What killed the transgender movement?

[jmdrake]

Who did AF vote for? Hell, he gets almost as whiny as Swordy when people don't wag our tails when Trump throws us a bone. And if you don't care what I think, then...?

You know what. At this point I'm not even sure WHAT you think on this subject? Here's my very clear position. I don't think that trans-women should have more rights to bare their tits around kids than cisgender women. Do you agree or disagree? I don't think kids, straight or gay, trans or cis, should be sexualized. Do you agree or disagree? I think it's perfectly fine for someone to discuss the cultural phenomenon of backlash THAT HAS HAPPENED AT THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL without being accused of secretly or naively supporting the re-election of Trump. At this point the 2024 election is history. And history should be looked at through an objective lens. And objectively, if Trump hadn't even existed the backlash would have still happened because the assumptions that were being pushed were not based on facts but rather were part of an agenda.

As far as not caring what you think, I'm not allowed to be ambivalent about ANYTHING you say? I agree with you and @PAF on a lot. I just think you're both wrong here. Trump rode the trans backlash. He didn't create it. And no, I don't think the "powers that be" were dependent upon a conservative backlash. They want the world's population ultimately reduced to 500 million people. One way to get there is to get people to "voluntarily" sterilize themselves before even becoming adults. State sanctioned suicide is also being pushed by the same people. I recall this story from last year:

Physically healthy Dutch woman, 28, decides to be euthanized due to crippling depression

She is just one of the growing number of people in the West who have decided to die rather than continue living in pain that, unlike a terminal illness, could be treated.

nypost.com

You can't imagine how much HATE I get in the comments section of stories that covered that woman simply because I said she really shouldn't kill herself. How DARE I say ANYTHING NEGATIVE about someone literally deciding to kill herself! I didn't say the government should stop her. I didn't ask for new laws to be passed. (This wasn't even my country). I just said I didn't think it was a good idea. Sometimes "tyranny" comes from the people claiming to be fighting against it. The "tyranny" that says "You can't have an opinion because it might promote tyranny."

My analysis comparing Mussolini and Trump is fundamentally flawed because Mussolini is kind of like Trump? Well, "flaw" or not, I don't mind owning it.

The problem is you don't seem to understand HOW Trump and Mussolini are similar.

 

[acptulsa]

You know what. At this point I'm not even sure WHAT you think on this subject? Here's my very clear position. I don't think that trans-women should have more rights to bare their tits around kids than cisgender women. Do you agree or disagree? I don't think kids, straight or gay, trans or cis, should be sexualized. Do you agree or disagree?

I'm still waiting for their parents to be charged with abusing them.

I think it's perfectly fine for someone to discuss the cultural phenomenon of backlash THAT HAS HAPPENED AT THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL without being accused of secretly or naively supporting the re-election of Trump. At this point the 2024 election is history. And history should be looked at through an objective lens. And objectively, if Trump hadn't even existed the backlash would have still happened because the assumptions that were being pushed were not based on facts but rather were part of an agenda.

Trump was that agenda. Seriously.

Consider: Dubya did his song and dance for eight years trying to get Republicans behind a war with Iran, and failed. McCain ran on the Iran War Platform and didn't get anywhere near the Oval Office. But after they stole America's Trumpy Bear away, then gave it back after four years of crying, Trump could get away with bomb bomb bombing Iran.

As far as not caring what you think, I'm not allowed to be ambivalent about ANYTHING you say? I agree with you and @PAF on a lot. I just think you're both wrong here. Trump rode the trans backlash. He didn't create it. And no, I don't think the "powers that be" were dependent upon a conservative backlash.

I disagree. I think the whole thing was engineered, together with Covid, which was implemented by Trump but the disposable senile demented guy wound up taking all the blame and the fall.

But you don't have to agree, no.

