Vindicated? Sarah Palin Mocked In 2008 For Warning Russia Could Invade Ukraine

[cajuncocoa]

That video is leftist propaganda. It is absolutely and indisputedly edited. The original is also on YouTube. She did not say that Iraq was a task from God. She said that they should pray that Iraq was a task from God.

It is absolutely discouraging to see anybody in this movement touting that as real. That is the depths to which the left will sink, and how wonderful that we are helping them.

LOL. Nothing anyone says about Sarah Palin will have any effect on the Liberty Movement.

 

[AngryCanadian]

LOL. Nothing anyone says about Sarah Palin will have any effect on the Liberty Movement.

I think some our members here are pretending to be libertarians, the way they debate on foreign policy even when they insult other members it just makes pretty clear of an theory wouldn't you agree?

Meant no offense, of course.

 

[erowe1]

Partly vindicated, but not completely, because the most important reason her comment was so stupid was that she thought the POTUS should interfere in either case. I remember McCain taking the wrong side of the South Ossetia issue and going there claiming to speak on my behalf, saying, "We are all Georgians now." And I remember Palin quoting that line with approval.

 

[69360]

Russia has every Right to defend her People in Ukraine how would you feel if the fascists or Neo Nazis take over several areas in your city?
Would you bow down and accept them?

The war mongers on BraitBart comment section are idiots they should have voted for John McCain.

What people? If there are Russian citizens in the Ukraine they can return to Russia. Otherwise this is an internal problem that Ukrainian citizens will have to deal with.

 

[eduardo89]

I am a Palin fan, but hearing that she would actually prefer that we send American troops over there to keep Russia from getting involved in what could turn out to be a Ukrainian civil war doesn't give me warm fuzzies.

I love seeing one strong beautiful woman defend another strong beautiful woman.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I love seeing one strong beautiful woman defend another strong beautiful woman.

It didn't sound like a strong defense to me.

 

[angelatc]

Nice to see and spot on here NeoCons pretending to libertarians.


Like with McCain the majority of the Republicans will still defend him as much as they defend Sarah Palin. And no that video isn't propaganda.


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
I am sure God doesn't mind how Christians are treated by Sarah buddies in the Gulf Regime states to.

Look, Canuk, the video is absolutely and entirely edited. Instead of looking for something to back you up, why didn't you take a hint and go look for the original video, which is actually on YouTbe and proves this video was absolutely, albeit disjointedly edited to make her say something she didn't.

Here is the whole, unedited video. Start at 3:15. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7-1TGmwdK4

I even transcribed it for you: "Pray for our military men and women, who are striving to do what is right for this country, that our leaders... our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That is what we have to make sure that we are praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is from God."

The liberals cut out the first part of the speech, and released only the 15 words that came after the ellipsis. And you fell for it, but you'd rather cling to it than admit you were had.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Look, Canuk, the video is absolutely and entirely edited. Instead of looking for something to back you up, why didn't you take a hint and go look for the original video, which is actually on YouTbe and proves this video was absolutely, albeit disjointedly edited to make her say something she didn't.

Here is the whole, unedited video. Start at 3:15. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7-1TGmwdK4

I even transcribed it for you: "Pray for our military men and women, who are striving to do what is right for this country, that our leaders... our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That is what we have to make sure that we are praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is from God."

The liberals cut out the first part of the speech, and released only the 15 words that came after the ellipsis. And you fell for it, but you'd rather cling to it than admit you were had.

Just save it ok? Your NeoCon stances is showing again, its clear some Americans on pretending to be libertarians haven't learned ANYTHING YET FROM IRAQ Nor the Balkans.

Its as if your heads are stuck in the 1960s. Not all Americans mind you, but with the exception few 0f them.

You might as well just say that Russia is your actual Enemy.

 

[AngryCanadian]

What people? If there are Russian citizens in the Ukraine they can return to Russia. Otherwise this is an internal problem that Ukrainian citizens will have to deal with.

And you pretend to be Americans right? the majority of American Citizens arent even Americans. The majority of them are Europeans whom after WW1 and during the foundation of America.

Bringing some German pioneers.

Its ironic some seeing members like you defending the fascist protesters in Kiev. I guess you NeoCons and them make a great couple.



You might as well side with the terrorists in Syria.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Some of you in here not all argued with me that you no longer dont want to intervene into other countries, but judging by the several posts i had seen here and elsewhere it doesn't seem that way.

If its Russia defending her interests or her people then you would argue its time for action! (Obama is a Coward for not ordering Nukes) but if its Syria you avoid it of course this might due because of Obama but i am quite sure if it was Romney the one intervening into Syria you NeoCons wouldn't be complaining.

Much like Iran the new Iraq.


If you want to disprove me wrong with some actual arguments go on, i will be waiting for a reply from you then.
But dont give me the excuse of a post with the one of left vs right debate.

 

[69360]

And you pretend to be Americans right? the majority of American Citizens arent even Americans. The majority of them are Europeans whom after WW1 and during the foundation of America.

