Why girls get better grades

[loveableteddybear]

Or receptionists. Generally women have more of a helper personailty. They are less likely to see the big picture and run major organizations. And many of the women who do get that far, usually dont deserve it. For me, I would be cautious hiring a woman to a top level position. Especially a good looking woman.

I own a business (and also work for a large company) so I see both sides. Being my business is small, I simply would never hire a good looking woman to avoid destractions and to make my wife happy. If I were an absentee landlord, then sure, as long as she is the most competent at her position.

All I know is that in the company where I am now, I pump out more articles and edit more press releases and products than any other editor. Now, I do this while running a full time business. In fact, I'm posting here because I get the work done so much faster and my other employee just came in, so I don't have to work on the cars.

But, I know no woman that can do what I do as effectively, because they are not decisive and pragmatic decision makers, and don't like being pushed to perform.

The funny thing is too that women employers will push men more than women, instinctively knowing that men are made to work. It's incredibly unfair.

 

[CaptUSA]

I know, and the point is true. Those thoughts plague men, not just boys.

Lol, I've never been infected with such an enjoyable plague before.

 

[Slutter McGee]

There are always exceptions but male pity and female bonding is a big reason women move up in companies. Not their work. I have seen countless examples of this in my experience, and I have heard of other examples from friends too. One example in particular, a woman lost her job for being completely incompetent, then leaves a voicesmail with another manager crying for her job back. He gave her job back because he felt sorry for her and admitted that. A man cant cry for his job back and get it if he is incompetent.

And there is no such thing as a good ole boys network? Of course there is. Sounds like the man who fired her should have used a spine, something that so many men seem to lack these days.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[Slutter McGee]

But, I know no woman that can do what I do as effectively, because they are not decisive and pragmatic decision makers, and don't like being pushed to perform.

You know what, there might be no woman who can do what you do as effectively. But to base this fact on a gender bias when it is more likely the result of your hard work and knowledge base is downright silly.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[KingNothing]

All I know from my life working as an adult is that smart men are much harder working and better working than any female, period. Of course there are exceptions, but men are vastly superior. It's not even close.

I disagree with this. The top X-percent of female workers are absolutely no different than the top X-percent of male workers. I've noticed a difference between male and female workers at lower levels though, and it mostly has to do with perception than production --- the women tend to outwardly show and describe how overwhelmed they might be, and tend to be more reluctant to make a decision quickly to resolve an issue. From my perspective, this has done nothing to hamper their production. It only makes their own lives more stressful Other than that, I've seen virtually no difference in my field. With that said, it's a math and science profession which may weed-out women who do not show "masculine" mental traits, whatever they may be.

 

[KingNothing]

It's happening in college as well though...in the sciences and engineering.

Stuff where behavior and subjective stuff would be very very minimal.

Honestly, I don't really feel sorry for the males in this case. The system is not rigged against them, some of them just have a more limited attention span than their female counter parts, which is their own fault.

I've found that women generally care MUCH more about their grades and are willing to study more, attend class more regularly and do their homework. They tend to stress more about these things. My guess is that this explain why they get better classroom grades and lower standardized test scores. Whatever it is that makes them work harder, might also be causing them to do worse on the standardized tests.

 

[KingNothing]

I almost feel that men's pity has given many women an unrealistic view of their abilities in some departments.

Well, I think Bill Burr said it best:



"Women are just constantly patting themselves on the back, and no one corrects them on it because they want to **** 'em!"


I think, a lot of times, guys give women passes or tend to rate the productive capacity of a woman, on a different scale. Ultimately though, I don't think this is at play in large corporations and mostly impacts women in entertainment (commentators, media personalities, etc.).

 

[KingNothing]

What a bunch of bullshit. I am one of the least PC people on here, and I think you are full of it. Executive type jobs are generally dominated by men because men aren't hampered by maternal instincts ingrained in them through millions of years of evolution.

And there's another very important point --- likeability matters. People who get promoted not only show results, they're also individuals that people like to work with and be around. Rightly or wrongly, for whatever reason, men in positions of power tend (TEND!) to enjoy shooting the breeze and/or having a beer with another man. Because men are generally in positions of import, and because men generally prefer to hang out with other men, a situation is created in which men will tend to be promoted over women. This isn't true in all or even most cases, but it is something that I'm certain exists. And it may be entirely subconscious. Good ol' boys networks are not imaginary. They're VERY real.

 

[KingNothing]

I just think that the images are disrespectful.

Most of this thread, regardless of the images posted, fits that bill.

 

[opal]

Thats not the case in the real world. When actual work has to get done men outperform females. Plus from what I was told, engineering is dominated by men.

I'm going to have to wholeheartedly disagree here. This depends on the job and the individual. just one example for the moment - If you have a large move to complete.. women are much better packers.

JMHO - the two gender specific things out there are sperm donor and wet nurse

 

[acptulsa]

Well, the women with all the tits and ass hanging out. I just think that the images are disrespectful.

So, those images are disrespectful but saying that women are only good for producing babies and producing milk for said babies isn't?

This thread is full of fail. I just don't understand how I can come to a libertarian website and see a bunch of people saying, 'All _____ are ________.' Truth of the matter is certain individuals can do certain things very, very well. And you never seem to find and hire those individuals by saying, what I want is my preconceived hollywood image of a person who can do what I want done. You usually find those individuals by saying, well, I didn't expect a _______ to be good at this thing but this ________ is very good. Hired!

Yeah, the thread spots a trend and invites a discussion as to what it means. Well, whatever it means, I know what it doesn't mean. Fill in the blanks any way you want, but in a world of individuals it never adds up to, 'All _____ are _____.'

 

[acptulsa]

I'm going to have to wholeheartedly disagree here. This depends on the job and the individual. just one example for the moment - If you have a large move to complete.. women are much better packers.

