What happened to the over 22000 identified caucus voters for Paul in Nevada?

[tsai3904]

I possibly have a busy day at work on Super Tuesday, but if I can get that day off, I will help with my area for GOTV by driving people to the polls. How do I identify more supporters in my area, because it's been worse than pulling teeth to find people (Chattanooga, TN)? We're a primary state, so I don't know if my efforts will be as noticable as they would in a caucus state.

EARLY VOTING

Tennessee has early voting from February 15 to March 1. You don't need to do everything on Super Tuesday. Look for supporters during the early voting period and offer to take them to the polls. The voting location will be at your County Election Commissions office (locations here).


We need to utilize early voting and it's been discussed before but there hasn't been any plans of action.

Early voting has begun in Arizona, Ohio and Vermont. Ohio and Vermont are OPEN states so we can convince anyone to vote for Ron Paul and take them to the polls the same day.

See this thread for more info:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?353678-How-to-Boost-the-18-29-Youth-Vote-Guaranteed

 

[craezie]

Look at the demographics that we win big with -- young, poor, and male. That is a triple whammy against dependability.

 

[dusman]

http://www.nationbuilder.com...

 

[Ekrub]

Maybe we should use the state forums here a little more and focus on each individual state and keep a tally/poll on each caucus primary of people here + friends or family people know are going to vote Paul. Then keep focus on IDing Paul supporters through Facebook and meetup and get them to sign up here to affirm their support. Maybe a silly idea, but I think the responsibility of GOTV is on us, the grassroots. We need to do something.

 

[tbone717]

Maybe we should use the state forums here a little more and focus on each individual state and keep a tally/poll on each caucus primary of people here + friends or family people know are going to vote Paul. Then keep focus on IDing Paul supporters through Facebook and meetup and get them to sign up here to affirm their support. Maybe a silly idea, but I think the responsibility of GOTV is on us, the grassroots. We need to do something.

Nice thought, but GOTV is something that needs to be done by the campaign. They are doing the voter ID work and need to be making the proper follow up calls. The percentage of people on RPF and even on FB groups and such is a very small percentage of the actual turnout.

 

[RDM]

Maybe we should use the state forums here a little more and focus on each individual state and keep a tally/poll on each caucus primary of people here + friends or family people know are going to vote Paul. Then keep focus on IDing Paul supporters through Facebook and meetup and get them to sign up here to affirm their support. Maybe a silly idea, but I think the responsibility of GOTV is on us, the grassroots. We need to do something.

You're darn right the GOTV is a grassroots responsibility and everyone should take ownership. How hard is it to insure your circle of influence i.e. Mother, Father, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, cousins, friends, co-workers know when to vote and PERSONALLY pick them up in your vehicle and drive them to the polls. Doing this alone will hugely increase the turnout.

 

[Badger Paul]

Truth be told, Nevada's demographics were roughly about the same as Florida (minus the Cuban vote). We were lucky to get near 20 percent of the vote. Old and white, that's why Gingrich did as well as he did.

There was a Nevadan on RPF (I think his name is BKom) who warned not to believe the media and popular myths about Nevada. Yes there are voters who independent and want to live free, have lots hookers and blow and certainly we carried our fair share. But the reality is the base GOP vote in Nevada is the same as it is in places like Arizona or Florida or many different places throughout the Sunbelt: Retirees, ex-military and intelligence, FBI, that sort of thing; transplanted Californian conservatives fleeing the state. And as he said, if came to an up and down vote many persons in the state (particularly GOP voters) would ban prostitution and medical marijuana. That's why Gingrich could blow off the governor, cancel appearances as such and still get over 20 percent, because all his jerk-off local backers like Chuck Muth and Sue Lowden had to do email their Tea Party lists, those people who voted for Sharon Angle, and these people showed up as a matter of habit. And there were enough of these to divide up with Rick Santorum, who also did nothing and still got over 10 percent. We don't have voters like that yet and we'll still finish around 20 percent. Maybe we should celebrate.

Anyway the biggest disappointment is the Tea Party we helped to plant to seed for has given us bitter fruit when we tried to harvest it. They'd rather be against something than be for something, although what that is I haven't the foggiest clue, other than don't touch my social security, medicare or government pension and the U.S. can afford this and have 900 military bases arounf the world. And also in reality, people vote for candidates, not causes, especially when it's for president. A candidate who is not the best at what he does is not going to win a lot of votes. So in a race where a large group of voters don't want a message other than "We oppose" and where they're looking for the best politician, Ron Paul is going to be at a big disadvantage.

 

[sailingaway]

pollsters were saying all week Ron was in FOURTH. A bunch probably stayed home or 'tried to make a difference' with a different vote based just on that alone.

gingrich did as well as he did because his billionaire backer has HUGE organization there, think Daleys in Chicago. (well, maybe not quite, but of that sort of strength. He has his niche of the community locked down.)

