What killed the transgender movement?

But I wasn't addressing your grand theory. I was addressing the idea that the Democratic base is unquestionably loyal. That's changing.

Yes it is, thank God. That's what had me convinced they have big plans for this Trump 47 term. They really trashed the DNC's credibility. It's like they considered the Democratic Party as disposable as the LP. I think they really burned out a bearing. They shot the moon for this, and the DNC might never recover fully.
 
For the seventh time, you don't get it.

Since you refuse to quote whatever I said that got stuck in your mind, let me go back and see if I can figure it out. But I'm telling you that all I remember saying is that the transgender business ended because its main purpose was to help carry Trump through the 2024 landslide and give people a profound sense of relief to get him back.
What the hell? I quoted what you said twice. Here it is the third time.

"While I agree that this thing is international in scope, I think at least partly (they love to kill two birds with one stone) it's part of the psyop that swept Trump back into office. A lot of things happened designed to fearmonger people into not paying much attention to the better candidates in the GOP primaries."

There were NOT any better candidates in the 2024 GOP primaries! And there weren't any because after the January 6th insurrection, and yes I call it that regardless of how "politically incorrect" it is to say that on this forum, no serious GOP contender would DARE challenge Trump for the throne. That said, I have spent enough time arguing with you about this for today. You can have the last word as long as you don't misrepresent what I said. Again, I have now quoted your own words to you THREE TIMES about your claim that SOMEHOW this "transgender business" (your words) was somehow designed to "fearmonger people into paying much attention to better candidates in the GOP primaries."
 
I think you have me confused with someone else. I never tried to attribute the failure of DeSantis, Ramaswamy et al to any one issue. I also don't believe the trans controversy was intended to serve only that purpose.

I object to the term "serve only that purpose" when it actually ran COUNTER to that purpose. (Undermining Desantis). That would be like saying someone is eating junk food in order to lose weight.
It takes a lot of voters to build a landslide. What I distinctly remember saying is they engineered it by combining the Trumpy Bear fans and those people who were scared to death of what the crazy assed Democrats were going to do next. Coalesce or be overrun while your son is being surgically butchered and a few other horrible things besides was the message.
Yes it is, thank God. That's what had me convinced they have big plans for this Trump 47 term. They really trashed the DNC's credibility. It's like they considered the Democratic Party as disposable as the LP. I think they really burned out a bearing. They shot the moon for this, and the DNC might never recover fully.
Yeah....I don't think you watched the videos I posted. It wasn't about black people who were "scared to death about what the crazy assed Democrats were going to do next." It was about black people being pissed at what the LAZY ASSED DEMOCRATS were NOT willing to do for black people while doing something for everybody else. One of the first things Biden/Harris got passed was an ASIAN hate crimes bill. They can't do a damn thing for black people but they can pass an ASIAN hate crimes bill. It's like Trump forcing Columbia University to pay reparations to Zionists.
 
I object to the term "serve only that purpose" when it actually ran COUNTER to that purpose. (Undermining Desantis).

But it did, by making Republicans afraid not to seek a coalition which could beat the Democrats by a sufficiently obviously overwhelming margin to make them "afraid to steal the election" (I know that was a big selling point at that time because I remember Swordy talking about it every damned day). And the rematch faction provided that.

DeSantis himself is pretty irrelevant to that aspect of it because whether his position was superior to Trump's or not, Trump was sufficiently opposed.

Yeah....I don't think you watched the videos I posted. It wasn't about black people who were "scared to death about what the crazy assed Democrats were going to do next." It was about black people being pissed at what the LAZY ASSED DEMOCRATS were NOT willing to do for black people while doing something for everybody else.

I didn't need to repeat those facts. I was talking about more factions that they were feeding into the landslide, not arguing about the ones you already mentioned.

It's like Trump forcing Columbia University to pay reparations to Zionists.

It isn't the first time the GOP forgot all about black people once the election was over. If only we could all get the care and loving attention Zionists get. But who else can afford to buy it? We're all too busy paying taxes to pool that kind of bribe money.
 