They want the world's population ultimately reduced to 500 million people. One way to get there is to get people to "voluntarily" sterilize themselves before even becoming adults. State sanctioned suicide is also being pushed by the same people. I recall this story from last year:

You can't imagine how much HATE I get in the comments section of stories that covered that woman simply because I said she really shouldn't kill herself. How DARE I say ANYTHING NEGATIVE about someone literally deciding to kill herself! I didn't say the government should stop her. I didn't ask for new laws to be passed. (This wasn't even my country). I just said I didn't think it was a good idea. Sometimes "tyranny" comes from the people claiming to be fighting against it. The "tyranny" that says "You can't have an opinion because it might promote tyranny."

Well, what do you expect the troll chorus to be paid to say about it?

The problem is you don't seem to understand HOW Trump and Mussolini are similar.

Maybe. Or maybe you don't understand HOW similar they really are. You seem to be saying that the powers that be aren't capable of running a twelve year, multinational, multifaceted psyop of this nature -- not even after studying the hundred year old example of the highly successful Biennio Rosso. I say that the deep state depends on people underestimating them in that very manner.

Again I say, the transgender butchery and abuse ended when Trump was reinstalled because that's when it was scheduled to end. And I'm not swayed by the Georgia Guidestones. Hell, that mRNA experiment is still killing us off wholesale. They still have bombs and missiles. When it comes to culling us, trust me, they have other eggs in other baskets. They were never solely dependent on this one sterilization program to get down to half a million.

 

[jmdrake]

There were better candidates sitting them out. Who was the better candidate put up by the LP? It was going to be Dave Smith, but he sat it out. They made the greater evil so incredibly evil that people stuck to the Official Lesser Evil like super glue.

And the people who perpetrated all that crap got just what they wanted. Just what they were after. That does not put me in a good mood. Certainly not in a good enough mood to put up with being libeled by the people who obliged those evil asses.

But it's all good. To even imply that my disdain for the Deep State "solution" and the bandwagon they built to put it over somehow means that I approve of the intolerable acts used as a provocation, or that I don't approve of the righteously indignant reaction, is the kind of @Swordsmyth-style binary non-thinking that I really don't believe you're capable of. Thanks for letting me clear the air with a rant.

I need to address this specifically because it shows what's really wrong with your "analysis." I want to make sure I understand. You think the reason why there were so few GOP primary challengers to Trump is because of the trans issue? That...that's your argument? You think Dave Smith didn't try to seek the LP nomination because of the trans issue? Seriously? Ron Desantis got NO TRACTION in the 2024 GOP primary and the trans issue was HIS issue. No matter what happened, in 2024 Trump was going to be the GOP nominee. Why? Because most Republicans thought the 2020 election was stolen from him and they wanted a rematch, that's why. January 6th didn't happen because of trans issues. It happened over allegations of a stolen election.

 

[acptulsa]

You think the reason why there were so few GOP primary challengers to Trump is because of the trans issue?

Do you think the reason so many people took part in the mRNA Experiment was because of runny noses?

Or could it be because of chest congestion and pneumonia and ventilators and mass firings and propaganda and peer pressure and fearmongering and severe winters of illness and death and runny noses?

How do you separate one aspect of a psyop that size from all the rest?

How do you separate one aspect of a psyop that big from all the rest?

No matter what happened, in 2024 Trump was going to be the GOP nominee. Why? Because most Republicans thought the 2020 election was stolen from him and they wanted a rematch, that's why.

Um, sure. Certainly could be true. But without the rest of it, without the Biden Administration Quadrennio Rosso, does Trump carry enough momentum and "political capital" into office to get away with the perennially unpopular act of bomb bomb bombing Iran (just to name one example)? Without the Biden Administration Quadrennio Rosso ingredients of Soros neutering DAs and MSF importing aliens in caravans, does Trump get away with federalizing police departments?

They didn't have to steal the election in 2020. So why did they? Why were Republicans set up to want a rematch (and remember, Democrats literally saw their other primary candidates driven from the race even if they had to be driven from the party, so don't tell me this rematch was just a coincidence)? They didn't just want Trump to have a second term, they wanted him to have a supercharged second term, with a Republican base so tickled about it that they question nothing he does.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm still waiting for their parents to be charged with abusing them.