There's a moving company around here called Two Guys and a Large Vehicle. They recently spawned a related company called something along the lines of Two Gals and a Roll of Box Tape. Something tells me that, if they grow, they'll both be Equal Opportunity Employers, if the right 'stereotype buster' were to come apply.

JMHO - the two gender specific things out there are sperm donor and wet nurse

I can't think of any others.

 

[tttppp]

I own a business (and also work for a large company) so I see both sides. Being my business is small, I simply would never hire a good looking woman to avoid destractions and to make my wife happy. If I were an absentee landlord, then sure, as long as she is the most competent at her position.

All I know is that in the company where I am now, I pump out more articles and edit more press releases and products than any other editor. Now, I do this while running a full time business. In fact, I'm posting here because I get the work done so much faster and my other employee just came in, so I don't have to work on the cars.

But, I know no woman that can do what I do as effectively, because they are not decisive and pragmatic decision makers, and don't like being pushed to perform.

The funny thing is too that women employers will push men more than women, instinctively knowing that men are made to work. It's incredibly unfair.

Thats another good point. Women are terrible decision makers and tend to make poor managers. Managers have to make everything black and white and get their feelings out of the way. Women tend to make everything in grey area and can never make decisive decisions. Plus they are afraid to make decisions that might upset someone. When you are a manager, you have to tell people how it is and what needs to get done. Another weakness of women.

Women managers are happy with their female employees just as long as they keep them company. I've worked for women who simply refused to have men work for them out of fear they might lose their job to them. Leaders need to have the confidence that their employees can't steal their job.

 

[tttppp]

And there's another very important point --- likeability matters. People who get promoted not only show results, they're also individuals that people like to work with and be around. Rightly or wrongly, for whatever reason, men in positions of power tend (TEND!) to enjoy shooting the breeze and/or having a beer with another man. Because men are generally in positions of import, and because men generally prefer to hang out with other men, a situation is created in which men will tend to be promoted over women. This isn't true in all or even most cases, but it is something that I'm certain exists. And it may be entirely subconscious. Good ol' boys networks are not imaginary. They're VERY real.

The good ole boys network is real but not as bad as a woman's network. Women generally do not like to work with men and are threatened by them. That is less likely when women work for men. Men are generally accepting of having women around, however having women around can ruin men's fun at work. If you add a woman to the mix, all the sudden you have to watch what you say to not upset the woman.

 

[loveableteddybear]

I'm going to have to wholeheartedly disagree here. This depends on the job and the individual. just one example for the moment - If you have a large move to complete.. women are much better packers.

JMHO - the two gender specific things out there are sperm donor and wet nurse

Maybe women are better packers, clothes designers, singers, mothers, receptionists...no one said women are less dignified than men. To a woman, men take work "too seriously." Maybe they're right. But work that tends to be important and expensive is usually better done by men, and BS stuff that strokes people's egos, like HR, maybe not as much.

 

[loveableteddybear]

The good ole boys network is real but not as bad as a woman's network. Women generally do not like to work with men and are threatened by them. That is less likely when women work for men. Men are generally accepting of having women around, however having women around can ruin men's fun at work. If you add a woman to the mix, all the sudden you have to watch what you say to not upset the woman.

There's a tipping point where women are in the position of leadership. All the men start disappearing. Especially gov't jobs where being any good doesn't even matter.

 

[loveableteddybear]

So, those images are disrespectful but saying that women are only good for producing babies and producing milk for said babies isn't?

This thread is full of fail. I just don't understand how I can come to a libertarian website and see a bunch of people saying, 'All _____ are ________.' Truth of the matter is certain individuals can do certain things very, very well. And you never seem to find and hire those individuals by saying, what I want is my preconceived hollywood image of a person who can do what I want done. You usually find those individuals by saying, well, I didn't expect a _______ to be good at this thing but this ________ is very good. Hired!

Yeah, the thread spots a trend and invites a discussion as to what it means. Well, whatever it means, I know what it doesn't mean. Fill in the blanks any way you want, but in a world of individuals it never adds up to, 'All _____ are _____.'

What's wrong with being a mom?

 

[KingNothing]

The good ole boys network is real but not as bad as a woman's network.

Woman's network? Lifetime? Yeah, that station does stink.

 

[juleswin]

So, those images are disrespectful but saying that women are only good for producing babies and producing milk for said babies isn't?

This thread is full of fail. I just don't understand how I can come to a libertarian website and see a bunch of people saying, 'All _____ are ________.' Truth of the matter is certain individuals can do certain things very, very well. And you never seem to find and hire those individuals by saying, what I want is my preconceived hollywood image of a person who can do what I want done. You usually find those individuals by saying, well, I didn't expect a _______ to be good at this thing but this ________ is very good. Hired!

Yeah, the thread spots a trend and invites a discussion as to what it means. Well, whatever it means, I know what it doesn't mean. Fill in the blanks any way you want, but in a world of individuals it never adds up to, 'All _____ are _____.'

To be fair, nobody is actually making the claim that ALL girls/women are XXXX. Its more like majority of girls are X and Y. I may think that men in general are better are mathematical courses than women, but in the 2 calculus classes I have taken, the women in it were among the top 3 in those classes. In one of my calc classes, we had only 3 women in a class of about 25 and 2 of those 3 women were in the top 3 in our class. So what does it mean? not sure but it sure tells me that there are a lot of women who do not my stereotype.

 

[KingNothing]

Women generally do not like to work with men and are threatened by them.


Men are generally accepting of having women around, however having women around can ruin men's fun at work. If you add a woman to the mix, all the sudden you have to watch what you say to not upset the woman.

The first part of this post is completely absurd, but I agree with the second part.