 

[Ekrub]

Nice thought, but GOTV is something that needs to be done by the campaign. They are doing the voter ID work and need to be making the proper follow up calls. The percentage of people on RPF and even on FB groups and such is a very small percentage of the actual turnout.

Okay, well even if that's the case, then the campaign isn't doing a good job so let's step up. A few ten-twenty thousand people on RPF can network out and turn that into 100,000. Even if that's a few thousand votes per state maybe that's the difference between third and second. Or second and first. I'm not trying to say this is the best idea, but let's face it. We are at a disadvantage with money and media exposure. We need to step it up somehow. I think GOTV is something that we could have a small positive impact at here. We need to fight for that extra inch because that's the difference between winning and losing /pacino

 

[tbone717]

Okay, well even if that's the case, then the campaign isn't doing a good job so let's step up. A few ten-twenty thousand people on RPF can network out and turn that into 100,000. Even if that's a few thousand votes per state maybe that's the difference between third and second. Or second and first. I'm not trying to say this is the best idea, but let's face it. We are at a disadvantage with money and media exposure. We need to step it up somehow. I think GOTV is something that we could have a small positive impact at here. We need to fight for that extra inch because that's the difference between winning and losing /pacino

Agreed. Frankly I am very disappointed with PFH for NV. We had been calling that state for months it seems, we should have been able to ID more 4600 voters (using the currently reported totals). There were 1000's of man hours used in that effort and it fell way short of success.

 

[Join The Paul Side]

I'm really starting to think that some bullshit is going on behind the scenes. The vote is now being recounted where 68% of the electorate is located and I really think of those 22,000 Paul identified voters, having less then 25% of that number show up smells wrong. I agree that the Paul supporters walking on broken glass meme gets blown a little out of proportion, but 25%? I'm not buying it!

Nothing is going on behind the scenes. We are strong with the youth vote, Independents, crossover Democrats, and a small portion of registered Republicans. This is not enough to overcome Establishment voters. The campaign failed to expand into the Establishments voting block: Old people. They are the main ones that turn out to vote.

 

[tbone717]

Nothing is going on behind the scenes. We are strong with the youth vote, Independents, crossover Democrats, and a small portion of registered Republicans. This is not enough to overcome Establishment voters. The campaign failed to expand into the Establishments voting block: Old people. They are the main ones that turn out to vote.

Right.

The thing that frustrates me is that we knew this going in. Any one with a calculator can tell that you cannot win without getting a sizable percentage of typical GOP voters on your side. I don't buy the "they don't vote for us because they are brainwashed neo-cons" crap. They have voted for this message before. Go out and pound home the buzzwords - limited government, lower taxes, personal responsibility, more jobs, more freedom, strong defense, etc. GOP voters eat this up and they always have.

 

[Texan4Life]

Old people don't vote for Paul because they watch a lot of TV and the TV tells them not to vote for him. I really think it's as simple as that.

huge +1

 

[virgil47]

Old people don't vote for Paul because they watch a lot of TV and the TV tells them not to vote for him. I really think it's as simple as that.

Sorry but that is pure B.S. If the campaign aimed even just a few tv ads squarely at the 55 plus group they will respond. Ignoring the largest voter group in the country is the problem.

 

[Hitman83]

EARLY VOTING

Tennessee has early voting from February 15 to March 1.

After I posted, I remembered this and I'm going to help people out more in early voting. Doing what I can, but I need to find the folks that need motivating. I've convinced 2 people who don't vote to go vote today. I told them I will call everyday during early voting to make sure they remember.

 

[eleganz]

I was on the ground in Nevada and trust me when I say a lot of people who like him simply didn't turn out to vote and there are also a lot of independents and democrats who didn't get to register in time or didn't care to do it in time.

 

[RDM]

I was on the ground in Nevada and trust me when I say a lot of people who like him simply didn't turn out to vote and there are also a lot of independents and democrats who didn't get to register in time or didn't care to do it in time.

Thanks for confirming what the numbers are telling us.

 

[febo]

NOPE. No one blowing smoke up your you know what. We have a problem that no one wants to address. It's called voter turn out. You see, Ron Paul has the most vibrant support base. Only problem is: They don't take the voting process serious. Translation: THEY DON'T VOTE!!!

I simply don't believe you - it defies all logic.

 

[RDM]

I simply don't believe you - it defies all logic.

Being a ostrich, you would.

 

[febo]

Being a ostrich, you would.

You sound like a sock puppet - listen, you cannot be a Ron Paul supporter and not vote. If you don't vote you never were a Ron Paul supporter.