Last edited:
But it did, by making Republicans afraid not to seek a coalition which could beat the Democrats by a sufficiently obviously overwhelming margin to make them "afraid to steal the election" (I know that was a big selling point at that time because I remember Swordy talking about it every damned day). And the rematch faction provided that.

DeSantis himself is pretty irrelevant to that aspect of it because whether his position was superior to Trump's or not, Trump was sufficiently opposed.

I'm not sure what any of ^that has to do with this thread at all. And I guess that's my point. The transgender issue was a factor in Trump ultimately beating Harris. It had no bearing whatsoever in the primaries. If it was going to help anybody it would have helped Desantis, but it didn't.

I didn't need to repeat those facts. I was talking about more factions that they were feeding into the landslide, not arguing about the ones you already mentioned.



It isn't the first time the GOP forgot all about black people once the election was over. If only we could all get the care and loving attention Zionists get. But who else can afford to buy it? We're all too busy paying taxes to pool that kind of bribe money.
Blacks actually got more from Trump the first time when a smaller percentage voted for him. The Platinum Plan was the closest thing any president in recent memory has ever come to a reparations proposal. I have no idea why he wasn't even asked about it in 2024. (Actually I do but it's depressing).
 
I'm not sure what any of ^that has to do with this thread at all.

It goes to what killed the "transgender movement". Starvation killed it. Once the election psyop was done, nobody fed it any more, because that phase of the psyop was over.

It's like I keep telling @Swordsmyth. If you want to end one of these psyops, don't mount a frontal attack. Just turn off its money tap.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PAF
It goes to what killed the "transgender movement". Starvation killed it. Once the election psyop was done, nobody fed it any more, because that phase of the psyop was over.

It's like I keep telling @Swordsmyth. If you want to end one of these psyops, don't mount a frontal attack. Just turn off its money tap.
I was specifically referring to you talking about the desire to make democrats "afraid to steal the election." That's got nothing to do with this thread. But okay.
 
You mean like the "loving mom" who basically pimped out her son to do drag shows at a gay bar for money and was later shown on video with an adult transwoman on a couch saying it was good to do ketamine which is a date rape drug?
“Pimped out”?!? For performing at some show (not nude…)?!?
The kid wasn’t forced by its parents, was it?!? So I strongly disagree if this would be a motive for stealing this disturbed kid from its loving parents.

The only exceptions to this I see, is if children get actually abused (sexually and/or physically) by their parents.

I don’t think that you can hold it against parents, if their children brainwashed by the LGBT-propaganda, come out as “trans”.
I don’t even blame parents if their children become lawyers!


You're entitled to your opinion, which at this point I find is worthless. If you think I am supporting tyranny at all then you are a complete moron, but I've known that for some time now.
Another just above retard lawyer that thinks I’m stupid?!?
Only morons think I am…

Your post confirms once again that you support the tyrants…
As corrupt courts cannot be trusted, letting them decide on stealing children from their loving parents, is a terrible form of tyranny.

Of course children can also be stolen from their parents, if they don’t accept their “gender identity” (if that is the correct term?!?)
Stealing children by government is obviously one of their motives, only the arguments change. The moral of this story is that whether parents accept or deny their children “coming out”, their children can be trafficked by the authorities, with one of the arguments used - transgenderism…
 
“Pimped out”?!? For performing at some show (not nude…)?!?
The kid wasn’t forced by its parents, was it?!? So I strongly disagree if this would be a motive for stealing this disturbed kid from its loving parents.

And the date rape drug reference isn't a problem for you. Got it. :rolleyes:

The only exceptions to this I see, is if children get actually abused (sexually and/or physically) by their parents.

I repeat DATE RAPE DRUG!

I don’t think that you can hold it against parents, if their children brainwashed by the LGBT-propaganda, come out as “trans”.
I don’t even blame parents if their children become lawyers!

Nah. Blame overly ambitious spouses for the lawyers.