Waiting as in hoping they'll be charged? I'm not a fan of the criminal just us system at all. My hope is that people just realize on their own that taking your kids to a trans titty bar isn't a good idea.

Trump was that agenda. Seriously.

Consider: Dubya did his song and dance for eight years trying to get Republicans behind a war with Iran, and failed. McCain ran on the Iran War Platform and didn't get anywhere near the Oval Office. But after they stole America's Trumpy Bear away, then gave it back after four years of crying, Trump could get away with bomb bomb bombing Iran.

Dubya, before he even got elected president, wanted to go after Saddam for (allegedly) putting out a hit on his dad. Trump on the other hand was pushing a PRO LGBT (this was before the Q) agenda in 2016 (Peter Thiel introduced Trump and Peter is gay), had turned SLIGHTLY against the transgenders by trying to remove the Obama protections for trans healthcare in 2019 and Trump got backlash for it, then went in full bore in 2024 (sorry for the rhyme) after polls made it abundantly clear it was a winning issue for him. He didn't create the backlash and the backlash wasn't created for him. He rode the wave. You're acting like the Zionists and neocons didn't already have Biden and Harris in their pocket. I love a good conspiracy theory, but the idea that Obama started pushing things too far and Biden later went even further just to cause a conservative backlash so that Trump could continue doing what they were already doing is bat guano crazy.

I disagree. I think the whole thing was engineered, together with Covid, which was implemented by Trump but the disposable senile demented guy wound up taking all the blame and the fall.

You're giving Trump too much credit. COVID was being perfected in the lab before Trump became president. Trump went along for the ride. Yes, Trump was certainly in or it as shown by Blackrock giving Trump the economic recovery plan for COVID in 2019 and bragging about it on their website. But Blackrock has its hands in everybody's pocket. On the bioweapon side, Dr. Fauci's fingerprints are all over both the creation of the pathogen and the "vaccine." And yet the left still goes out of its way to defend Fauci at all costs.

But you don't have to agree, no.

Well, what do you expect the troll chorus to be paid to say about it?

Maybe. Or maybe you don't understand HOW similar they really are. You seem to be saying that the powers that be aren't capable of running a twelve year, multinational, multifaceted psyop of this nature -- not even after studying the hundred year old example of the highly successful Biennio Rosso. I say that the deep state depends on people underestimating them in that very manner.

Quite the contrary. I think you OVERESTIMATE YOUR OWN ABILITY to decipher the "twelve year, multinational, multifaceted psyop." I don't think Trump was ever the goal. Just a useful idiot that could be used as a pressure valve when needed. If you haven't figured it out yet, AIPAC controls both sides which means the SAME thing would be going on with respect to Israel and Gaza regardless of who had won the 2024 election.

Again I say, the transgender butchery and abuse ended when Trump was reinstalled because that's when it was scheduled to end. And I'm not swayed by the Georgia Guidestones. Hell, that mRNA experiment is still killing us off wholesale. They still have bombs and missiles. When it comes to culling us, trust me, they have other eggs in other baskets. They were never solely dependent on this one sterilization program to get down to half a million.

I never said there was only one method to cull the population. I said getting people to sterilize themselves and now even EUTHANIZE themselves is a PART of that agenda. The brakes on "transgender butchery" was already being applied before the 2024 election and it was happening in Europe. Now if you believe TPTB control "everything", then that means that Ron Paul and Rand Paul being elected to federal office must have been "engineered" too. Maybe it was. Or maybe TPTB aren't all powerful and sometimes they lose a battle. Some may argue that Israel being indicted for war crimes is the work of TPTB. I don't think so, but you're free to believe whatever you wish.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Sorry, but I'm with @Anti Federalist on this one and I don't care what you, or @PAF or @acptulsa think about it. If the American people decide they want to do away with all decency rules and even go so far as to say "Hey Lil'Tay. You don't have to wait until your 18 to start your OnlyFans. You can start it at 13 because there's a market for it as shown by all of the men who pre-ordered your show." Because clearly Lil'Tay's parents must be loving to let her pimp herself out like that." then the American people will decide it. I really do not care. Rape your child in the name of liberty. I do not care. But be HONEST about it. (You are NOT honest). If kids aren't allowed in topless bars with cisgender women then they should be allowed in topless bars with trans women. I mean the trans community keeps telling everybody that "women are women" right? And if we're going to INSIST that trans people should be able to do EVERYTHING in front of children, then stop discriminating against cisgender women and let them do lap dances at 12 year old birthday parties too.

