White House hints at crackdown on recreational marijuana

[UWDude]

Again the people UNDER Trump are attacking medical marijuana!

I missed the story. Has a medical dispensary been raided? Has a recreational shop in one of the legal states been raided?

In other words....

...proof?

 

[pcosmar]

The Maryland psychiatric researchers state that Cannabis cause schizophrenia in teens, so in adults. I agree with them. Surely war on drugs is the waste of money, but drugs must be kept illegal.

I have no more faith in Maryland psychiatric researchers than I do Sydney Gottlieb .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry

Political abuse of psychiatry is the misuse of psychiatry, including diagnosis, detention, and treatment, for the purposes of obstructing the human rights of individuals and/or groups in a society.

Psychiatry possesses a built-in capacity for abuse that is greater than in other areas of medicine

^that said^
I am sure the Maryland psychiatric researchers are full of decomposing excrement.

 

[dannno]

The Maryland psychiatric researchers state that Cannabis cause schizophrenia in teens, so in adults. I agree with them. Surely war on drugs is the waste of money, but drugs must be kept illegal.

That is an incorrect conclusion based on the data.

The data shows that ALL types of substance abuse, including alcohol, precede major schizophrenic episodes. It's funny how they only focus on cannabis. However, that does not mean they CAUSE those episodes. The assumption is that the person does not have schizophrenia until they have a major episode. This is totally false. What happens is the initial symptoms of schizophrenia cause people to seek substances to abuse in order to quell the symptoms. They can choose any number of substances, it doesn't matter, the point is that substance abuse is a symptom of schizophrenia, substance abuse does not cause a person to have schizophrenia.

There are actually scientists and organizations that have come out to admit that cannabis does not cause a normal person to be schizophrenic, but that it may hasten the symptoms in someone who already has it. I believe that is an incorrect conclusion, but it is closer to the truth than what you are spouting.

 

[Ender]

That is an incorrect conclusion based on the data.

The data shows that ALL types of substance abuse, including alcohol, precede major schizophrenic episodes. It's funny how they only focus on cannabis. However, that does not mean they CAUSE those episodes. The assumption is that the person does not have schizophrenia until they have a major episode. This is totally false. What happens is the initial symptoms of schizophrenia cause people to seek substances to abuse in order to quell the symptoms. They can choose any number of substances, it doesn't matter, the point is that substance abuse is a symptom of schizophrenia, substance abuse does not cause a person to have schizophrenia.

There are actually scientists and organizations that have come out to admit that cannabis does not cause a normal person to be schizophrenic, but that it may hasten the symptoms in someone who already has it. I believe that is an incorrect conclusion, but it is closer to the truth than what you are spouting.

Yep- I have a bi-polar friend in Oregon that says cannabis actually helps his condition.

 

[Chomp]

That is an incorrect conclusion based on the data.

The data shows that ALL types of substance abuse, including alcohol, precede major schizophrenic episodes. It's funny how they only focus on cannabis. However, that does not mean they CAUSE those episodes. The assumption is that the person does not have schizophrenia until they have a major episode. This is totally false. What happens is the initial symptoms of schizophrenia cause people to seek substances to abuse in order to quell the symptoms. They can choose any number of substances, it doesn't matter, the point is that substance abuse is a symptom of schizophrenia, substance abuse does not cause a person to have schizophrenia.

There are actually scientists and organizations that have come out to admit that cannabis does not cause a normal person to be schizophrenic, but that it may hasten the symptoms in someone who already has it. I believe that is an incorrect conclusion, but it is closer to the truth than what you are spouting.

I agree, those are junk scientists inventing lies for political cases. How about consuming too much caffeine ? Caffeine is a narcotic, if it used in large doses, like in very strong tea and coffee. Also, Coke and Pepsi are caffeinated and kids drink them which turn them mad. So, the Liberal can start war on coffee, tea, and sodas by setting over adult ages 21 or 25 ? If it happens, we live in absurd nation.