Another just above retard lawyer that thinks I’m stupid?!?
Only morons think I am…

LOL.
Your post confirms once again that you support the tyrants…

So you're clearly off your meds. (Or maybe you're off your date rape drugs?) Nothing in my post supports tyranny. But you seem oblivious to a child who's being allowed to dance at an adult gay bar openly talking about taking a date rape drug. You have a warped sense of priorities.



Edit: Just to be clear. If you don't have a problem with ^this then the problem is you.
 
So you're clearly off your meds. (Or maybe you're off your date rape drugs?) Nothing in my post supports tyranny. But you seem oblivious to a child who's being allowed to dance at an adult gay bar openly talking about taking a date rape drug. You have a warped sense of priorities.
Making up more arguments out of you’re a$$?!?

You are just another dumb arrogant lawyer without any morals, that supports tyranny through moralistic preaching.
Your post was defending the practice of your government stealing children from their parents for performing at LGBT shows, into an adoption child trafficking system that in the overwhelming amount of situations is worse for the children than the parents.

Other than that I do not know how ‘good’ parents are supposed to handle a child that wants to switch gender.
Especially not if whatever they do, it could be used by corrupt lawyers to justify stealing their children from them…


Edit: Just to be clear. If you don't have a problem with ^this then the problem is you.
That I’m against a government using whichever argument they can to steal children from their loving parents, does NOT mean that I promote children performing at LGBT-shows.

In general, I don’t think that LGBT-shows should be forbidden, but should come with an age restriction (maybe 16 or even 18). Other than that I don’t have much of a problem with it
I have more problems with massive LGBT ‘pride’ events in the centres of cities, which often involve semi nudity…
 
Making up more arguments out of you’re a$$?!?

Not at all. From the start of when your lying butt tried to derail the thread by saying Desantis was trying to take children away from "loving parents", I pointed out that "Desmond the Amazing" was dancing for tips at a gay bar and joking with an adult transgender about doing the date rape drug ketamine. I posted VIDEO of this and you refused to address it. At this point it's safe to say you're psychotic. I don't say that lightly. It takes a particularly deragned person to attack me for having a problem with a parent letting her son dance for tips at an adult establishment and joke about taking a date rape drug. You can have the last word as I'm putting you on my ignore list. There's no need for me to go back and forth with someone as mentally unstable as you.
 
Last edited:
This entire movement is just designed to kill people by tricking them into killing themselves.
 
Last edited:
Not at all. From the start of when your lying butt tried to derail the thread by saying Desantis was trying to take children away from "loving parents", I pointed out that "Desmond the Amazing" was dancing for tips at a gay bar and joking with an adult transgender about doing the date rape drug ketamine. I posted VIDEO of this and you refused to address it.
You’re a lying pack of $hit that doesn’t even hide that you support stealing children from their parents by the adoption child trafficking system.
Because in the overwhelming majority of cases, the adoption system is worse for the kids.

Here’s one of the many heartbreaking examples, I can imagine that for kids that think that they can switch gender, the adoption child trafficking system is even worse than for “normal” children. This is what you support…
Here you can hear Maya Kowalski explain how her life was destroyed by getting medically kidnapped, and why she won’t go to doctors anymore.


The parents advocate explains that the only way to get the medically kidnapped child back, is by cooperating. She is right you know (ever heard of Kafka?)!



At this point it's safe to say you're psychotic. I don't say that lightly. It takes a particularly deragned person to attack me for having a problem with a parent letting her son dance for tips at an adult establishment and joke about taking a date rape drug. You can have the last word as I'm putting you on my ignore list. There's no need for me to go back and forth with someone as mentally unstable as you.
More ad hominems, made up out of you’re a$$?!?
 
Here’s one of the many heartbreaking examples, I can imagine that for kids that think that they can switch gender, the adoption child trafficking system is even worse than for “normal” children.
Here you can hear Maya Kowalski explain how her life was destroyed by getting medically kidnapped, and why she won’t go to doctors anymore.


The parents advocate explains that the only way to get the medically kidnapped child back, is by cooperating. She is right you know (ever heard of Kafka?)!




