White House hints at crackdown on recreational marijuana

[afwjam]

there's ALWAYS going to be government, or kings, tribal chiefs, etc.

goodluck in whatever utopia you manage to build...this planet ain't big enough to just 'disappear'...can it be done?...the yukon is not far away...lots of game and gold.

I lived in the arctic for two years, I still needed to eat, but the lack of federal enforcement of what I put in my body did not seem to be a problem. Why does the supposed requirement of government existence justify our government in telling us what to do with our bodies. It was was not the governments business when it was founded, why should it be now? Because the government exists? Or because you want to kick people out of the country and will blindly support a leader on anything as long as he says that?

 

[JK/SEA]

I lived in the arctic for two years, I still needed to eat, but the lack of federal enforcement of what I put in my body did not seem to be a problem. Why does the supposed requirement of government existence justify our government in telling us what to do with our bodies. It was was not the governments business when it was founded, why should it be now? Because the government exists? Or because you want to kick people out of the country and will blindly support a leader on anything as long as he says that?

kick people out of the country?...kind of a simplistic statement, but no matter. The point is, this is what we have now in this life plane. Short of an asteroid killing 75% of the worlds population, nothing will really change in regards to the fact there is always going to be people who want to control everything. Resistance is healthy, and does get some results for changes, but...still, we will always be either master or slave. At least we have a choice...lol....

 

[afwjam]

kick people out of the country?...kind of a simplistic statement, but no matter. The point is, this is what we have now in this life plane. Short of an asteroid killing 75% of the worlds population, nothing will really change in regards to the fact there is always going to be people who want to control everything. Resistance is healthy, and does get some results for changes, but...still, we will always be either master or slave. At least we have a choice...lol....

Makes sense. You don't believe in individual Liberty, why do you come to this forum?

 

[CaseyJones]

Here is a NORML form letter quick link to congress supporting H.R. 975

http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/51046/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=19997

 

[Peace Piper]

If only someone could point out to Trump or Sessions

that the Feds HOLD A PATENT ON THE MAIN INGREDIENT IN CANNABIS the "war" on the most useful plant on the planet would be over instantly.

Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

United States Patent 6,630,507
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)

Abstract

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia...http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

Oh look- here's ANOTHER one:

Use of cannabinoids as anti-inflammatory agents #6,410,588
Assignee: The Mathilda and Terence Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology (London, GB)
Yissum Research and Development Company of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Jerulasem, IL)

Abstract

The application relates to the identification that cannabinoids, such as cannabidiol can be used to treat inflammatory diseases. Cannabinoids for use in treating inflammatory diseases, methods of treating inflammatory diseases and cannabinoids in combination with pharmaceutically acceptable carriers are claimed...http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6410588

27 other cannabis related patents and applications for patents http://hempoil.com/us-patent-6630507-cannabinoids/

It's about money and control

 

[Mach]

A Trump supporter lays down the law......

 

[jmdrake]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GunnyFreedom again.

 

[jmdrake]

Did the Press Secretary miss Donald Trump saying that he was ok with cannabis in states where it is legal?

I haven't heard Trump himself say anything about enforcing federal cannabis laws in states where it is legal.

If they do start that $#@!, I will be the first one out protesting, but call me skeptical.

Good grief Dannno! For a 9/11 truther you are super gullible when it comes to Trump. Have you never heard of the term "trial balloon?" Trump takes both sides on almost every issue imaginable, tosses up trial balloons and then basis his policy on the way the wind blows. Trump is supposed to be this great manager right? What does a great manager do when an official spokesperson for his company actually goes off script.

 

[osan]

Has Trump hisownself made any explicit statements on his views? If not, he ought to. Getting is second hand is bullshit, and slinging the "gateway drug" lies does his credibility no favors. If those are his true views, then shame and fie upon him. Otherwise, he needs a new press secretary. Badly.

I cannot quite wrap my head around this. Trump is no dummy, and yet there is this. What is amiss here?

I'm getting a sense of copping-out with saying that enforcement is "a question for the Department of Justice."

OTOH, he could be doing it right, if you think about it. "Policy" should not determine enforcement. Either a statute or law is enforced consistently, or it should be given the heave-ho. Perhaps if he allows Justice to go ape-crazy, the backlash will be sufficient to spur Congress to act. It gets him off the hook and relieves him of acting in capacities not specified in the Constitution. I know that is a bit much for which to hope, but it is not quite far-fetched. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Sessions is a lunatic where the drug thing is concerned. If I heard him speaking about *****s the way he does about drugs, I would be well inclined to view him as a closet case. One can only wonder if there is something going on like that below the surface because he really does seem to protest a bit too strongly, saying impossibly stupid things... "good people don't smoke marriage-000-wanna". For a guy who supposed took the Klan to its knees, I cannot quite fathom why he holds such nitwitish views on this. I am all for people not doing drugs and I agree that many are highly destructive. It is not, however, any man's place to define crimes mala prohibita for any reason whatsoever, no matter how noble sound the reasons. If Sessions has so much all-fired love of the Constitution, he should cut the shit and get with the rational program. To listen to him speak about marriage-000-wanna, one would think he man a complete imbecile.

