Voter Fraud Conspiracies

And when the headlines tomorrow read "Ron Paul Challenges NH Race" how many more "lunatic" articles are going to pop up?

I completely understand the anger. It makes me angry, too. But now is NOT the time.

Yes, Ron Paul is running for president NOW, so NOW is obviously not the time :rolleyes:
 
With all due respect, I know when to look at the big picture. 31 votes in NH ain't the big picture. Neither is wasting $67,000 on a recount to prove we were still not #1. That $67,000 is better spend on a shit load of radio ads in the next state. Freedom is definitely worth defending, but you have to have priorities and you have to be able to see the forest for the trees. I respect your opinion. I don't think I've resorted to name calling and insults on this thread, so I won't start now, but you really didn't add any logical discussion to your argument.

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Anybody that does not think that voting fraud is a major issue is an idiot.

Go get a computer science degree, then you will see how easy it is... Unfortunately many people operate on "if I havent experienced it, then I dont believe it"

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ON A COMPUTER!!!!!

If you give me 30 seconds with your computer I can upload software that will let me own you.

That's right, I can then go back to any computer in the world, and control your computer from my computer.

With the right software, ANYTHING is possible. Why people dont listen is beyond me...

If you think you know it all, then I know you dont. Only stupid people think they know everything.
 
Yeah, well a lot of us have been trying to bring this issue to people's attention for years. Now we have a situation where the system is still broken, and will probably continue to be throughout the primaries.

I will say though, this shouldn't all fall on Ron Paul. The headlines should read, "Voter's Nationwide Denounce Electronic Voting Machines and Demand Transparency".

Maybe a group of people who want to pursue it could set up a committee, work together, collect money, get other campaigns involved like obama, edwards, etc, and file for a recount as a citizens bi-party recount. Then it wouldn't reflect on any particular candidate, and you could even let them know that you decided to do it after finding 31 votes for Ron Paul on the floor of a polling booth, left behind.

Then the ones who aren't interested can move on to the next state.

What do you think?

Sounds like you have enough people who want to work with you.

But, tomorrow am you have to find out the filing deadline, or you won't be able to do it at all.
 
Sam Adams posted 137 posts in less than a day. He sticks to only one subject: Don't mention voter fraud- others are watching. He appears to ignore his own warning by repeatedly bumping his own thread creativly titled: Voter Fraud Conspiracies and others with negative titles.

Now... what are the signs the admin gave us of troll behavior?
 
Sam Adams posted 137 posts in less than a day. He sticks to only one subject: Don't mention voter fraud- others are watching. He appears to ignore his own warning by repeatedly bumping his own thread creativly titled: Voter Fraud Conspiracies and others with negative titles.

Now... what are the signs the admin gave us of troll behavior?

Frank is everywhere on this board.
 
Sam Adams posted 137 posts in less than a day. He sticks to only one subject: Don't mention voter fraud- others are watching. He appears to ignore his own warning by repeatedly bumping his own thread creativly titled: Voter Fraud Conspiracies and others with negative titles.

Now... what are the signs the admin gave us of troll behavior?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Are there any admins here right now?
 
go away Please move to another country

For those of you claiming voter fraud, seeing images of Satan in the numbers, etc....

Why would you want to go bitter this early in the campaign?
Why give the press more ammunition to beat us over the head with?

A recount MIGHT move us into 4th place, but that's unlikely. So, do you want the media ABSOLUTELY REAMING Ron Paul for demanding a recount when we were tens of THOUSANDS of votes short of first?

Please, move on. Focus on the issues and spreading the word. Right now, all you're doing is making this campaign look like a bunch of bitter loonies are in the crowd.


go away Please move to another country....if any of put up with this we deserve what we get
 
Ron Paul shouldn't challenge the results. The voters should. We should start a chipin on this site and on Obama sites. This is a non partisan effort by we the people to stamp out voter fraud.
 
Yeah, lets address the fraud after the 50th state.:eek:

These unethical, politically motivated, lying, cheating thieves SHOULD BE HUNG FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE REPUBLIC. Thats the people if you dont understand.