I highly recommend this film to anybody who hasn't seen it. It's riveting and gut-wrenching what they did to Maya, her family, and all the other people they do this to :mad:
 
You’re a lying pack of $hit that doesn’t even hide that you support stealing children from their parents by the adoption child trafficking system.
Because in the overwhelming majority of cases, the adoption system is worse for the kids.

Here’s one of the many heartbreaking examples, I can imagine that for kids that think that they can switch gender, the adoption child trafficking system is even worse than for “normal” children. This is what you support…
Here you can hear Maya Kowalski explain how her life was destroyed by getting medically kidnapped, and why she won’t go to doctors anymore.


The parents advocate explains that the only way to get the medically kidnapped child back, is by cooperating. She is right you know (ever heard of Kafka?)!




More ad hominems, made up out of you’re a$$?!?

I said I wasn't going to respond to your bullshit, but I saw @PAF comment and got curious. Once again you are the liar and you are arguing through projection and you are disgusting human being. I never said anything about kidnapping anyone. I simply don't agree with your disgusting position that a mom who lets her child dance for tips and an adult establishment and "joke" about taking a date rape drug is a "loving mom." You won't address what I actually said because you lack the moral fortitude to do so.

Edit: One more thing you psychotic bucket of puss. The video you posted about Maya is the OPPOSITE of what I'm talking about! I'm not supporting unecessary treatment for children. YOU ARE THE ONE DOING THAT! Here is something for YOU to watch jackass.



The same medical establishment that "medically kidnapped" Maya is also responsible for abusing Chole Cole. And her parents were victims. Unlike the sicko mom of "Desmond the Amazing" (the kid who was dancing for tips at a bar he couldn't even legally go into and later was "joking" about taking a date rape drug) the parents of Chole Cole actually were loving but they were bullied by "gender affirming" doctors into putting their daughter on hormone treatments designed to make her a boy. The doctors BULLIED her parents by telling them "Would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter." They weren't exploiting Chole and sending her on a media tour like Desmond's mom was. The problem in Chole's case wasn't her parents. It was the medical establishment. How DARE you compare to that you hermoroid on Satans anus! I don't think that children belong in adult establishments nor should they be taking, or even joking about taking, date rape drugs. You, in your sick, demented and twisted mind, conflated that to medical kidnapping? Go to hell. (You're alrealdy there clearly). A straight kid, by law, isn't allowed into adult establishments. Gay kids shouldn't be either. I draw a hard line on pedophilia. If you don't then maybe you should be on a list.
 
Last edited:
I highly recommend this film to anybody who hasn't seen it. It's riveting and gut-wrenching what they did to Maya, her family, and all the other people they do this to :mad:
I am going to as YOU to comment on this directly since FirerFarter is too much of a coward to do so? Do you, from a MORAL position, think that it's "loving" for a mother to have her child, trans or otherwise, dance at an adult establishment for tips and "joke" with an adult about taking a date rape drug? Don't duck the question with some BS "I just don't want the government involved" answer. This isn't a question of what someone has the right to do but rather whether something is the right thing to do.
 
I am going to as YOU to comment on this directly since FirerFarter is too much of a coward to do so? Do you, from a MORAL position, think that it's "loving" for a mother to have her child, trans or otherwise, dance at an adult establishment for tips and "joke" with an adult about taking a date rape drug? Don't duck the question with some BS "I just don't want the government involved" answer. This isn't a question of what someone has the right to do but rather whether something is the right thing to do.

??? Why not?

Ron Paul was on to something when he said you can't legislate morality. Much of the problems that we face is because one group or another has access to tax payer money and then exploits it. Remove the crutch and a lot of that goes away on its own.

Though I won't/can't/don't want to legislate it, I'll give you insight as to how I raised my offspring [just one example]:

I told offspring that the age to legally drive was 16, even though I learned at 12 many decades ago. I have always maintained and instilled "with liberty comes responsibility". When offspring learned to cut grass with the tractor at 10 and practiced/developed enough skills, I then taught offspring to drive a car at 11. Risk/reward [yes, I knew what could happen concerning risk] I then allowed offspring to drive to the store on offspring's own, a mile down the road while I was busy doing projects. Offspring was fully confident, wise and aware by the time 15/16 rolled around.