 

[pcosmar]

So, the Liberal can start war on coffee, tea, and sodas by setting over adult ages 21 or 25 ? If it happens, we live in absurd nation.

Why not? They did it with Tobacco.

Can't even have a cigarette with a beer anymore.

 

[Chomp]

Why not? They did it with Tobacco.

Can't even have a cigarette with a beer anymore.

Yep. In libtarded California, Hawaii, NYC and by cities. Go outside these places where tobacco 18+, buy, and smuggle cigs. Black market among 18-21 now in those places. NYC did the experiment in one café as the owner raised drinking from 21 to 25, in order to pacify clients. This was a private law. But the government likely to adopt it. We got many Libtards in both parties, mostly Democrats, who are thirsty for these new law.
Patrick Henry did right quote, " Give me Liberty or give me death ! " Yes, now, give us death.

 

[Ender]

I agree, those are junk scientists inventing lies for political cases. How about consuming too much caffeine ? Caffeine is a narcotic, if it used in large doses, like in very strong tea and coffee. Also, Coke and Pepsi are caffeinated and kids drink them which turn them mad. So, the Liberal can start war on coffee, tea, and sodas by setting over adult ages 21 or 25 ? If it happens, we live in absurd nation.

Actually, it's recently been discovered that up to 6 cups of coffee (natural) a day has strong health benefits.

 

[Chomp]

Actually, it's recently been discovered that up to 6 cups of coffee (natural) a day has strong health benefits.

Yes, they do. I forgot to mention the energy drinks. They are about to be attacked by the liberals.

 

[osan]

Did the Press Secretary miss Donald Trump saying that he was ok with cannabis in states where it is legal?

I haven't heard Trump himself say anything about enforcing federal cannabis laws in states where it is legal.

If they do start that shit, I will be the first one out protesting, but call me skeptical.

I can hardly believe Trump thinks this narrowly. Were I in his position, my press secretary would have leave only to deliver my precisely composed speak on any point. More importantly, anything important would come to the world from my own mouth. I might not even have a press secretary.

 

[phill4paul]

I can hardly believe Trump thinks this narrowly. Were I in his position, my press secretary would have leave only to deliver my precisely composed speak on any point. More importantly, anything important would come to the world from my own mouth. I might not even have a press secretary.

By doing this he can float trial balloons to see which way the wind is blowing. He always has deniability and can say Spicer misspoke.

 

[osan]

By doing this he can float trial balloons to see which way the wind is blowing. He always has deniability and can say Spicer misspoke.

This is such a rank method. It is dishonest to a fault and smacks of fear. If Trump is so big on communicating with Americans, then why not do it right? "Here's my idea on <X>, please discuss rationally and get back to me with your VALID criticisms. That eliminates the "you're a cocksucker and should kill yourself" responses, as well as the "I am yours to command, Obi Don", which would comprise about 99% of the transactions. The other 1% can be looked at and scanned for reason.

I hope you're wrong on this point because it would be very disappointing. It doesn't track with the image Trump has cultivated over the past year+. That, of course, doesn't mean he isn't doing it, but I hope he isn't.

 

[UWDude]

By doing this he can float trial balloons to see which way the wind is blowing. He always has deniability and can say Spicer misspoke.

And which way is the wind blowing on weed?
Populism, figure it out.

 

[jmdrake]

Dannno, you have put your brain in neutral and you are ignoring whatever doesn't support your worldview. Again the people UNDER Trump are attacking medical marijuana! It doesn't fvcking matter if Trump hasn't "flip flopped" on the issue if he has not stopped the people under him from attacking medical marijuana!

LOL. A stupid trumpkin just neg repped me saying this was "claims without proof". (And no it wasn't Dannno.) The proof is in the OP. Someone under Trump is attacking medical marijuana.

It's ironic and sad that offline I find myself defending the Trump administration from the over the top criticisms of liberal friends but here I find sycophants that suck up to Trump so much that they make the liberals look like geniuses.