THE BUCK MUST STOP HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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For those of you claiming voter fraud, seeing images of Satan in the numbers, etc....

Why would you want to go bitter this early in the campaign?
Why give the press more ammunition to beat us over the head with?

A recount MIGHT move us into 4th place, but that's unlikely. So, do you want the media ABSOLUTELY REAMING Ron Paul for demanding a recount when we were tens of THOUSANDS of votes short of first?

Please, move on. Focus on the issues and spreading the word. Right now, all you're doing is making this campaign look like a bunch of bitter loonies are in the crowd.


"Even vote fraud is not beyond these people."
-- Ron Paul

http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/01/message-from-ro.html
 
You posted the link, but I will post the whole message; it's great reading, still waters run deep:

"January 10, 2008

Did you see that funny YouTube where Mike Huckabee's young Iowa
spokesman endorsed me, "by mistake"? We know what was in his mind! Indeed, I
am amazed at the friendliness of the supporters of other candidates.

Many Obama voters, for example, in Iowa and New Hampshire are reading our
literature, and studying our ideas. It's just one of the reasons I am so
optimistic about what we are doing, and where we are heading. And so
were the 500 or 600 people at our New Hampshire rally after the primary. I
talked to everyone there, and they are rightly enthusiastic about our
movement.

This does not mean we will have an easy time of it -- just the
opposite, of course. After all, we are seeking to reverse more than a century
of big government, of the warfare-welfare state, of Federal Reserve's
dollar manipulation, of a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the
subversion of our Constitution. So all the media and other "second-hand
dealers in ideas," as F.A. Hayek called them, who have a vested interest
in the current order, will do everything possible to smear me. They
will do and say anything to try to block our movement. Even vote fraud
is not beyond these people.

And we have been successful. This movement has always operated on two
tracks -- intellectual and political, and must. The first and most
important is the intellectual. Such heroes of freedom as Ludwig von Mises,
Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, and so many others like Rose
Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Isabel Patterson, and Garret Garrett, have
helped build the foundations of freedom, prosperity, and peace. We carry on
their work, to change hearts and minds.

The other track is political. Here too, we have touched millions with
our ideas, and recruited many, many thousands -- not only in Meetup
Groups and as voters, but as sympathizers and future voters too. Walter
Block was kind enough to call this effort the most important in the long
history of libertarianism. I don't know about that, but I do know that even
if we place a solid fourth, rather than the higher place we all want
and are working so hard for, that is huge progress.

But we can never forget that this is a long struggle. Many great men
and women have lived and died in this cause. I have been deeply involved
in it all my life. It is a matter of educational work, and elections.
We may not accomplish all we want, in one or even two elections. But we
will accomplish it. Young people now living will see the free society
that you and I dream of, as their everyday reality, an America at peace,
prosperous and free, with the federal government chained down y the
Constitution, as Jefferson said.

Does this mean our campaign has done everything right? No! We have made
mistakes, and will make them again. Not only because errors are to be
found in any human endeavor, but because an effort like this, to repeal
a hundred years and more of evil, is brand-new on the face of the
earth. But now is the time to stick together like the brothers and sisters
we are, to stand side by side in this fight against the media toadies,
warmongers, and Wall Street rip-off artists who stand against us, and
who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs.

If you have suggestions for me to do better, I want to hear them. But
beating back the enemy, teaching so many young people and others about
liberty, that is our victory, and it is real and permanent. Won't you
link arms with me? We will have more vote victories too, if we stick
together and do not let the enemy divide us.

As you know, and as our neocon enemies try to cover up, we are in a
financial crisis. It may chug along at this pace, slowly into recession,
or it might drop off a cliff, like the dollar. In that case, we will
have the only coherent solution, and we must get our message out.

All my life, I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done
its work, and the special interests had looted the system to their
hearts' content, and there was a crisis, I would be in a position to speak
the truth about why, and what to do about it. In this fight, I need
your heart, your mind, your time, and your financial support. I also
need you to become a precinct leader https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ .
What a fight we are in. What stakes there are. Together, we can build a new America faithful to
the values of the framers. Bother the enemy, help the good cause: make
your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/,
and let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, together.

Sincerely,

Ron"
 
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