What do you think of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[Peace Piper]

AFAIK, he never blew up a US passenger jet over our airspace:

"Iran Air Flight 655 was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles on 3 July 1988 as it flew over the Strait of Hormuz at the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, an Airbus A300B2-203 operated by Iran Air, was flying from Bandar Abbas, Iran to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. While flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, it was destroyed by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes (CG-49). All 290 onboard including 66 children and 16 crew perished...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
(at the time, some sick little twisted US Pieces of S&*^ suggested that Iran had packed the plane with cadavers and staged the whole thing- USA USA USA)

And if he ordered the overthrow of another government I haven't heard about it:

"...The 1953 Iranian coup d'état (known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup) was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States under the name TPAJAX Project. The coup saw the transition of Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état



In the last 13 years, the US Gov has bombed Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and who knows where else.

In the last 60 years, which nations have Iran attacked?

We have overthrown their democratically elected government, shot down a civilian airliner, and encircled the nation with our military bases.

Why should any Iranian worry about little ol' US?


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[KingRobbStark]

Like any dictator, with scorn.

 

[devil21]

This is a curious wrinkle in the Ahmadinejad puzzle. Assuming the usual butchering of his speeches isn't at play here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57520360/irans-ahmadinejad-wants-a-new-world-order/

(AP) NEW YORK - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that a new world order needs to emerge, away from years of American "bullying" and domination.

Ahmadinejad spoke to The Associated Press in a wide-ranging interview on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly - his last as president of Iran.

 

[Brett85]

I think the best refutation of neo-con talking points is just to point out that Ahmadinejad is resigning from office in 2013, and the President of Iran doesn't really have any power. It's an office basically like the Queen of England. I really don't think you can defend the terrible things he says about Israel and the Holocaust.

 

[juleswin]

Like any dictator, with scorn.

Dictators don't have presidential debates, close elections and they usually don't willingly step down when their term limit is up. You might think their elections are rigged but so is ours, but you don't call the POTUS a dictator.

 

[juleswin]

Like any dictator, with scorn.

Dictators don't have presidential debates, close elections and they usually don't willingly step down when their term limit is up. You might think their elections are rigged but so is ours, but you don't call the POTUS a dictator.

 

[Tankbot85]

Got Hannity on right now and he's talking about this guy. Ol' Great American Sean Hannity loves keep that war propaganda machine well-oiled. I almost hope Obama does bomb Iran just so I can hear Sean try to spin his idiot fans into believing that the war they wanted all-along is now a bad thing since it was started by a Democrat. If Romney wins, Hannity will be even more on board with the war effort than he is now.

I listen to him on the way home from work so i can hear the crap the spits out. The war propaganda against Iran has been kicking up strong from him lately. It disgusts me. I have had to turn him off the last few days because of it.

 

[Cowlesy]

He's a dirtbag and I wish the Iranian people would get rid of him.

 

[Todd]

We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that researchers are jailed? Why is researching this issue prohibitited? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy?

Um...really? In his country? I want what he's smoking.

 

[libertygrl]

A little more history that is long overlooked.

First of all, there are different types of Jews. The actual Jews who lived peacefully with Palestinians and Arabs for centuries are in fact persecuted today by the communist, atheist Jews who have claimed the land for their own this century. A simple search would go a long way to understanding what has happened in the last 100 years or so.


On Nov. 4, 2003, Reinhard Günzel, a brigadier general, who was head of Germany's Special Forces (KSK), was given a "dishonourable" discharge from the army's services. He was fired because he wrote a letter to Martin Hohmann (MP, CDU), who recently went on record about the Jewish role in Bolshevik Russia; and the General applauded Mr. Hohmann's statements.

Hohmann then made this known to the press, who in turn had a field day.

However, there is one thing that the press mysteriously overlooks. What was said is true.

Isn't it almost "funny" how the TRUTH has become anti-Semitic. I mean, it's an actual FACT here that we're talking about: Jews were behind the Russian revolution. This is not some outlandish statement. It should not be considered anti-Semitic, yet it is.

Jews openly bragged about the Russian revolution and its aftereffects at the time. They gloated. They were the financiers--from Warburg to Jacob Schiff (whose great-grand son recently married Al Gore's daughter, oddly enough). They were the revolutionaries--from Apfelbaum, to Zinoviev, to Molotov, to Trotsky (Bronstein), to Lenin (Ulyanov), etc. They were the bloodthirsty horde in the NKVD who later became the KGB, led by Kaganovich and Berija, who were responsible for liquidating untold millions of innocent Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians etc.

And, now Jews say, "Who, us? No, Jews had nothing to do with it. You're just anti-Semitic for saying such things."

Even those Jews who might still be alive and who took part in the massacres afterward now deny the massacres had anything to do with Jews. Even though anti-Semitism became a crime punishable by death after the Russian revolution, Jews now say that they were "persecuted." Even though the churches burned while the synagogues were left standing, Jews deny that they were protected. Even though priests were murdered or forced to sweep the streets, while rabbis were put on a pedestal, Jews now say they were the ones persecuted.

There is only one thing that we can conclude from all this: Truth is anti-Semitic.

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/perpetrators1.htm


The Execution of

Tsar Nicholas II, 1918

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nicholas.htm


Winston Churchill described the tumultuous years between 1918 and 1933 as a period of 'formidable transformations'. Germany, defeated in a war not of its own making, was laid prostrate by defeat, revolution and anarchy. Communist revolutionaries eager to capitalise on their overthrow of the Russian state seized power. A British Government White Paper estimated that the Royal Navy's blockade on Germany "caused nearly 800,000 deaths, mainly women and children." Vast tracts of German territory were seized as booty and claims for reparations were so draconian that they effectively turned every German into a slave of the victors.