I am hoping Trump has a really clever and righteous strategy behind some of these seemingly questionable cabinet appointments. For once in my life I would like to see some significant good come out of an administration, rather than that which culminated in the Obammy tenure. This crap is gotten impossibly boring.

 

[dannno]

Has Trump hisownself made any explicit statements on his views?

Uh, yes, like I said, he said medical cannabis should DEFINITELY be legal. He said cannabis should be legal in states where it is legal.

Very simple.

 

[dannno]

Good grief Dannno! For a 9/11 truther you are super gullible when it comes to Trump. Have you never heard of the term "trial balloon?" Trump takes both sides on almost every issue imaginable, tosses up trial balloons and then basis his policy on the way the wind blows. Trump is supposed to be this great manager right? What does a great manager do when an official spokesperson for his company actually goes off script.

When has Trump flip flopped on cannabis? Never. In the 90s he supported ending the war on drugs altogether. Now he supports escalating the war on drugs, largely by ensuring that drugs don't go across our borders. But he said he 100% supports medical cannabis, and he said he supported cannabis legalization in states that decide to do so. I have never heard him take an opposing view on cannabis specifically.

Read my post again, you are basing his stance on something his Press Secretary said, but wasn't very specific about, and then ultimately said they didn't know and forwarded the question to the Dept of Justice or something.

 

[UWDude]

Has Trump hisownself made any explicit statements on his views?

He has said medical should be legal, and recreational should be up to the states, multiple times.

 

[osan]

Uh, yes, like I said, he said medical cannabis should DEFINITELY be legal. He said cannabis should be legal in states where it is legal.

Very simple.

So then help my shriveled intellect grasp the other statements about "getting tough" and all that. I must be hopelessly bereft of smarts because I can't tell what's what anymore - who's telling truth v. lies and bull-dinky.

PS: This is yet another reason I am not yet ready to render judgment on Trump. The press hates him with bitter passion, which if we are to grant that what we see isn't 100% theater, must indicate SOMETHING worthy in the man.

 

[dannno]

So then help my shriveled intellect grasp the other statements about "getting tough" and all that. I must be hopelessly bereft of smarts because I can't tell what's what anymore - who's telling truth v. lies and bull-dinky.

When he talks about being tough on the war on drugs, he is more referring to not letting them cross the border. I mean, I'm sure they will still do a lot of the stuff all the other administrations did, but as far as cracking down he usually talks about stopping the drugs from crossing the border.

 

[osan]

When he talks about being tough on the war on drugs, he is more referring to not letting them cross the border. I mean, I'm sure they will still do a lot of the stuff all the other administrations did, but as far as cracking down he usually talks about stopping the drugs from crossing the border.

OK, so then once again media and certain people here are mischaracterizing his words and positions.

Gee, how shocking.

 

[CPUd]

There are some really bad hombres, when they aren't bringing the drugs, they're doing the raping.

 

[UWDude]

There are some really bad hombres, when they aren't bringing the drugs, they're doing the raping.

Wait a minute? He said that? Oh, fuck, better start hoarding up on this legal Washington gorilla glue.

 

[shakey1]

The proof is in the putting on this issue. Lack of clarity has been the only constant in this administration so far.

 

[Chomp]

The Maryland psychiatric researchers state that Cannabis cause schizophrenia in teens, so in adults. I agree with them. Surely war on drugs is the waste of money, but drugs must be kept illegal.

 

[jmdrake]

When has Trump flip flopped on cannabis? Never. In the 90s he supported ending the war on drugs altogether. Now he supports escalating the war on drugs, largely by ensuring that drugs don't go across our borders. But he said he 100% supports medical cannabis, and he said he supported cannabis legalization in states that decide to do so. I have never heard him take an opposing view on cannabis specifically.

Read my post again, you are basing his stance on something his Press Secretary said, but wasn't very specific about, and then ultimately said they didn't know and forwarded the question to the Dept of Justice or something.

Dannno, you have put your brain in neutral and you are ignoring whatever doesn't support your worldview. Again the people UNDER Trump are attacking medical marijuana! It doesn't fvcking matter if Trump hasn't "flip flopped" on the issue if he has not stopped the people under him from attacking medical marijuana!