Why isn't this moneybomb doing better?
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Maxed out here. Ron needs to attract new donors to the campaign. Nice to hear he is accepting debate preparations from Doug Wead-- this will help a great deal.
And by the way, no need to worry. Ron is a frontrunner. He will attract new donors by the very nature of the message itself.... it is just the delivery that needs a little massaging. Everything will be ok. Ron is on the path to the nomination, media blackout or not.
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The reason the money bombs aren't doing as well are two fold. One, Ron Paul hasn't hit any home runs in the debates. There are a lot of reasons for this, but it doesn't help that everyone is copying him. Ultimately he has to be the one to call people out and be brutally brunt. I realise this isn't his style, but it's do or die. Ron Paul needs to realize the urgency of him getting elected. I honestly don't believe any of the other candidates will repeal Obama Care and he has the most knowledge about the economy. He needs to focus on the importance of these two issues. The man is a doctor, an Austrian free market economist and a former Air Force Officer. These should all be no brainers for him, but he has failed to deliver because others are copying him, thus degrading his ability to stand out from the crowd. I hate to say it, but he does look like the crazy uncle a lot of times right now. He really needs to have some key points that he says no matter what each time he's asked a question. I think it would help if he always threw in something about the economy no matter what question he's asked.
The other problem is simply the grassroots. We aren't being aggressive enough and quite frankly I don't think you'll supporters coming out of the woodworks to donate their money until RP addresses my first point. Somehow, he has to figure out what's wrong. It's like he expects people to know his stance on issues since he ran in 2007. People who saw then might know who he is, but for most, they have no clue. He needs to talk like people are hearing him for the first time. I'm digressing though. We need to have viral marketing to go out on the internet. The "V for Vendetta" video was great last time, but we've had nothing of the sort this time.
The other problem is simply the grassroots. We aren't being aggressive enough and quite frankly I don't think you'll supporters coming out of the woodworks to donate their money until RP addresses my first point. Somehow, he has to figure out what's wrong. It's like he expects people to know his stance on issues since he ran in 2007. People who saw then might know who he is, but for most, they have no clue. He needs to talk like people are hearing him for the first time. I'm digressing though. We need to have viral marketing to go out on the internet. The "V for Vendetta" video was great last time, but we've had nothing of the sort this time.
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To the OP I don't think the 'superpac' setting its moneybomb for two days after Ron's kick off money bomb and in the middle of his end of quarter push helped. They are advertising THAT as the big one and NOT saying for those who maxxed out already. I think people who don't monitor it may be confused. Meanwhile Ron needs the money for his end of quarter numbers.
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Third Donation today. I think I've maxed now, or am damn close to it.
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We haven´t promoted it well enoug and the NAYSAYERS will destroy every activism....
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What is the average donation amount this time vs. Tea Party and 5th of November? I think back then, there was a lot of emphasis on donating "$100". I think the 5th of november website said what if 100,000 people donate 100 dollars on one day. Now people are just donating smaller amounts. That's just my hypothesis.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have a month to promote this? How much time do we need?
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I don't know what you're talking about regarding the debates. I've watched every single debate from 2007 until now and Ron Paul has been saying the exact same things. The problem is that he is getting very LITTLE TIME in the debates to talk, and the time he does get to talk, he's not asked any real questions!
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Now's not the time to put a damper on the Revolution PAC. To be perfectly honest, I trust the campaign to do what they think is best, but I trust Woods and those guys at Revolution PAC a lot more and I think they are more in touch with the grassroots and know how to promote him in an edgy and substantive way.
People didn´t do the job. I don´t know how much we need, why you ask me ?
But naysayers could shut up and let people do what they want to promote these MB´s!
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Didn't Paul get at least 1 million total votes in the 08 primaries?
Now we all know that his base of supporters has grown, so I'd assume he has at least a couple million supporters. Probably more, but lets just say its 2 million.
Of those 2 million, less than 15,000 have donated for the money bomb. This is much less 1%, and I have a feeling 2 million is a low estimate? If everyone gave just $5, we'd have ourselves a massive $10,000,000. I know some people are literally broke, but the overwhelming majority of Americans have $5 or more to spare, right?
Now we all know that his base of supporters has grown, so I'd assume he has at least a couple million supporters. Probably more, but lets just say its 2 million.
Of those 2 million, less than 15,000 have donated for the money bomb. This is much less 1%, and I have a feeling 2 million is a low estimate? If everyone gave just $5, we'd have ourselves a massive $10,000,000. I know some people are literally broke, but the overwhelming majority of Americans have $5 or more to spare, right?
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yeah let's just let you trample on other people's rights in the name of Ron Paul, lets do that! let's hear some more of your great ideas that actually shows what this movement is all about! let's go with your idea and copy videos and upload them on youtube 5 thousand times so we can get some attention! let's do that to promote the money bomb!
forget the fact the the word money bomb already appears on all ron paul videos and tons of people commenting on even non-RP videos. let's waste our time doing ineffective things.
there's a reason why you had to bump your idea 5 times before you had 2 people discussing it and then saying that it was a bad idea. let's just not use our head and blame other people because we can't understand and accept when our thoughts have gone off the deep end.
but I admire your enthusiasm and your willingness to do whatever it takes. Just be mindful of other people. Spam and words in big bold characters isn't the only way to get more attention.
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Didn't Paul get at least 1 million total votes in the 08 primaries?
Now we all know that his base of supporters has grown, so I'd assume he has at least a couple million supporters. Probably more, but lets just say its 2 million.
Of those 2 million, less than 15,000 have donated for the money bomb. This is much less 1%, and I have a feeling 2 million is a low estimate? If everyone gave just $5, we'd have ourselves a massive $10,000,000. I know some people are literally broke, but the overwhelming majority of Americans have $5 or more to spare, right?
Aside from the already stated fact that the economy is worse now and people simply do not have the resources to donate as much, back in 08 every money bomb was the last potential money bomb. Now, we have a money bomb almost every month, even as 2 more major ones are planned within a few weeks. People are pacing themselves. The good news is that the base is there and growing. The numbers are growing, and when the election heats up and the money bombs become even more significant, I think we will see numbers that will leave the last election in the dust.
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