With the Kaiser (king) in exile, the Workers and Soldiers' Soviets and the Social Democrats 'dismissed' the legitimate Ebert government and proclaimed a Soviet Republic. Armed bands of communists (Spartacists) led by Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebnecht, patrolled the streets. In Bavaria, another Jew, Kurt Eisner had declared the province a Soviet Republic. Soldiers returning from the front were massacred, revolutionaries seized state property and strikes designed to cause maximum damage to the staggering economy were organised. Barracks and naval dockyards were seized and street barricades divided Germany's cities and towns into politico-criminal fiefdoms.
The French occupied the Rhineland and ruled with an iron fist. An ordinary German passer-by might be randomly picked out and smashed to the ground with a rifle butt or fist. The French attempt to separate Bavaria from Germany sparked Adolf Hitler's brave but futile November Putsch.

The Saar and the Rhineland were occupied by French troops; inflation soared out of control until there were 136,000,000 Deutsch Marks to the dollar. Decadence erupted in sleaze. Art was debased as were the German people. Child prostitutes of both sexes could be bought openly on the streets. The world's debased were quick to take advantage of the German nation's descent into the economic chaos of defeat and revolutionaries fought like jackals for the territorial remains.

The peace terms (Versailles Treaty); dictated by the victor nations and notorious for its monstrously unjust nature was heaped upon this volcanic social upheaval.

"The greater part of our troubles is the result of World War I and the bad treaties which ended it." (Alfonso of Bourbon and Orleans. Great Grandson of Queen Victoria)

"Germany suffered most as a consequence of this Peace Treaty and the general insecurity which was bound to arise from it. The unemployment figures rose to a third of the number usually employed in the nation, which means, however, that by counting the families of the unemployed as well there were 26 million people in Germany out of a population of 65 millions faced by an absolutely hopeless future." (Adolf Hitler)

In Russia, the Bolsheviks had seized power. The geographical giant on Germany's eastern borders was locked into civil war, the brutality of which knew no bounds. The tentacles of the emerging internationalism of Communism were spreading like wildfire throughout Europe.

"Germany, with more than 6 million communists was on the verge of a catastrophe which none but those wanting in common sense can possibly ignore. If red terrorism was to have swept over Germany the western countries of Europe would probably also have realised that it is not a matter of indifference to them whether the outposts of a destructive Asian world power stand guard on the Rhine and on the North Sea, or whether the land is populated by peaceful German peasants and working men whose only wish is to make an honest living and to be on friendly terms with other nations. By averting this disaster which was threatening to ruin Germany, the National Socialist movement saved not only the German people, but also rendered the rest of Europe a service of historical merit. The National Socialist revolution has but one aim; To restore order in our own country, to provide work and bread for our starving masses and to lay down the ideas of honour, loyalty and decency as being the basis of our moral code, which, far from doing harm to other nations, can be for the benefit of all." (Adolf Hitler)

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/witness1.htm#3

Great post. Here is another historic perspective that is not really known:

The late Jack Bernstein was a rarity—an American Zionist who actually "returned" to Israel, not for a vacation or to summer on a kibbutz, but to live and die in Israel building a Jewish nation. What makes him almost one of a kind, though, was his ability to see through the sham and hype to the oppressive, racist, parasitic character of Zionism as practiced in modern Israel, and his courage to denounce it with the force and fervor of an Old Testament prophet.

Bernstein tells how it was, how it is, and how it will be—as long as American taxpayers tolerate their leaders’ bowing to every wish and whim of the Ashkenazic (Eastern European) elite which rules Israel. He takes the reader on a guided tour through Israel’s history, institutions and values, demonstrating how the best traditions of Biblical Judaism have been obscured, corrupted, or cast out to make way for the totalitarian, militaristic, chauvinist monster that is the Israel of today.

In Racist Marxist Israel is an irrefutable demonstration that Israeli Jews—and their Zionist kindred around the world—maintain a double standard on political morality and ethics, and that they support themselves, indeed wax fat on, the sweat and tears and toil and money of non-Jews.

Many Jews—and many more non-Jews—won’t like this book. Its author’s insistence that what’s sauce for the Gentile goose must also be sauce for the Zionist gander will leave a bitter taste in the mouths of large segments of America’s self-hating, sackcloth-and-ashes set. All readers of good will, however, will hail Jack Bernstein for his long and arduous march, from dual-loyalist to practicing Zionist to true-red-white-and-blue American patriot, a twentieth-century Paul Revere for all real Americans, Jews and Gentiles alike.

Introduction
Jack Bernstein

Before Israel became a state in 1948, Jews worldwide were filled with Zionist propaganda that Israel would be a homeland for all Jews, a refuge for persecuted Jews, a democratic country and the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

I am an Ashkenazi Jew who spent the first 25 years of my life in the United States, the country that has given ALL Jews freedom and the opportunity to prosper -- and prosper we Jews did, to the point that one portion of the Jews (the Zionists) have gained a position of political and economic dominance in the U.S.

To fully understand the story I am about to tell, it is important that you understand what Zionism really is. Zionist propaganda has led the American people to believe that Zionism and Judaism are one and the same and that they are religious in nature. This is a blatant lie.

Judaism is a religion; but Zionism is a political movement started mainly by East European (Ashkenazi) Jews who for centuries have been the main force behind communism/socialism. The ultimate goal of the Zionists is one-world government under the control of the Zionists and the Zionist-oriented Jewish international bankers. Communism/socialism are merely tools to help them accomplish their goal.

