What happened to the over 22000 identified caucus voters for Paul in Nevada?

[CTRattlesnake]

I'm really starting to think that some bullshit is going on behind the scenes. The vote is now being recounted where 68% of the electorate is located and I really think of those 22,000 voters, and having less then 25% of that number show up, something smells wrong. I agree that the Paul supporters walking on broken glass meme gets blown a little out of proportion, but 25%? I'm not buying it!

With 75% of the results in, barely 22,000 people have voted. Not sure where the campaign got that number

 

[tbone717]

Phone from Home did not do an aggressive GOTV for NV

Period

Agreed. And I cannot understand why this happened. We have been doing PFH for NV for months right? Thousands of man hours for what could be a third place finish and at best we squeak by and take 2nd. I have been a big supporter of PFH, but I have to call the operation of it into question if it is not producing its intended goal.

 

[RonPaul101.com]

NOPE. No one blowing smoke up your you know what. We have a problem that no one wants to address. It's called voter turn out. You see, Ron Paul has the most vibrant support base. Only problem is: They don't take the voting process serious. Translation: THEY DON'T VOTE!!!

There are tons of threads trying to address this issue, but it's being ignored. Why? Because the guilty ones are on this forum and they're ashamed of themselves.

THIS. It's hard to believe but I have seen a couple of these. A guy I know in Iowa, a huge Ron Paul guy, stayed home because he was tired and his "one vote didn't matter at that much in the end."

We need to stop this false reasoning. How can anyone spend this much time following this movement and this campaign and not vote. I live in NJ, a state that is winner take all and will likely not matter in the least and i WILL NOT miss my chance to actually cast my vote.

 

[vita3]

Of course calling people on a telephone doesn't equate to actual votes on the ground.

 

[ironj221]

With 75% of the results in, barely 22,000 people have voted. Not sure where the campaign got that number

I thought the number was just a rumor?

If not, it means that a lot of our support stayed home :/

 

[KingNothing]

What happened to the over 22000 identified caucus voters for Paul in Nevada? We were told that Ron Paul had more voters that Romney did in 2008. It looks like someone was blowing smoke up our you know what.

Realistically, there was absolutely no chance of turning out 22,000 voters to the caucus. That's a pipe dream. Paul only pulled in 6,000 votes in Nevada in 2008.

 

[Nate]

The problem is that the establishment candidates have voters. No matter what, voters vote. Doesn't matter who they are voting for, they just do it because they have to.

Ron Paul does not have voters. He has supporters. Supporters support. Support does not translate into votes.

The bottom line is that we are not winning the establishment voters over. Newt and Romney are. They could effectively stop campaigning nation wide and still get 70% of the vote in every state. The media controls the voters. Its nice to see we have a built in 20% or so that will vote for paul out of his supporter base, but it will not go much higher until we can turn out the old people. This is what happens when you try to create new voters out of thin air (the kids). They don't show, they forget, etc. Keep in mind that the level of support the people on this forum have is NOT indicative of typical Ron Paul support. Every supporter is not like the members here. I managed to many of my family members and friends to vote, but other than my mom, not a single one was willing to help canvass, sign wave, call, etc. Out of 25 people, only 1 went above and beyond.

+rep
The simple fact is that the brainwashed establishment voters who voted the psychopaths currently running this country into office & destroyed this country are still voting in large numbers. People need to stop complaining & blaming Paul supporters for not having a 100% voter turnout & start laying the blame squarely on the shoulders of those whom deserve it, the typical GOP establishment voter. Anyone who votes for Newt, Frothy or Mittens deserves EXACTLY what they are going to get, a totalitarian society. I just hate it that those of us who don't deserve it are going to get it too.

 

[justatrey]

In general, young people don't show up to vote; they never have and they never will!

 

[neverseen]

Anyone who votes for Newt, Frothy or Mittens deserves EXACTLY what they are going to get, a totalitarian society. I just hate it that those of us who don't deserve it are going to get it too.

Robert Kiyosaki, author of the popular Rich Dad series of books, was on GBTV yesterday. He is the second person I have heard lately that says now is a great time for rich people to make a lot of money. But he also believes we are probably headed for total collapse. Collapse as in big cities facing cannibalism. He recommends the "5 Gs" just in case things deteriorate so badly that anarchy is the law of the land: Gold, Ground, Gasoline, Grub, and Guns. "Ground" meaning owning your home outright.

Just have more than the other guy

 

[TNforPaul45]

There are only three things that will ever motivate someone, truly, to go to the polls and vote: Hunger, Pain, and the fear of either of those two happening.

 

[neverseen]

In general, young people don't show up to vote; they never have and they never will!

My lil bro and his gf are both 22 and I had to call him starting at 5:30pm every 15 minutes until he cast his vote at 6:45pm when the poll closes at 7pm here. That's the kind of push younger guys need.

 

[KenInMontiMN]

Curious why Clark County is still just 50% reported this morning while the rest of the state is 100% in. I do seem to remember something similar 4 years ago, though.

 

[Ronulus]

Curious why Clark County is still just 50% reported this morning while the rest of the state is 100% in. I do seem to remember something similar 4 years ago, though.

Recount and perhaps voter fraud, they are thinking of throwing out many of those precincts because of poor management and they didn't get people to sign in etc.

 

[opinionatedfool]

For all other states, if you know anyone who is a younger voter, do what @neverseen did. Be ruthless about getting them out to vote!

 

[libertyman]

What is the grassroots were to organize a state by state sworn affidavit of vote for Ron Paul to match it up against the reported totals of the vote. If enough people participate in this it would make for an illuminating picture of the real vote count.

 

[HeyArchie]

Maybe they've seen the results of all of the states so far.

 

[Hitman83]

I possibly have a busy day at work on Super Tuesday, but if I can get that day off, I will help with my area for GOTV by driving people to the polls. How do I identify more supporters in my area, because it's been worse than pulling teeth to find people (Chattanooga, TN)? We're a primary state, so I don't know if my efforts will be as noticable as they would in a caucus state.

 

[tbone717]

I possibly have a busy day at work on Super Tuesday, but if I can get that day off, I will help with my area for GOTV by driving people to the polls. How do I identify more supporters in my area, because it's been worse than pulling teeth to find people (Chattanooga, TN)? We're a primary state, so I don't know if my efforts will be as noticable as they would in a caucus state.

Contact the campaign and sign up to volunteer. It is far better to work with a coordinated effort rather than attempt to do something on your own, especially if you have never done this before.

 

[neverseen]

What is the grassroots were to organize a state by state sworn affidavit of vote for Ron Paul to match it up against the reported totals of the vote. If enough people participate in this it would make for an illuminating picture of the real vote count.

If we can't turn it out once in an election cycle, what makes you think twice is possible? For example, my group in my county had less than 100 people in it. By some crazy occurrence over 10,000 voted in my county for Ron Paul. I have no idea who those people were or where they came from. How would 100 people signing a pledge account for the 10,000 that voted?

Oh, and of those 100 people I think 5 are on the forum. The forum is not representative of actual Ron Paul support. It's the extremist wing of his support. There is no denying that.

 

[RDM]

For all other states, if you know anyone who is a younger voter, do what @neverseen did. Be ruthless about getting them out to vote!

I would go one step further and go pick them up and personally take them to the voting booth. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ersonally-get-friends-family-to-voting-booths.