Happy to report that NH has banned trans surgeries and hormonal "therapy" for minor children.

I voted for this and worked with my local GOP state reps to make sure this passed.

 

[acptulsa]

You're giving Trump too much credit. COVID was being perfected in the lab before Trump became president. Trump went along for the ride.

I never said Trump engineered this psyop.

I don't think Trump was ever the goal. Just a useful idiot that could be used as a pressure valve when needed.

I think the truth is in between. Trump is just a useful idiot, yes, but he's not just any useful idiot. That's like saying Katherine Hepburn was just an actress. Trump is one damned effective useful idiot.

If you haven't figured it out yet, AIPAC controls both sides which means the SAME thing would be going on with respect to Israel and Gaza regardless of who had won the 2024 election.

Doesn't mean Biden could ever have been as useful to them as Trump is right now. You seem to be saying Biden could have gotten away with bombing Iran just as easily as Trump just did. I will never believe that.

Or maybe TPTB aren't all powerful and sometimes they lose a battle.

Sure they do. But they're winning the war.

The difference between Trump 45 and Trump 47 is Trump 47 can get away with murder in a way that Trump 45 could not. Tell me why that couldn't possibly have been done on purpose. Tell me why you believe that TPTB, even with the hundred year old example of the Biennio Rosso to build on, couldn't possibly have engineered this to a purpose. Tell me what psychological phenomenon came into play in the last nine years that wasn't already known and understood.

I say you underestimate the enemy. You don't have to believe it, but you'd be damned hard pressed to disprove it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Who did AF vote for? Hell, he gets almost as whiny as Swordy when people don't wag our tails when Trump throws us a bone. And if you don't care what I think, then...?

Wasn't that you in the other thread complaining about "no adult conversations"?

Now you're bitching again and calling me "whiny".

You know goddamned well who I voted for, but for the record: I wrote in Ron Paul from 2008 to 2020.

In 2024 I voted Trump.

I'll let the people decide if my support is lukewarm or slavering.

 

[acptulsa]

Now you're bitching again and calling me "whiny".

Well? Aren't you? Right now, even?

"Anything bad Trump does is bad and anything good Trump does is bad". As if you call Swordy out because everything good Trump does is good and everything bad Trump does is good.

You want to have an adult conversation? Fine. Remember 2016? Remember starting out with seventeen candidates, just as though they looked at the ratings of The Apprentice and figured out Trump would start out at 7%, which needed the other 93% cut sixteen ways to call him "frontrunner"? Remember how every other candidate was asked about Trump every time they were interviewed? Remember Trump circumventing equal time regulations with phone interviews? Who else ever got a phone interview in the 65 year history of Meet the Press?

This is your outsider? I thought the outsider was He Who Must Not Be Named...

Remember Guiliani flat blowing the 2020 recount?

Remember Trump vowing to get to the bottom of Butler?

I have a coherent theory which explains every single one of these anomalies and many more. What have you got?

I'll let the people decide if my support is lukewarm or slavering.

I don't care what the temperature of it might be. I want to know if there's any logic behind it.

Remember when you didn't believe what really happened on 9/11 really happened because it was too unprecedented to grasp? I do. I remember the first time I heard the truth, from a coworker well versed in construction on 9/13/01. That was too soon for me. I couldn't accept it yet.

Don't rule out the possibility that you'll be where I am before you know it.

 

[jmdrake]

I never said Trump engineered this psyop.

Okay.

I think the truth is in between. Trump is just a useful idiot, yes, but he's not just any useful idiot. That's like saying Katherine Hepburn was just an actress. Trump is one damned effective useful idiot.