I was a Victim of Zionist Propaganda

After the 1967 War, we Jews were filled with pride that 'our homeland' had become so powerful and successful. Then too, we had been filled with the false propaganda that Jews in America were being persecuted. So, between 1967 and 1970 approximately 50.000 American Jews fell for this Zionist propaganda and migrated to Israel. I was one of those suckers.

After being filled with all this false Zionist propaganda, I felt that I would have a better chance to succeed in the new Jewish state. There was an added enticement, the spirit and challenge of pioneering and of helping my fellow Jews.

Dual Citizenship

I had no emotional conflict with leaving the U.S. because I was still able to keep my U.S. citizenship and could return to the U.S. at any time. You see, Jews are allowed to be citizens of both Israel and some countries -- U.S. is one of those countries. The U.S. government allows a Jew to be a citizen of both U.S. and Israel.

German Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Germany. Italian Americans cannot be citizen of both U.S. and Italy. Egyptian-Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Egypt . . . BUT, a Jewish American can be a citizen of both Israel and the U.S. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

I Arrive in the "Jewish Paradise"

Before leaving for Israel, a Jewish friend of mine had made arrangements for me to stay a few days with her sister, Fawzia Daboul and her spinster aunt. After arriving at Lod Airport just outside of Tel Aviv, I took a bus to the home of Miss Daboul and her aunt. When I saw Fawzia, it was love at first sight. I started calling her 'Ziva' her Hebrew name. Ziva is a Sephardic Jewess from Iraq who, like myself, had fallen for the Zionist propaganda and had migrated to Israel. She was employed as a hairdresser.

The Kibbutz

After visiting with Ziva and her her aunt for two days, I left to spend 6 months at Kibbutz 'Ein Hashofet' one of the well over 150 such communes then operating in Israel. Since then, many more have been started -- especially in the territory taken from the Palestinian Arabs. A kibbutz is a farming and sometimes industrial venture. It is important to explain that Israel's Kibbutz system is a Marxist idea brought to Israel by the Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel mainly from Poland and Russia. These Jews are part of that bunch of Jews know as the BOLSHEVIKS. Before 1917, they were the force that laid the foundation for the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 in Russia and the start of Communism.

Again, I want to point out, even emphasize, that it is some of that same bunch of Ashkenazi, Communist/Socialist Jews who migrated to Israel, gained control of the Zionist Movement and have dominated the government of Israel since its beginning in 1948.

Now, back to the kibbutz -

Prior to 1967, most of the work on the Kibbutz was done by Jews. But, since the 1967 War, the work has been done by Arabs who are paid a very low wage, and by volunteers from overseas. Members of the Kibbutz (all Jews) share all things equally. They receive clothing, food and a small allowance. All profits from the venture go into the Kibbutz account for future use. EACH OF THESE KIBBUTZ ARE AFFILIATED WITH ONE OF ISRAEL'S MARXIST PARTIES ranging from SOCIALIST TO HARD-CORE COMMUNIST.

The Kibbutz I was in was not hardcore communist. Yet, I was happy to leave after 4 months -- two months earlier than originally planned. During the time I was working in the Kibbutz, I carried on courtship with Ziva. She was one of the reasons I left the Kibbutz after only 4 months -- we were to be married.

Our Marriage Created Problems

The marriage ceremony was held in the Sephardic Synagogue. The ceremony was simple but beautiful. Ziva and I were happy, but our marriage created serious problems. You see, Ziva is a Sephardic Jewess and I am an Ashkenazi Jew. For an Ashkenazi Jew to marry a Sephardic Jew is frowned upon in Israel by the ruling Ashkenazi's. To understand why this is the case, you must realize the difference between the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews.

The powerful Zionist propaganda machine has led the American people to believe that a Jew is a Jew -- one race of people and that they are "God's Chosen People". I will deal with the "God's Chosen People" LIE later. First, it is important for you to understand that Jews are NOT one race of people.

There are two distinct groups of Jews in the world and they come from two different areas of the world -- the Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa and the Ashkenazi Jews come from Eastern Europe. The Sephardic is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are the Jews described in the Bible because they lived in the area described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs -- the only difference between them is the religion.

The Ashkenazi Jews, who now compromise 90% of the Jews in the world, had a rather strange beginning. According to historians, many of them Jewish, the Ashkenazi Jews came into existence about 1200 years ago. It happened this way:

At the eastern edge of Europe, there lived a tribe of people know as the Khazars. About the year 740 A.D., the Khazar king and his court decided they should adopt a religion for their people. So, representatives of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, were invited to present their religious doctrines. The Khazars chose Judaism, but it wasn't for religious reasons. If the Khazars had chosen Islam, they would have angered the strong Christian world. If they had chosen Christianity, they would have angered the strong Islamic world. So, they played it safe -- they chose Judaism. It wasn't for religious reasons the Khazars chose Judaism; it was for political reasons.

Sometime during the 13th century, the Khazars were driven from their land and they migrated westward with most of them settling in Poland and Russia. These Khazars are now known as Ashkenazi Jews. Because these Khazar Ashkenazi Jews merely chose Judaism, they are not really Jews -- at least not blood Jews.

Throughout their history, these Polish and Russian Ashkenazi Jews practiced communism/socialism and worked to have their ideas implemented in these countries.

By the late 1800s significant numbers of these communist/socialist Jews were found in Germany, the Balkans and eventually all over Europe. Because of their interference in the social and governmental affairs of Russia, they became the target of persecution by the Czars. Because of this, migration of these communist/socialist oriented Jews began. Some went to Palestine; some to Central and South America; and a large number of them came to the U.S.

