Why girls get better grades

[tttppp]

The first part of this post is completely absurd, but I agree with the second part.

I assure you thats not absurd. I speal only from experience. I started out think everyone was pretty much the same. Women have their own network at work where they gossip about everything, but men are rarely included even if you are at the same level. Plus I can think of countless instances where a female boss felt threatened by me and did everything they could to sabatoge my work. I have seen it with men too, but not as much.

 

[tttppp]

There's a tipping point where women are in the position of leadership. All the men start disappearing. Especially gov't jobs where being any good doesn't even matter.

Exactly, it happens at jobs where results dont matter. Then it becomes a matter of politic and gossip and who can play games the best.

 

[loveableteddybear]

What I want to know is if anyone here thinks that gender roles are not totally socialized. Because if they are not simply social constructs, there is definitely a lot to be said about how men and women work differently and are better at different things.

 

[Seraphim]

"Unsurprisingly, the boys who are smart enough to figure out the deck is stacked against them lose all respect for the system and opt out in varying degrees."

That was me.

 

[KingNothing]

"Unsurprisingly, the boys who are smart enough to figure out the deck is stacked against them lose all respect for the system and opt out in varying degrees."

That was me.

I realized school was nonsense at a very early age, but not that it was stacked against me. In fact, teachers had always liked me in school and I got great grades without ever having to apply myself. So much so that I had absolutely no respect for it by the time I was in college and never went to class, never did homework, and never studied. I showed up on test days and did just enough to pass. My lack of academic discipline in no way hampered my REAL work once I graduated and got a real job.


Looking back, I should have tried harder in college for no other reason than to achieve for achievement's sake. I don't think, however, that there were ANY females who approached school the same way I did. They all cared. A lot.

 

[Jingles]

Honestly, it has always been in my experience mostly guys in honors class, the high grade earners, and etc... Not saying that women can't succeed, or do well or anything, but this has been my experience. "let's take college level calc in 11th grade!" There were like 2 girls out of a class of 30something.

 

[KingNothing]

Honestly, it has always been in my experience mostly guys in honors class, the high grade earners, and etc... Not saying that women can't succeed, or do well or anything, but this has been my experience. "let's take college level calc in 11th grade!" There were like 2 girls out of a class of 30something.

True, but for whatever reason, math and science fields typically attract males. What were your honors english classes like?

 

[CaptUSA]

Honestly, it has always been in my experience mostly guys in honors class, the high grade earners, and etc... Not saying that women can't succeed, or do well or anything, but this has been my experience. "let's take college level calc in 11th grade!" There were like 2 girls out of a class of 30something.

And would you recognize that the guys in honors classes are generally the ones who are not so distracted by females? Goes back to me earlier points.

 

[UWDude]

True, but for whatever reason, math and science fields typically attract males. What were your honors english classes like?

At the UW, the girls outnumbered the boys in my calculus classes.

 

[dannno]

At the UW, the girls outnumbered the boys in my calculus classes.

Were they the Calculus A/B 1/2 classes required by most degrees, including Sociology? I went to a school that was about 60% female, but I think by the time I got to third level calculus the amount of girls dropped by at least half.

 

[UWDude]

Were they the Calculus A/B 1/2 classes required by most degrees, including Sociology? I went to a school that was about 60% female, but I think by the time I got to third level calculus the amount of girls dropped by at least half.

differential and integral calculus.

not required for most degrees.

 

[bolil]

I suppose some girls are smarter than me, and I am smarter than some girls. I no longer believe in a biological divide in matters of intelligence or ability. (some girls could whoop me good in a fight, and others I could whoop with ease).

 

[bolil]

I suppose some girls are smarter than me, and I am smarter than some girls. I no longer believe in a biological divide in matters of intelligence or ability. (some girls could whoop me good in a fight, and others I could whoop with ease). To me the girl/boy dichotomy is anti individual. Nature prescribed differences as regards reproduction but it seems those differences end there, as it seems to me.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

So, those images are disrespectful but saying that women are only good for producing babies and producing milk for said babies isn't?

This thread is full of fail. I just don't understand how I can come to a libertarian website and see a bunch of people saying, 'All _____ are ________.' Truth of the matter is certain individuals can do certain things very, very well. And you never seem to find and hire those individuals by saying, what I want is my preconceived hollywood image of a person who can do what I want done. You usually find those individuals by saying, well, I didn't expect a _______ to be good at this thing but this ________ is very good. Hired!

Yeah, the thread spots a trend and invites a discussion as to what it means. Well, whatever it means, I know what it doesn't mean. Fill in the blanks any way you want, but in a world of individuals it never adds up to, 'All _____ are _____.'

This isn't a libertarian site. It's conservative/conservatarian/republican. Which is unfortunate because its namesake is libertarian.

 

[KrokHead]

Why girls get better grades

Without backing my argument with evidence, girls have an intellectual advantage until they start going after boys. Which is stupid because it isn't like a boy will go after her first.

 

[loveableteddybear]

Without backing my argument with evidence, girls have an intellectual advantage until they start going after boys. Which is stupid because it isn't like a boy will go after her first.

Krok, do girls work as hard as boys though?

 

[KrokHead]

I think they don't because they don't have to. In societies where men are lazy degenerates women work multiple jobs and all that stuff. Though I don't think a woman will work until they practically drop dead like some men do. I guess it's like the mentality that men are more likely to kill themselves with dangerous behaviors and or drugs.

I think most "negative" female behaviors are learned, due to them not being corrected and usually encouraged.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Thats another good point. Women are terrible decision makers and tend to make poor managers. Managers have to make everything black and white and get their feelings out of the way. Women tend to make everything in grey area and can never make decisive decisions. Plus they are afraid to make decisions that might upset someone. When you are a manager, you have to tell people how it is and what needs to get done. Another weakness of women.

Women managers are happy with their female employees just as long as they keep them company. I've worked for women who simply refused to have men work for them out of fear they might lose their job to them. Leaders need to have the confidence that their employees can't steal their job.

Are you always this collectivist, or do you just love being sexist?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Are you always this collectivist, or do you just love being sexist?

It's more stereotyping than collectivizing on his part.

 

[tttppp]

Are you always this collectivist, or do you just love being sexist?

I think you missed the part where I didnt start out with these ideas. This is only based on personal experience. If these female managers wanted to give women a good name as managers, they could have. But they chose to feel threatened and did what they could to sabatoge my work. This is not my opinion, this is what actually happenned. Maybe that just happenned to me, but it did happen.

Additionally the female managers I have worked with demonstrated an inability to make decisions and manage effectively without their feelings. Again, personal experience and not much of my opinion. They just didnt get the job done.