I don't think Trump would have gotten away with taking 400 million in COVID money and giving it to Alabama to build prisons after running on a platform of "de-fund the police." Different idiots are useful for different things. I don't think Trump would have gotten away with prosecuting black people for going to the UN to speak against genocide against Africans in America and around the world based on the false claim that they were "Russian agents" either.

Doesn't mean Biden could ever have been as useful to them as Trump is right now. You seem to be saying Biden could have gotten away with bombing Iran just as easily as Trump just did. I will never believe that.

Biden was plenty useful. See above.

Sure they do. But they're winning the war.

The difference between Trump 45 and Trump 47 is Trump 47 can get away with murder in a way that Trump 45 could not. Tell me why that couldn't possibly have been done on purpose. Tell me why you believe that TPTB, even with the hundred year old example of the Biennio Rosso to build on, couldn't possibly have engineered this to a purpose. Tell me what psychological phenomenon came into play in the last nine years that wasn't already known and understood.

We shall see how much he can get away with after the 2026 midterms. The Democrats don't even have the votes to contemplate, let alone implement, impeachment. Trump is in his second term. In Obama's second term he got away with bombing a doctor's without boarders hospital. Obama got away with the murder of Anwar Al Awlawki in his FIRST term. Same with Obama turning the prosperous nation of Libya into an open air slave market. (That happened in 2011). How did Obama accomplish all of that without attacking trans people?

I say you underestimate the enemy. You don't have to believe it, but you'd be damned hard pressed to disprove it.

And you can't convince SwordSmyth that Trump isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan either so what's your point? I can point out the logical problems with your argument, and there are many, and you can move the goal posts. So what?

 

[jmdrake]

Well? Aren't you? Right now, even?

"Anything bad Trump does is bad and anything good Trump does is bad". As if you call Swordy out because everything good Trump does is good and everything bad Trump does is good.

You want to have an adult conversation? Fine. Remember 2016? Remember starting out with seventeen candidates, just as though they looked at the ratings of The Apprentice and figured out Trump would start out at 7%, which needed the other 93% cut sixteen ways to call him "frontrunner"? Remember how every other candidate was asked about Trump every time they were interviewed? Remember Trump circumventing equal time regulations with phone interviews? Who else ever got a phone interview in the 65 year history of Meet the Press?

This is your outsider? I thought the outsider was He Who Must Not Be Named...

Remember Guiliani flat blowing the 2020 recount?

Remember Trump vowing to get to the bottom of Butler?

I have a coherent theory which explains every single one of these anomalies and many more. What have you got?



I don't care what the temperature of it might be. I want to know if there's any logic behind it.

Remember when you didn't believe what really happened on 9/11 really happened because it was too unprecedented to grasp? I do. I remember the first time I heard the truth, from a coworker well versed in construction on 9/13/01. That was too soon for me. I couldn't accept it yet.

Don't rule out the possibility that you'll be where I am before you know it.

Here's where your "theory of everything" breaks down. You've underestimated the effect of losing the 2020 election had on Trump supporters. Trump was GUARANTEED the 2024 nomination by December 2020. Trans backlash or no trans backlash Trump was destined to be the 2024 GOP nominee.

 

[acptulsa]

Biden was plenty useful.

Sure. Any Democrat president is. Democrats react differently, so their presidents are somewhat more interchangeable, IMO. You don't have to stir the Democrat demographic up as much to get them to abandon their principles, probably because they don't have all that many principles. What ones they do have, like environment good, don't mean so much because so many of them are stupid and gullible enough to believe (to cite a recent example) trees should be cut down and buried because their decades of life converting CO2 to oxygen is undone by a few months of emitting methane when they die.

I can point out the logical problems with your argument, and there are many, and you can move the goal posts.

I don't think I've been moving goalposts. This thread will be here. Take your time and distill it down to core arguments, and get back to me. I don't mind kicking it around.

 

[acptulsa]

You've underestimated the effect of losing the 2020 election had on Trump supporters.

How do you figure? I was talking about 2016 in the post you quoted. In 2016 Trumpy Bear was just one of seventeen teddies on the store shelf. He hadn't spent four years on Republicans' pillow yet, only to be rudely snatched away.