Political Zionism is Born

In 1897, the First Zionist Congress was held in Basle, Switzerland. At this Congress, it was decided to work toward the establishment of a Jewish state and a search for land on which to build this Jewish state began. Great Britain offered the Zionists land in Africa. This the Zionists rejected: they wanted Palestine!

At the time, Palestine was inhabited by a half a million Palestinian Arabs and a few Palestinian Jews who are blood related and who had lived together in peace for centuries. With Palestine as their choice for a homeland, European Ashkenazi Jews began migrating to Palestine. As I explained earlier, most were communist/socialist oriented with some of them being radical Bolshevik communists whose aim is world domination.

So when you think of Jews, especially as related to Israel, keep in mind that there is a great difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews. They are not one united people. They are divided socially, politically and especially racially. Now, back to Ziva, a Sephardic Jewess and I an Ashkenazi Jew, and our lives in the so-called democratic country of Israel.

Sephardic Jews -- Second Class Citizens

For the first three years of our marriage, it was necessary for us to live with Ziva's aunt. This was because of the critical housing shortage in Israel and because of racism. Housing is allotted as follows:

● Ashkenazi Jews who have lived in Israel for many years are given first choice.
● Second in line are Ashkenazi Jews from Europe -- especially if they are married or marry an Israel-born Ashkenazi Jew.
● The next favored are Ashkenazi Jews from the U.S. -- especially if they marry an Israeli born Ashkenazi.
● Sephardic Jews have the next choice of whatever housing is left.
● At the bottom of the list are Moslems, Druze and Christians.

Opportunities for employment follow the same pattern: Ashkenazi Jews get the choicest jobs, Sephardic Jews next, and Moslem, Druze and Christians fill the menial jobs with a great many left unemployed. Even through I was an Ashkenazi Jew from the U.S., I was placed lower on the list for housing because I married a Sephardic Jewess.

Being denied housing was my second experience of the intense racism that exist in Israel. From the very beginning of my arrival in Israel, many slurs were yelled at me. We American Jews were merely being tolerated. Because Israel, to survive, must depend on gifts of American Jews and the sale of worthless Israeli Bonds in America, there is jealousy among the elite Israeli Ashkenazi Jews toward American Jews, even if the American Jews are also Ashkenazi. Many times I was told, "Go Home!" and, "We want your money, but not you."

However, there was a portion of the American Jews who were welcome and given favored treatment. They were the card-carrying communist Jews.

Of the 50.000 American Jews who, like myself, had migrated to Israel between 1967 and 1970 about 20% (10.000) of them were Marxist oriented with a great number of them actual card carrying communists. They were welcomed by the Israeli authorities and local Ashkenazi and were given favored treatment -- housing, jobs and social life. It must be noted besides coming from the U.S., a great number of communist Jews were migrating to Israel from Chile, Argentina and South Africa.

Of the 50.000 who had migrated to Israel during that time, 80% of us eventually returned to the U.S. The 20% who remained were those who were card-carrying communist or sympathetic to Marxism.

Three Faces of Israel

From what I have told you so far, you must have the idea that Israel is a Marxist (socialist/communist) country. This would be correct. But, Israel has three faces: Communism, Fascism and democracy. The Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel from Russia brought with them the ideology of socialism/communism and have put into practice much of that ideology. The Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel from Germany, while sympathetic to communism and support it, tend to favor the practices of Nazi-style fascism. During World War II, in Germany these elite Zionist Ashkenazi Jews worked closely with Hitler's Gestapo in persecuting the lower class German Jews and delivering them to concentration camps.

Now living in Israel, these elite Zionist Jews, who were well trained in Nazi-style fascism and favor it, have imposed many facets of fascism on Israel. To give the impression that Israel is a democracy, members of the Knesset (Israel Congress) are elected -- an odd type of election. This is where Israel's so-called democracy stops. It doesn't make any difference which party wins an election, the LIKUD or LABOR, the elite Zionist Jews rule in a dictatorial manner -- giving favors to the elite clique and brutally suppressing any dissent.

In the Zionist/communist scheme of world domination, it is Israel's role to continually stir up trouble in the Middle East. Since wars are a big part of this scheme of aggression, it is only natural that from early childhood on, Israeli youth are trained mentally and physically for war. For instance: Israel has its equivalent of Hitler's youth group. It is the Gadna; and all high school and junior high students are required to participate -- boys and girls. Like Hitler's youth group, the youth in Israel's Gadna are dressed in khaki uniforms. They take training and engage in paramilitary exercises.

Even at play, guns and thoughts of war are present. When on a picnic, instead of taking along baseball or soccer equipment, they take sub-machine guns and assault rifles and practice shooting and playing military games.

Once graduated from high school, all young boys are required to serve 3 years in the army (2 years for girls) or 4 years in the navy or air force (3 for girls). Ultra orthodox religious Jews are exempt from military service.

Once out of the service, a number of the ex-service people join the Shin Bet, the equivalent of Hitler's Gestapo. Like the Gestapo, they engage in repressing anyone who acts or speaks out against the Marxist/Fascist government of Zionist dominated Israel.

Like in Nazi Germany, all people in Israel are required to carry identity booklets called "Teudat Zehut" in Hebrew.

One day I changed jackets and forgot to take out my ID booklet when I went down town in Tel Aviv. A police officer approached me and asked for my "Teudat Zehut". I told him I had left it in my other jacket. Because I didn't have my ID booklet with me, I was taken to the police station. At the police station, the desk sergeant informed me that for not having my ID booklet with me, I could be jailed for up to 16 days without even being taken before a judge. All that was necessary is for the Police Lieutenant to sign a "Remand Order".