As for dancing at an adult establishment, of course I don't endorse it, and would never allow my own to do that. But once again, different areas have different ages of consent for various things, and government should not be involved. All that does it forces things underground which makes them even more dangerous. Who's to say that a 21 year old is more aware and mature than a 17 year old? I know enough 30 year olds who are dumber than bricks and find themselves in trouble, just as there are 16 or 17 year olds who are mature and responsible and ready to make their place in society. Vice versa as well. In my personal view, should I condone government to make decisions concerning me and my offspring, potentially and more than likely regressing how they mature? Should I allow that to be my and my offspring's crutch? In Italy and other parts of world, teens drink wine [which has health benefits if done responsibly]. By the time they are out of their parents home drinking wine is old hat. Here in 'Merica, they can't touch the stuff until 21, even though they're already in the service or college at 18, and it's "party heaven" and stupid-shit-happens.

It's the government [the state] which lays the footing and creates crutches which leads to stagnation in development, maturity and personal responsibility. It's not the job of government [the state] to legislate morality [or fund such things], even though it wrongly does.
 
Last edited:
The people tearing children from their families using the power of the state under an umbrella of "children's welfare" and the people coercing children into genital mutilation and hormonal sterilizations at the hands of an insane medical establishment, are the same people.

Both should be vigorously opposed.
 
??? Why not?

Ron Paul was on to something when he said you can't legislate morality. Much of the problems that we face is because one group or another has access to tax payer money and then exploits it. Remove the crutch and a lot of that goes away on its own.

Though I won't/can't/don't want to legislate it, I'll give you insight as to how I raised my offspring [just one example]:

I told offspring that the age to legally drive was 16, even though I learned at 12 many decades ago. I have always maintained and instilled "with liberty comes responsibility". When offspring learned to cut grass with the tractor at 10 and practiced/developed enough skills, I then taught offspring to drive a car at 11. Risk/reward [yes, I knew what could happen concerning risk] I then allowed offspring to drive to the store on offspring's own, a mile down the road while I was busy doing projects. Offspring was fully confident, wise and aware by the time 15/16 rolled around.

As for dancing at an adult establishment, of course I don't endorse it, and would never allow my own to do that. But once again, different areas have different ages of consent for various things, and government should not be involved. All that does it forces things underground which makes them even more dangerous. Who's to say that a 21 year old is more aware and mature than a 17 year old? I know enough 30 year olds who are dumber than bricks and find themselves in trouble, just as there are 16 or 17 year olds who are mature and responsible and ready to make their place in society. Vice versa as well. In my personal view, should I condone government to make decisions concerning me and my offspring, potentially and more than likely regressing how they mature? Should I allow that to be my and my offspring's crutch? In Italy and other parts of world, teens drink wine [which has health benefits if done responsibly]. By the time they are out of their parents home drinking wine is old hat. Here in 'Merica, they can't touch the stuff until 21, even though they're already in the service or college at 18, and it's "party heaven" and stupid-shit-happens.

It's the government [the state] which lays the footing and creates crutches which leads to stagnation in development, maturity and personal responsibility. It's not the job of government [the state] to legislate morality [or fund such things], even though it wrongly does.
You let 11-year-old kids drive your car to the store by themselves?
 
  • Like
Reactions: PAF
...

As for dancing at an adult establishment, of course I don't endorse it, and would never allow my own to do that.
^That part RIGHT THERE! Everything else is irrelevant to my question. Again, I have NEVER in this thread suggested what the government law SHOULD be in this circumstance. I just questioned FireFarter's argument that somehow I supported tyranny just because of my opinon that a mom who would let her child do that and would also let her child joke with adults about taking a "date rape drug" was somehow a "loving parent."
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: PAF
Back
Top