No, I haven't said one thing to diminish the psychology of that. As I recall, what I said was "They didn't just want Trump to have a second term, they wanted him to have a supercharged second term, with a Republican base so tickled about it that they question nothing he does", and "The difference between Trump 45 and Trump 47 is Trump 47 can get away with murder in a way that Trump 45 could not."

 

[jmdrake]

Sure. Any Democrat president is. Democrats react differently, so their presidents are somewhat more interchangeable, IMO. You don't have to stir the Democrat demographic up as much to get them to abandon their principles, probably because they don't have all that many principles. What ones they do have, like environment good, don't mean so much because so many of them are stupid and gullible enough to believe (to cite a recent example) trees should be cut down and buried because their decades of life converting CO2 to oxygen is undone by a few months of emitting methane when they die.

Except...in 2024 a lot black voters stayed home. THAT is a big reason why Trump is president.





BLM called out the democratic party for not having a primary in 2024 and called out Biden / Harris for the way they funded mass incarceration.

Black Lives Matter Attacks Democratic Party for ‘Anointing’ Kamala Harris without Primary Votes | National Review

The left-wing group demanded that the DNC host a virtual snap primary, extending nomination privileges to voters.

www.nationalreview.com

Movement for Black Lives Responds to Biden’s Plan to Allow Cities to Use Federal Stimulus Money to Increase Funding for Police Departments - M4BL

m4bl.org

There is a new generation of black activists who are NOT beholden to the Democratic party.

I don't think I've been moving goalposts. This thread will be here. Take your time and distill it down to core arguments, and get back to me. I don't mind kicking it around.

Okay.

 

[jmdrake]

How do you figure? I was talking about 2016 in the post you quoted. In 2016 Trumpy Bear was just one of seventeen teddies on the store shelf. He hadn't spent four years on Republicans' pillow yet, only to be rudely snatched away.

No, I haven't said one thing to diminish the psychology of that. As I recall, what I said was "They didn't just want Trump to have a second term, they wanted him to have a supercharged second term, with a Republican base so tickled about it that they question nothing he does", and "The difference between Trump 45 and Trump 47 is Trump 47 can get away with murder in a way that Trump 45 could not."

Simple. Early on in this thread you attributed the "transgender backlash" (the actual subject of this thread) to why Trump didn't have much competition in the primaries. I'm saying that argument is complete and total nonsense.

 

[jmdrake]

While I agree that this thing is international in scope, I think at least partly (they love to kill two birds with one stone) it's part of the psyop that swept Trump back into office. A lot of things happened designed to fearmonger people into not paying much attention to the better candidates in the GOP primaries.

^This is what I'm talking about. The trans backlash has NOTHING to do with why Trump didn't have a lot of 2024 primary competition.

 

[acptulsa]

Except...in 2024 a lot black voters stayed home. THAT is a big reason why Trump is president.

BLM called out the democratic party for not having a primary in 2024 and called out Biden / Harris for the way they funded mass incarceration.

There is a new generation of black activists who are NOT beholden to the Democratic party.

That's all true. I already mentioned the fact that they destroyed the Democratic primary process in their zeal to stage the rematch. That almost backfired on them because they couldn't pull off hiding or downplaying Biden's dementia. It went beyond another reason to vote for Trump and turned into a referendum on why they were running an incompetent -- insistently.

They got around that by insisting with equal fervor on his equally incompetent and equally unlikeable VP. None of that is suspicious to you? How does it disprove my theory?

Simple. Early on in this thread you attributed the "transgender backlash" (the actual subject of this thread) to why Trump didn't have much competition in the primaries. I'm saying that argument is complete and total nonsense.

^This is what I'm talking about. The trans backlash has NOTHING to do with why Trump didn't have a lot of 2024 primary competition.

I'll have to go back and look to see exactly what you're referring to, since you didn't quote it. I find quoting things useful because that way I can reaffirm I didn't misread it the first time.