I asked permission to make a telephone call to my wife and tell her to bring my ID booklet to the station.

The sergeant allowed me two hours to have my "Teudat Zehut" produced. I called my wife and she brought my "Teudat Zehut" -- arriving just minutes before the 2 hour deadline expired. If she had been late in arriving, I would have been jailed for 16 days for not having my ID booklet with me. This is just one indication that Israel is a 'Police State' and not a democracy.

Concerning Nazism/Fascism, please let me clear a point. Germans are an admirable people -- I dare say even great. But in Germany, the general population were victims of the Nazis who through cunning and brutality gained power. In Germany, the average Jews were victims of the Zionist elite who worked hand in hand with the Nazis. Many of those same Zionist Jews who, in Germany, had worked with the Nazis, came to Israel and joined hands with the Zionist/Communist Jews from Poland and Russia. It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion.

Regarding the tie between the elite Ashkenazi Jew and the Nazis, take a look at the word 'Ashkenazi' -- look again 'Ashke-NAZI'.

Interesting isn't it?

There is a great confusion regarding the relationship of fascism to communism. Fascism is national socialism. Communism is international socialism.

Israel's Economy

Economically, Israel is bankrupt. Of course, this could have been predicted because Israel's economic structure is based on socialism.

Whenever a government of a state and its citizens spend more money than the value of the goods produced, economic bankruptcy will result. If it were not for aid from America, Israel's economy would have collapsed long ago. Israel is a 'welfare state' in every sense of the word -- it is America's most favored welfare recipient.

While America's farmers, small businessmen and laborers are struggling to survive, the U.S. Government, dominated by Zionist Jews, are draining the pockets and purses of American taxpayers to support Israel's socialist economy and war machine.

Since the Israeli government knows, and the favored Zionists know, that the Zionist pressure in America will ensure that America will keep sending them massive amounts of money, Israel's government and its favored citizens spend money like drunken sailors. This practice leads to inflation and eventually to an economic collapse.

Comparing Israel to drunken sailors is unfair to sailors. Sailors spend their OWN money -- Israel spends money it gets from America. Because Israel is a welfare state depending mainly on American aid for survival, it is on a down-hill slide. In 1982, Israel's inflation rate was 130%.

In 1983, it was 200%, and this year (1984) it is expected to exceed 400%. That means a hamburger that cost $1.00 last January will have risen to $5.00 by the end of December. History shows that no nation mired in economic problems as Israel has become, has ever avoided an economic collapse. Only with a massive increase in American financial aid can an economic collapse be averted -- even then, this solution would only be temporary.

Regarding the destructive tendencies of socialism, there are circumstances that allow a country to successfully provide social programs to help its people. It is possible in a country that has sufficient financial resource and where its citizens are deeply religious and considerate their fellowmen.

NONE of this exists in Israel. Even in countries where conditions are ideal there lingers a danger. Since the government of the country provides for the needs of its citizens, most of these citizens have a tendency to lose incentive to work hard; and a country with a complacent citizenry is easily conquered.

Visitors to Israel

Tourism is one of Israel's main sources of income. The largest group of visitors are American Jews. But, there are also many American Christians who want to visit the holy shrines and to see the land of 'God's Chosen People'.

These Christians come away very impressed and filled with religious fervor.

While in Israel, Jews and Gentiles alike are carefully watched so that they do not stray and happen to see the sordid side of Israel -- the true Israel.

Like in Soviet Russia and other communist countries, visitors to Israel are taken on carefully planned guided tours. They are shown the religious sites, the universities, the lush orchards, the technical accomplishments, the arts, and to stir sympathy, they are taken to visit the Holocaust Museum. But, kept from the eyes of the tourists are the ghettos, the prisons where political prisoners, mostly Arabs and Sephardic Jews, are subjected to the most inhumane forms of torture. The tourists do not see the widespread crime activities and the corruption and cooperation between organized crime bosses and government and police officials.

The tourists do not learn of the true inner workings of Israel's Marxist/Fascist government; nor do they see Israel's Racism.

I met one American Tourist who couldn't help telling me about the wonderful religious feeling she had from being in Israel -- the Holy Land. I remarked to her, "Just try giving a Bible to a local Jew and you will see how much religion and religious freedom there is in Israel. If seen by the police, you will be arrested.

Regarding the Holocaust Museum, I cannot help but comment:

THE HOLOCAUST MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED -- IF --

1) If the Zionist leadership in Germany had not cooperated with the Nazis.
2) If the Zionists, world-wide, had not persuaded various countries to refuse to accept Jews from Germany. The Zionists in America persuaded President Roosevelt to shut the door and not allow Jewish refugees into America before the war when there was still a chance for Jews to leave Germany.

It must be added that many people, including Jews, question whether the Holocaust happened as portrayed by the Zionist propagandists -- at least not to the extent the Zionist claim.

Religion

The land on which the present state of Israel has been built, formerly Palestine, was once walked upon by Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Since Palestine was the site of many religious events and has many religious sites, it is rightfully referred to as the HOLY LAND. So, one would think that Palestine, now Israel, would tend to have an air of holiness about it.

When Palestinian Moslems and Palestinian Jews occupied Palestine, there was a religious aura. But, Since the Zionists took over the area and set up the state of Israel, it is one of the most sinful nations in the world where only 5% of the Jews are religious. It is interesting to note that who are strongly religious are Arab Moslems and Arab Christians who make up a small minority in Israel.

