White House hints at crackdown on recreational marijuana

Actions speak louder than words.

Watch his feet, not his mouth.

I'm usually the first to agree with you on the actions>words thing but Spicer's presser question was staged, as if to purposefully inject this topic back into discussion. Prison stocks shot up on the news so someone is taking it seriously. When the feds promise to raise drug ("drug" in the case of mj) enforcement they're telling the truth.

Jeff Sessions says if Americans don’t want him to enforce marijuana laws, they should change them

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/je...juana-laws-they-should-change-them-2017-01-11

As if the people have any real say over federal code. Sessions knows that is a joke.

I'm starting to think that instead of Obama's "governance by crisis" style, Trump is going to a "governance by confusion" style.
 
Last edited:
States rights, like the bathrooms.

:confused:

...choices/responsibilities to grow, ingest, etc., 'god's seed-bearing plants' are left to 'the individual' in a decent, just society...certainly not the goddamned 'state' or 'feds' [all stinking republicrats]....

...stop using the ignorant republicrat 'state vs. fed,' 'legalization vs. criminalization,' etc., rhetoric/memes...just more fake republicrat dichotomies...as most/all the time the best answer is 'individual rights'...not 'state rights' or 'fed rights' [btw, state/fed 'rights' are an example of 'the fallacy of reification'...'states' and 'the fed' are concepts/labels...concepts/labels don't have 'rights'...only real living people have 'rights']
 
Last edited:
:confused:

...choices to grow, ingest, etc., 'god's seed-bearing plants' are left to 'the individual' in a decent, just society...certainly not the goddamned 'state' or 'feds' [stinking republicrats]....

...stop using the goddamned fool republicrat 'state vs. fed,' 'legalization vs. criminalization,' etc., rhetoric/memes...just more fake republicrat dichotomies...

I agree of course, just being pragmatic like the good dr. More easy for trump cucks to understand.
 
On the news I was listening to, the 'muh states rights bathrooms' story came immediately after a 'ICE is deputizing every police officer in the nation as a federal immigration enforcement agent' story. #MAGA


Are you saying Trump cucksuckers are hypocrites when they support states rights for the bathroom issue and then not for other issues? I think you might be on to something. It's like Rand says, he will support trump when he supports conservative principles, but not when he's a flaming liberal. The blind allegiance to an authoritarian leader is what really makes me worry the trump cucksuckers are all flaming liberals.
 
Are you saying Trump cucksuckers are hypocrites when they support states rights for the bathroom issue and then not for other issues? I think you might be on to something. It's like Rand says, he will support trump when he supports conservative principles, but not when he's a flaming liberal.
It's a long-running hypocrisy that predates Trump, but it's far more blatant among the ranks of the Trumpkins. 'States rights:' Bathrooms - yes, sate-sponsored corporatism - yes, sanctuary cities - no, marijuana - no, trade - no... and so on.
 
It's a long-running hypocrisy that predates Trump, but it's far more blatant among the ranks of the Trumpkins. 'States rights:' Bathrooms - yes, sate-sponsored corporatism - yes, sanctuary cities - no, marijuana - no, trade - no... and so on.

hmmm tell me more, as I try my best to imitate gene wilder from your avatar.
 
vcUsnuV.png
 
Last edited:
Trump to States with Recreational Pot: Drop Dead

...

Spicer justifies this with the well-worn claim often made by Conservatives that "There is still a federal law that we need to abide by ... when it comes to recreational marijuana and other drugs of that nature."

At the core of this statement is the same hypocrisy that infects the entire right wing on the Drug War issue.

Conservatives like to talk a good game about states's rights and local control when it comes to issues like gun laws and Obamacare, but federalism and the Constitution go right out the window on the drug issue.

This has long been obvious, and was solidified in federal court when Trump's nominee to head the EPA, Scott Pruitt, sued Colorado in federal court when he was attorney general of Oklahoma. Pruitt and the GOP attorney general from Nebraska both attempted to get the federal court to render Colorado's drug laws null and void — which would have essentially destroyed what's left of federalism and states's rights down to its foundations. Pruitt, however, was making this same argument at the very same time he was arguing that the states had the right to override Obamacare mandates.

But the hypocrisy does not stop there. Conservatives love to talk about following the "original intent" of the US Constitution and demanding the federal government do nothing that is not authorized by the Constitution. That, of course, is then conveniently forgotten on the drug issue.

Although Sean Spicer certainly won't admit it, the "federal law we need to abide by" is not some federal statute passed by Congress about drugs. The law we need to abide by is found in the US Constitution — specifically the Tenth Amendment — where it clearly states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

So does the Constitution delegate to the United States government the power to regulate what sort of plants people eat, smoke, or grow? Here's a hint: No, it doesn't.

This refrain of Drug Warriors that those who don't like the Drug War need to "change the law" before they can complain requires a willful ignorance of the law contained in the US Constitution itself.

Indeed, in more honest times, everyone knew the Constitution did not allow federal control of such matters which is why most everyone accepted that a Constitutional amendment was necessary to authorize federal prohibition of alcohol. It was only later that politicians realized they could just forget about all that Constitution stuff and pass federal statutes banning various substances at will.

...
https://mises.org/blog/trump-states-recreational-pot-drop-dead
 
congress has to remove mj from schedule one....end of story.

it will be a tough road if the FEDS exert any push back on the legalized States like Washington, of which now boasts a 1 billion dollar industry.

this won't go anywhere.
 
congress has to remove mj from schedule one....end of story.

it will be a tough road if the FEDS exert any push back on the legalized States like Washington, of which now boasts a 1 billion dollar industry.

this won't go anywhere.

It will be watched. along with all the other doubletalk. (some of which I don't like)

Is this just a hot air balloon?

Not enough dust has settled to see where it lands.
When it does,, we will have a better idea of the law of the land.
 
congress has to remove mj from schedule one....end of story.

it will be a tough road if the FEDS exert any push back on the legalized States like Washington, of which now boasts a 1 billion dollar industry.

this won't go anywhere.

How do you feel about the underlying principle of such politics?
 
the same way that when i learned i had to get a job and feed myself.

In your mind working to survive is an equivalent principle to the federal government telling individuals what they should do with their own bodies? I don't see it, because in nature if you don't work to eat you starve and die, but if the government leaves us alone everything gets better. Care to elaborate on your theories?
 
In your mind working to survive is an equivalent principle to the federal government telling individuals what they should do with their own bodies? I don't see it, because in nature if you don't work to eat you starve and die, but if the government leaves us alone everything gets better. Care to elaborate on your theories?

there's ALWAYS going to be government, or kings, tribal chiefs, etc.

goodluck in whatever utopia you manage to build...this planet ain't big enough to just 'disappear'...can it be done?...the yukon is not far away...lots of game and gold.
 
Back
Top