Why aren't we all members of the Free State Project?

tremendoustie said:
I don't think most freestaters have ever been on the FTL BBS.
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That's certainly true. If I were to guess, most FSP participants have never been on a single internet forum in their lifetime. But anyway, most of the people in the NH liberty movement aren't even FSPers.

And incase anyone forgot, as I previously stated, even though NH is one of the least religious places in the US (along with VT and perhaps other states), the vast majority of both the general population and those involved with the liberty community are christians in NH.

Ian and I are both quakers, which is a sub-section of christianity. Although, eastern US quakerism is so welcoming that it welcomes non-christians into the religion, as such, I doubt Ian is a christian. Also, Mark, Sam and Dale, three other FTL co-hosts are also quakers. Of course, FTL is in no way the FSP. In the overall FSP picture, FTL is just a tiny, tiny sub-section of the FSP community.
 
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Time to set Free State Project - West in Hawaii.

:) Hawaii has 1.2 million people, 42nd in the nation, even fewer than New Hampshire.

:) Hawaii has many islands liberty lovers could occupy, make their own Liberty Cities and Liberty Counties.

:) Hawaii is a tropical paradise.

:) Hawaii is far away from outsiders what wanna tell us how to run our gubment, and it has an institution of tourists for weather (from America, and the rest of the world), as well as a significant number of Japanese tourists annually who visit for the relatively lax laws.

;) Yeah, the laws suck, I mean they are baaaaaaad. But New Hampshire has laws that suck too, and I'll use the same excuse, when we all get there, we can change 'em.
 
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Promontorium said:
Time to set Free State Project - West in Hawaii.

:) Hawaii has 1.2 million people, 42nd in the nation, even fewer than New Hampshire.

:) Hawaii has many islands liberty lovers could occupy, make their own Liberty Cities and Liberty Counties.

:) Hawaii is a tropical paradise.

:) Hawaii is far away from outsiders what wanna tell us how to run our gubment, and it has an institution of tourists for weather (from America, and the rest of the world), as well as a significant number of Japanese tourists annually who visit for the relatively lax laws.

;) Yeah, the laws suck, I mean they are baaaaaaad. But New Hampshire has laws that suck too, and I'll use the same excuse, when we all get there, we can change 'em.
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I was in Hawaii (for the first time) two years ago and I saw a lot of "Ron Paul" signs there...
 
randolphfuller said:
New Hampshire is just too cold for most Americans even to consider.
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We're not focusing on most Americans, just liberty lovers. Ya know, those of us that woulda sucked it up at Valley Forge instead of running to their cozy spot. If the weather is the main focus of your life, then best of luck to ya. Btw, the weather in NH isn't even that bad. It snowed like 3 times last year in the lower half of the state. I could understand career or family issues with moving but crying about the weather just shows me you're a wuss, assuming that there are no health issues at stake.
 
shemdogg said:
too may boston libbys movin to nh cause its cheaper. when they get there they vote for big govt
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NH Republicans now have a super, veto proof, majority in both the house and senate. My rep is on the same budget committee as myself and I get to talk to him a lot. He said there is about only 12 to 15 RINOs. Most are fiscal conservatives and many are Ron Paul republicans.

They are getting ready to amend the NH constitution and a whole mess of other things in the first year. It is a time for liberty in New Hampshire.

Progressives literally are shitting bricks.
 
I applaud your optimism IT. I know I'm late to the conversation, but is it not less feasible to live in NH should the SHTF than say, Texas? Or nevada? Or New Mexico? Someplace warm?
 
I guess the saying is "Would you wear a jacket for Liberty?" and I can see that y'all have done a good job winning back the legislature, but are there not a lot of disaffected, dissacociated people who moved there? Normal people tend to have normal jobs and such, can't just pick up and move. So is there a higher ratio of social ineptitude? Not to be rude, I'm legitimately curious.
 
FSP-Rebel said:
We're not focusing on most Americans, just liberty lovers. Ya know, those of us that woulda sucked it up at Valley Forge instead of running to their cozy spot. If the weather is the main focus of your life, then best of luck to ya. Btw, the weather in NH isn't even that bad. It snowed like 3 times last year in the lower half of the state. I could understand career or family issues with moving but crying about the weather just shows me you're a wuss, assuming that there are no health issues at stake.
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How kind of you to slip that in at the end, after you spent the rest of the post predictably saying that the weather isn't really a good enough reason for why someone wants to live where they do :rolleyes:

None of these people have said weather is the main focus of their life. None. It is, however, a pretty big factor for many people when they are deciding where they are going to live.
 
P@Riot said:
I applaud your optimism IT. I know I'm late to the conversation, but is it not less feasible to live in NH should the SHTF than say, Texas? Or nevada? Or New Mexico? Someplace warm?
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I see advantages in being farther north. Sure, it might get a little colder in winter, but that helps keep out the riff-raff in a SHTF situation.

Having been through Texas and New Mexico, I would think those would be horrible places to be when the SHTF. Water is pretty dang important. Nevada? Forget about it unless you can afford to fund a large water infrastructure. (Of course this might be just as much of a blind assumption about the actual on-the-ground situation as many people have about NH.)

Plus there's a great community growing here in NH. The natives seem more entrepreneurial and more self sufficient than elsewhere. May of us Free Staters are into self sufficiency and yet are social about it.

I hope the people that won't come to NH because of the weather will consider other options like seasteading.
 
Hows about someone monetizes this endevor? Set something up where it would literally pay to move to NH. Be it low level like paying for someone to come for a specific job, or set up a community that could invest in newcomers.

Tough sell to many otherwise, you're seeing the veracity of rational choice. To leave a home, family, a job, for what? A hope? What if I get to NH and I find out the job situation sucks, no one will hire me, they all call me "outsider" and I end up broke on the streets wondering what the hell I came for? The great migrations of old held promise of fertile and open land. NH is just a neighborhood you want us to invade. I can't plant a flag on your yard. I gotta bend my life to NH's ways to live there.

Day 3 I'd be walking through some quiet NH town, and the Sheriff would pick me up and drive me to the outskirts. But I'd want to see if there were any jobs available, and he'd arrest me for trying to walk back. The deputies would humiliate me, mock my military service, and then they'd rough me up. Draw first blood.
 
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