Israeli laws suppress all religion -- For instance, it is against the law to try and convert a Jew to another religion even if the Jew is an atheist or humanist.

A Christian is permitted to preach the gospel in a church building, but for the clergy or anyone to even tell one about teachings in the Bible outside the church building will bring a 5 years prison sentence.

For a Christian to give a Bible or religious article to a Jew will also bring a 5 years sentence. Even an act of kindness by a Christian toward a Jew, such as giving a gift of food, can be interpreted as trying to convert the Jew to Christianity and can bring a 5 year prison sentence.

This same law of religious suppression applies to those of the Islamic faith who in an act of kindness give a gift of any kind to a Jew. A 5 year prison sentence can result.

The treatment of religious Jews is touchy for the ruling Zionists. World-wide, Jews and non-Jews view Israel as a land where Jews may practice their religion without persecution. Therefore, the Zionists do not dare risk suppressing Judaism for fear of arousing world opinion against them. So, the ruling Zionists merely tolerate the religious practices of the small minority of religious Jews in Israel.

God's Chosen People

The American people have been led to believe that Jews are "God's Chosen People". This myth was started by a small group of Jews. A few Jewish leaders took excerpts from the Bible and interpreted them as "Chosen People". But, isn't it odd that it is not the religious Jews who claim to be "God's Chosen People". It is the atheistic non-believing Jews who claim that honor.

Leading the cry, "We are God's Chosen People" are the Zionist/Marxist (Ashkenazi) Jews who for political purposes chose Judaism and who don't have a drop of biblical Jewish blood in them.

One Israeli religious Jew said it well, "At one time we Jews were chosen by God to be his messengers. But, long ago we forfeited that right".

Anyone who has read the Bible with an open mind knows that God gave Jews of that time special favors. But, it was in the form of covenants. In these covenants were conditions -- the conditions were that God demanded the Jews obey His Word. Time after time the Jews broke the covenants. They rejected God and turned to adoring mammon. It doesn't take a biblical scholar to realize that long ago even the real Jews lost the right of being God's chosen people.

In comparing the degree to which the followers of the 3 major religions practice their beliefs, I make this observation:

Judaism -- Few Jews, Sephardic or Ashkenazi, are religious. This is true in America, in Israel and world-wide.

Christianity -- The Christians religion has felt the influence of Jewish meddling and infiltration (especially in America) resulting in confusion and bickering between the various Christian denominations. This has led to a 'luke-warm' attitude among most Christians toward their religion. There is evidence to prove that Jews, or one of their many fronts, have started many of the Christian denominations and thus dominate doctrine.

Islam -- Moslems, who follow the teachings of Islam, are by far the most fervent of the 3 major religions in following their religious beliefs.

The Judeo-Christian ethic we hear so much about in America is a big joke -- the result of an intense Zionist propaganda campaign.

I'll toss in one last thought about the "God's Chosen People" myth: God said, 'Beware of those who call themselves Jews and are not, for they lie'. Could it be the Ashkenazi Jews are the people to whom God was referring?

Israel Stirs Perpetual War

In the Holy land, it would seem that there would be peace. Instead, war and preparation for war is ever present. The Israeli military machine is recognized as the fourth most powerful in the world. From the standpoint of the amount of planes, tanks and other fighting equipment, plus the fact that it is of the latest design, does make the military machine of Israel very powerful. But, in the army, serious weaknesses have developed.

Before exploring the weaknesses of Israel's army, let's briefly review each of the wars in which Israel has been involved -- an average of one every 8 years since it became a state in 1948.

1948 War -- Just after Israel had declared itself a state, Palestinians and other Arabs attacked the Israeli Army which had been formed out of the terrorist groups, the Irgun and Stem Gang. The reason for the attack by Palestinians was to try and regain their homes which, through murder and terrorism, the Zionists had confiscated. The Palestinians had been a peaceful people and were not trained in the art of warfare, while the Ashkenazi Zionist Jews who had migrated from Soviet Russia, Poland and Germany had more knowledge of tactical warfare.

In addition, Zionists had built up a large amount of arms which they had purchased from the U.S. and communist countries and had illegally smuggled into the area. The Arabs were defeated and in the process, Israel conquered more Palestinian territory.

1956 -- Egypt owned the land through which the Suez Canal flows. Egypt's President Nasser declared his intention of taking over operation of the canal from England. This would have hurt England's colonial empire. So, England along with France and Israel conspired to attack Egypt.

With Egypt nearly subdued, America's President Eisenhower stepped in and ordered England, France and Israel to withdraw. At the time, the United States was still militarily strong enough to back Eisenhower's order, so England, France and Israel did withdraw. This was the only time during U.S.-Israeli relations that a U.S. president put the interests of America ahead of Israel's interest.

1967 War -- Tension was mounting between Egypt and Israel over territory located between the two countries -- the Sinai and Gaza Strip.

To help Israel get an unfair advantage, the Soviet Union resorted to trickery: Soviet diplomats in Egypt told President Nasser to threaten war but not attack. Then Soviet diplomats told Israel's leaders to threaten war and then go ahead and attack. This act of treachery enabled Israel to attack while Egypt was 'off-guard' and destroy Egypt's military capacity in 6 days.

It has been the goal of Israel's leaders to take over all the land between the Nile and Euphrates Rivers. Besides the Sinai and Gaza Strip which Israel intended to take from Egypt during the war, they desired the West Bank which was part of Jordan, and the Golan Heights which was part of Syria. So during the 1967 War, Israel resorted to trickery.