But, to repeat, I can't separate all these ingredients which make up this soup. The transgender movement ended suddenly because its purpose was served as soon as Trump's landslide was in the books. The caravans ended suddenly for the exact same reason. Electric car mandates ended suddenly at the exact same time for the exact same reason. All these things contributed to Trump not having a lot of primary competition because everyone was desperate to coalesce around some Republican and his supporters were rabid about a rematch. I'm sorry if I misspoke and said anything different, I don't remember doing so. We were never intended to be dissatisfied with Trump because he refused to throw us any bones. This conversation has grown to encompass more than the transgender butchery. Maybe @Occam's Banana should split it, I don't know or care. But I can't measure how much effect each of these ingredients had compared to the rest.

 

[jmdrake]

That's all true. I already mentioned the fact that they destroyed the Democratic primary process in their zeal to stage the rematch. That almost backfired on them because they couldn't pull off hiding or downplaying Biden's dementia. It went beyond another reason to vote for Trump and turned into a referendum on why they were running an incompetent -- insistently.

They got around that by insisting with equal fervor his equally incompetent and equally unlikeable VP. None of that is suspicious to you? How does it disprove my theory?

Your theory, that the transgender backlash kept Trump from having significant primary opposition, is already dis-proven by your admission (I think) that Trump was already set to be the GOP nominee in 2024 based on America's love for a "re-match" when they think one opponent has been "robbed." Look at boxing or MMA or even the fake drama that is pro wrestling. If a crowd favorite gets a bad call and loses the belt, a rematch is easy to sell on pay per view.

But I wasn't addressing your grand theory. I was addressing the idea that the Democratic base is unquestionably loyal. That's changing.

 

[acptulsa]

Your theory, that the transgender backlash kept Trump from having significant primary opposition

For the seventh time, you don't get it.

Since you refuse to quote whatever I said that got stuck in your mind, let me go back and see if I can figure it out. But I'm telling you that all I remember saying is that the transgender business ended because its main purpose was to help carry Trump through the 2024 landslide and give people a profound sense of relief to get him back.

 

[acptulsa]

And all I can find is this:

Psychiatry was and is a form of eugenics, where the poor get sentenced to mental disorders, and population control, where thoughtcriminals get "cured" from their hate for Big Brother.

All in the quest to make everybody experience the joy of doublethink (where we see no problem with the notion that a born male is really a female trapped in a male body or something)...

Post in thread 'Psychiatry for population control'

Jun 7, 2021

It must be the wet dream of these eugenics psychopaths to have sadistic psychiatrists sentence promising poor kids to ADHD, drug them senseless with amphetamines (ritalin)... and there you have the proof that the low classes are "inferior" to the elite.

Wouldn't you want to know that our modern day "Brave new world" psychiatry was founded on the principles of the eugenics movement, in a nice collaboration between the German Nazis and the Anglo-American allied "heroes"?!?


In the 1860s, British capital got John D. Rockefeller started in the oil business.
The Rockefeller Foundation funded...

• Firestarter

Both you and @PAF make the mistake of thinking this has ANYTHING to do with Trump. It doesn't. Trump isn't king of the world. (Thank God!) Several European countries had started making the transition (no pun intended) away from gender affirming care for minors before Trump made transgenders a campaign issue. In fact the first American I really saw push back on this was DEMOCRATIC comedian Bill Mahr.

While I agree that this thing is international in scope, I think at least partly (they love to kill two birds with one stone) it's part of the psyop that swept Trump back into office. A lot of things happened designed to fearmonger people into not paying much attention to the better candidates in the GOP primaries.

I think you have me confused with someone else. I never tried to attribute the failure of DeSantis, Ramaswamy et al to any one issue. I also don't believe the trans controversy was intended to serve only that purpose.

is already dis-proven by your admission (I think) that Trump was already set to be the GOP nominee in 2024 based on America's love for a "re-match" when they think one opponent has been "robbed."

It takes a lot of voters to build a landslide. What I distinctly remember saying is they engineered it by combining the Trumpy Bear fans and those people who were scared to death of what the crazy assed Democrats were going to do next. Coalesce or be overrun while your son is being surgically butchered and a few other horrible things besides was the message.