 

[jmdrake]

And which way is the wind blowing on weed?
Populism, figure it out.

Get over yourself and your fake leader. Trump might support medical marijuana (not sure) but he's not reigning in his surrogates who are on the attack.

 

[jmdrake]

By doing this he can float trial balloons to see which way the wind is blowing. He always has deniability and can say Spicer misspoke.

 

[jmdrake]

I missed the story. Has a medical dispensary been raided? Has a recreational shop in one of the legal states been raided?

In other words....

...proof?

Do you not read the original post in this thread? Good grief man you can't be that stupid! The original post in this thread is Trump's press secretary talking about greater enforcement of anti marijuana laws. If this had been Hillary's press secretary saying "We're going to start raiding gun shows" would you be so caviler about it? And this isn't the first thread with proof of a pot crackdown from Trump. You had this thread where a Trump surrogate threatened a marijuana festival on an Indian reservation.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-in-Las-Vegas&highlight=reservation+marijuana

From that article:

U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden, based in Las Vegas, sent a Feb. 16 letter to the Moapa Paiute Tribe reminding the tribe that the transport, possession, use and distribution of marijuana is illegal under federal law. The marijuana trade show and festival, planned for March 4 and 5, would be in violation of that law, according to the letter obtained by the Reno Gazette-Journal.

"I am informed that the tribal council is moving forward with the planned marijuana event referred to as the 2017 High Times Cannabis Cup because it is under the impression that the so-called 'Cole Memorandum' and subsequent memoranda from the Department of Justice permit marijuana use, possession and distribution on tribal lands when the state law also permits it. Unfortunately, this is an incorrect interpretation of the Department's position on this issue."

So there's your proof. Whether you are intelligent enough to understand it I don't know.

 

[UWDude]

Get over yourself

Please expound further what you mean by this.

I missed the story. Has a medical dispensary been raided? Has a recreational shop in one of the legal states been raided?

In other words....

...proof?

Do you not read the original post in this thread? Good grief man you can't be that stupid! The original post in this thread is Trump's press secretary talking about greater enforcement of anti marijuana laws. If this had been Hillary's press secretary saying "We're going to start raiding gun shows" would you be so caviler about it? And this isn't the first thread with proof of a pot crackdown from Trump. You had this thread where a Trump surrogate threatened a marijuana festival on an Indian reservation.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-in-Las-Vegas&highlight=reservation+marijuana

From that article:

U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden, based in Las Vegas, sent a Feb. 16 letter to the Moapa Paiute Tribe reminding the tribe that the transport, possession, use and distribution of marijuana is illegal under federal law. The marijuana trade show and festival, planned for March 4 and 5, would be in violation of that law, according to the letter obtained by the Reno Gazette-Journal.

"I am informed that the tribal council is moving forward with the planned marijuana event referred to as the 2017 High Times Cannabis Cup because it is under the impression that the so-called 'Cole Memorandum' and subsequent memoranda from the Department of Justice permit marijuana use, possession and distribution on tribal lands when the state law also permits it. Unfortunately, this is an incorrect interpretation of the Department's position on this issue."

So there's your proof. Whether you are intelligent enough to understand it I don't know.

That was a long winded way of saying, "no, no dispensaries or legal shops have been raided"

BTW, March 4th and 5th have passed. (Whether you are intelligent enough to understand it I don't know.) Was the cannabis Cup raided?


Aww, an he send me a widdle neg wep because he just got pwned.

Feel that rage, boy? That's called cognitive dissonance.

 

[pcosmar]

And which way is the wind blowing on weed?
Populism, figure it out.

And that is the danger.

The man has no principles. and that makes him dangerous to everyone.

The tide is changing on cannabis and it would be politically stupid to oppose the tide.

someone always wants to build a wall. (tide wall?)

 

[UWDude]

And that is the danger.