Israel had the technical equipment to intercept radio messages and change these messages (boil them) and then send them on to their destination. During the war, Israel intercepted messages from Egypt to Jordan and Syria and changed the messages, tricking Jordan and Syria into entering the war. The Arab countries were defeated and Israel took a big step toward it's goal of conquest by occupying the Golan Heights and the West Bank as well as the Sinai and Gaza Strip.

Even though Israel's attack on Egypt is called the 1967 War and often referred to as the Six-day War, it can hardly be called a war. Egypt, the most powerful Arab nation at that time, didn't have a chance to fight. Trickery on the part of the Soviet Union and Israel as I have explained, rendered the so-called 1967 War nothing more than a treacherous act of terrorism for which the Soviets and Israel are famous.

For part 2: h ttp://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2006/10/06/the_life_of_an_american_jew_in_racist_ma_2

 

[Cutlerzzz]

I never have advocated murder. I only advocate what is according to Islam. People who convert out of Islam and become any other religion, are not considered to be a part of that religion, only apostates. So therefore there are not 'Christians' according to Sharia, just apostates.

There are laws against treason. They commit treason in an Islamic state, they face the consequences, just like in any other state.

In your mind:

Committing Treason in a country that is not yours + Trial = "Wanting to kill" or "advocating murder"

While American Christians go on killing Muslims daily in their own countries without any trial and you have nothing to say against that.

Now let's compare the two situations here.

There's some "pastor" in Iran who "converted" from Islam to Christianity in Iran, which is a crime punishable by death. The "pastor" was tried and is now awaiting execution.

Then there were infants in Iraq, who were summarily shot by foreign US troops. No trial for the infants. Can you tell me what crime these infants committed against the wonderful US government?

If you have a problem with Sharia, then you have a problem with Muslims. Lucky for you haters, America is killing Muslims on a daily basis without any trials (which you get under Sharia) so be happy about that.

None of the Iran haters has answered this:

When did the US ever hold a trial for any of the Muslim children it has killed?"

I wonder if I will ever get an answer.

So yes, you support murdering anyone who converts away from Islam. You're a barbarian.

 

[KingNothing]

So yes, you support murdering anyone who converts away from Islam. You're a barbarian.

Man, I genuinely have liked ExPatPaki. If the poster really does support that complete nonsense, I'll do a 180 on my stance.

 

[KingNothing]

A little more history that is long overlooked.

First of all, there are different types of Jews. The actual Jews who lived peacefully with Palestinians and Arabs for centuries are in fact persecuted today by the communist, atheist Jews who have claimed the land for their own this century. A simple search would go a long way to understanding what has happened in the last 100 years or so.


On Nov. 4, 2003, Reinhard Günzel, a brigadier general, who was head of Germany's Special Forces (KSK), was given a "dishonourable" discharge from the army's services. He was fired because he wrote a letter to Martin Hohmann (MP, CDU), who recently went on record about the Jewish role in Bolshevik Russia; and the General applauded Mr. Hohmann's statements.

Hohmann then made this known to the press, who in turn had a field day.

However, there is one thing that the press mysteriously overlooks. What was said is true.

Isn't it almost "funny" how the TRUTH has become anti-Semitic. I mean, it's an actual FACT here that we're talking about: Jews were behind the Russian revolution. This is not some outlandish statement. It should not be considered anti-Semitic, yet it is.

Jews openly bragged about the Russian revolution and its aftereffects at the time. They gloated. They were the financiers--from Warburg to Jacob Schiff (whose great-grand son recently married Al Gore's daughter, oddly enough). They were the revolutionaries--from Apfelbaum, to Zinoviev, to Molotov, to Trotsky (Bronstein), to Lenin (Ulyanov), etc. They were the bloodthirsty horde in the NKVD who later became the KGB, led by Kaganovich and Berija, who were responsible for liquidating untold millions of innocent Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians etc.

And, now Jews say, "Who, us? No, Jews had nothing to do with it. You're just anti-Semitic for saying such things."

Even those Jews who might still be alive and who took part in the massacres afterward now deny the massacres had anything to do with Jews. Even though anti-Semitism became a crime punishable by death after the Russian revolution, Jews now say that they were "persecuted." Even though the churches burned while the synagogues were left standing, Jews deny that they were protected. Even though priests were murdered or forced to sweep the streets, while rabbis were put on a pedestal, Jews now say they were the ones persecuted.

There is only one thing that we can conclude from all this: Truth is anti-Semitic.

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/perpetrators1.htm


The Execution of

Tsar Nicholas II, 1918

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nicholas.htm


Winston Churchill described the tumultuous years between 1918 and 1933 as a period of 'formidable transformations'. Germany, defeated in a war not of its own making, was laid prostrate by defeat, revolution and anarchy. Communist revolutionaries eager to capitalise on their overthrow of the Russian state seized power. A British Government White Paper estimated that the Royal Navy's blockade on Germany "caused nearly 800,000 deaths, mainly women and children." Vast tracts of German territory were seized as booty and claims for reparations were so draconian that they effectively turned every German into a slave of the victors.

With the Kaiser (king) in exile, the Workers and Soldiers' Soviets and the Social Democrats 'dismissed' the legitimate Ebert government and proclaimed a Soviet Republic. Armed bands of communists (Spartacists) led by Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebnecht, patrolled the streets. In Bavaria, another Jew, Kurt Eisner had declared the province a Soviet Republic. Soldiers returning from the front were massacred, revolutionaries seized state property and strikes designed to cause maximum damage to the staggering economy were organised. Barracks and naval dockyards were seized and street barricades divided Germany's cities and towns into politico-criminal fiefdoms.
The French occupied the Rhineland and ruled with an iron fist. An ordinary German passer-by might be randomly picked out and smashed to the ground with a rifle butt or fist. The French attempt to separate Bavaria from Germany sparked Adolf Hitler's brave but futile November Putsch.

The Saar and the Rhineland were occupied by French troops; inflation soared out of control until there were 136,000,000 Deutsch Marks to the dollar. Decadence erupted in sleaze. Art was debased as were the German people. Child prostitutes of both sexes could be bought openly on the streets. The world's debased were quick to take advantage of the German nation's descent into the economic chaos of defeat and revolutionaries fought like jackals for the territorial remains.

The peace terms (Versailles Treaty); dictated by the victor nations and notorious for its monstrously unjust nature was heaped upon this volcanic social upheaval.

"The greater part of our troubles is the result of World War I and the bad treaties which ended it." (Alfonso of Bourbon and Orleans. Great Grandson of Queen Victoria)

"Germany suffered most as a consequence of this Peace Treaty and the general insecurity which was bound to arise from it. The unemployment figures rose to a third of the number usually employed in the nation, which means, however, that by counting the families of the unemployed as well there were 26 million people in Germany out of a population of 65 millions faced by an absolutely hopeless future." (Adolf Hitler)

In Russia, the Bolsheviks had seized power. The geographical giant on Germany's eastern borders was locked into civil war, the brutality of which knew no bounds. The tentacles of the emerging internationalism of Communism were spreading like wildfire throughout Europe.

"Germany, with more than 6 million communists was on the verge of a catastrophe which none but those wanting in common sense can possibly ignore. If red terrorism was to have swept over Germany the western countries of Europe would probably also have realised that it is not a matter of indifference to them whether the outposts of a destructive Asian world power stand guard on the Rhine and on the North Sea, or whether the land is populated by peaceful German peasants and working men whose only wish is to make an honest living and to be on friendly terms with other nations. By averting this disaster which was threatening to ruin Germany, the National Socialist movement saved not only the German people, but also rendered the rest of Europe a service of historical merit. The National Socialist revolution has but one aim; To restore order in our own country, to provide work and bread for our starving masses and to lay down the ideas of honour, loyalty and decency as being the basis of our moral code, which, far from doing harm to other nations, can be for the benefit of all." (Adolf Hitler)

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/witness1.htm#3

Is this post anti-Semitic, or just completely ridiculous?

You realize that you're repeatedly lumping all Jews together, right? Even those who were communist and hated religion? And those who played absolutely no role in the Soviet Revolution, or any other negative event? You realize this would be like criticizing all Christians for any deplorable act one in that flock perpetrated? That's an insane position to hold.

And you quote someone who said that the National Socialist "saved" German from disaster. Riiiiiiiight.

You probably deserve a neg-rep for the post.

 

[pcosmar]

Is this post anti-Semitic, or just completely ridiculous?

Any time someone here uses the term Anti-Semitic,, without understanding the meaning of the word (and who created it and why) the deserve a Neg Rep.

 

[KingNothing]

Any time someone here uses the term Anti-Semitic,, without understanding the meaning of the word (and who created it and why) the deserve a Neg Rep.

Should I have said "stupid, bigoted, and Jew-hating" instead to be more accurate?

 

[pcosmar]

Should I have said "stupid, bigoted, and Jew-hating" instead to be more accurate?

NO.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?330008-Some-History

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

There are people that claim to be Jews.. They are not and they cause the hatred for Jews.
They created Zionism.
Zionism is not Judaism.
http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

 

[ClydeCoulter]

ROFLMAO, derailed thread is derailed.

This went from what do you think of this man, to arguments about governments, religions, history, etc.....

edit: I kinda like him, BTW.

 

[Carlybee]

Dislike. Why would I like someone who supports treating women like dogmeat? Also don't care for Netanyahu. I am an equal opportunity disdainer.

 

[pcosmar]

ROFLMAO, derailed thread is derailed.

This went from what do you think of this man, to arguments about governments, religions, history, etc.....

edit: I kinda like him, BTW.

Well.. It did show the total ignorance of some posters here.

The man is NOT a dictator. he has no power and makes no policy.
He is simply a spokesman.

The mis-quotes have been exposed for the media propaganda that they are.

Sadly,, even in light of much evidence some still chose to believe lies.

I would like to sit down with the guy and talk.. He strikes me as intelligent and likeable.
Doubt I would even have that chance.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Dislike. Why would I like someone who supports treating women like dogmeat? Also don't care for Netanyahu. I am an equal opportunity disdainer.

Okay, since the thread is derailed anyway.

I have a daughter and a wife that would love to stay home and take care of their children, homeschool, housekeep, etc..

Why can't they?

Well, there are several reasons. One, that's hard to do while the "invisible hand" is in your wallet devalueing the value of everything you try to save as well as future earnings.

Yes, the PTB love the idea of both parents working and having a career and all. They can have their "invisible hands" in two wallets.

Also, there is the disrespect shown for the housewife and mother who doesn't have a career. No, you don't think so? Ever watch TV? The average person is getting just the right propanda showing you can't trust her at home you better send to her work and don't let her be idle, etc., etc., etc.

So, you think Iranians disrespect their women?

Maybe our women are respected more as they are called all kinds of pet names which show just what part of the body is wanting to do what to what part of their body? Maybe they are respected as they are made fun of when they get excited after working all day and night accomplishing something only to be told the next morning during that excitement by those men coming to work, "What, you get some new curtains or something".