Bringing some German pioneers.

Its ironic some seeing members like you defending the fascist protesters in Kiev. I guess you NeoCons and them make a great couple.



You might as well side with the terrorists in Syria.

I don't care what citizens of Ukraine or Syria do. I don't have a side. It's not my business. If they aren't bothering my country I don't really care, it's an internal situation in their country.

 

[AngryCanadian]

I don't care what citizens of Ukraine or Syria do. I don't have a side. It's not my business. If they aren't bothering my country I don't really care, it's an internal situation in their country.

Are you now deflecting from your earlier post?

If there are Russian citizens in the Ukraine they can return to Russia. Otherwise this is an internal problem that Ukrainian citizens will have to deal with.

I am quite sure the Fascist Ukrainians will handle it quite well. With armed spiked bats and armed weapons like we had seen in Kiev protests.

 

[Ender]

And, who is supporting the rebels in Ukraine?

I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[eduardo89]

And, who is supporting the rebels in Ukraine?

Soros, CIA, and other agitators.

 

[matt0611]

I didn't quote her, I was making a smart ass comment. Get yourself a cup of coffee and shake off the morning grouchiness.

Fair enough

I don't actually care very much, I'm no Palin fan I'm just a nitpicker at times

 

[69360]

Are you now deflecting from your earlier post?

No. What part of not my problem don't you understand?

If these people feel they want to be Russian citizens go to Russia.

If they want to break away from Ukraine and join Russia fine and dandy.

This does not concern the US or me as a US citizen in any way, it's not a security threat to the US, there are no US interests at stake. I don't want my government to do a damn thing in Ukraine.

 

[69360]

double post

 

[enhanced_deficit]

That video is leftist propaganda. It is absolutely and indisputedly edited. The original is also on YouTube. She did not say that Iraq was a task from God. She said that they should pray that Iraq was a task from God.

It is absolutely discouraging to see anybody in this movement touting that as real. That is the depths to which the left will sink, and how wonderful that we are helping them.

I'm not sure if I understand your point, this has been widely reported and Palin has never disputed this. This same quote published in USAToday as is in that video:


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.
Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.
"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-09-03-1664664500_x.htm



If you have any video that shows that her words have been edited to change the meaning of her statement, please share.

To try to frame an invasion (of a country that did not attack us) based on lies, revenge, greed, blood thirst, war profteering that resulted in killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians and over 100,000 US soldiers/killed/maimed/disabled as a "task from God" is not a sign of a healthy mind. If she asked others to pray that bloodshed mayhem of Iraq war was a "task from God"... that puts her in even worse llight than just simple religious fanaticism of saying that "Iraq war is a task from God".

 

[Mini-Me]

I can't quite tell whether this is a joke, though it appears you are serious. "Her" people? What are you talking about? "Russia" isn't a mother defending her children. It is a psychological construct with which some gangsters operate in accord. Like any other "nation", it is a script for a grand play that is often made up as the actors go along. It's not real. The people are real. The tanks are real. The butchery and all manner of criminal stupidity are real. But "Russia" is not, save in one's mind. Therefore, I am making you aware of the fundamental cognitive blunder that has lead you to make this profoundly misguided statement.

I will also note that "Russia" is not defending "her People". If you knew the least thing about the last 100 years of their history, you would know that the Russians are, statistically speaking, the most savage people on the planet second only to the Chinese, both of whom make the eternally reviled Hitler look like a choir boy. And if you will retort that they are not savages in the face of their having butchered at least 60 millions of their own people in a mere 3 decades, then no such thing exists anywhere in the universe. "Russia" is doing what "Russia" has done in the not-so-distant past: arrogating to itself that to which it has no just claim. In the 1917 revolution they took the Ukraine by force as they did with all the other territories. They starved millions of Ukranians to death shortly thereafter when Stalin took the reins. They took Poland, Hungary, and so forth by military force immediately after WWII.

"Russia" transplanted "her People" into the Ukraine against the wishes of the people who held rightful historical claims to that place, and they did so with great and murderous brutality. Now you claim the defense to which "Russia" is purportedly rushing as being somehow legitimate. This has got to be a joke and you should say so even if you have to lie because anything otherwise is worthy of naught but scorn and ridicule, serving only to assassinate yourself in the eyes of those whose brains are being made use of as more than shriveled hat racks.

Politically speaking, "Russia" is a homicidal maniac with but the Chinese to surpass it.




The Ukraine is not a city and it is not in "Russia". It is an area to which "Russia" holds less than zero legitimate claim. I say less than zero because "Russia" is in huge debt to the Ukranian people on many accounts, the murder of millions among them. A more criminal government than that of "Russia" does not exist on the planet. The NAZIs, when compared with the brutish "Russia" were like lovely and beautiful and saintly men. Russia literally robbed Ukraine of food and other resources such that the Ukranians perished horribly and en-masse.

When the "Soviet Union" mysteriously vanished in 1989, which is to say the directors of the stage play called "Soviet Union" decided the script would not be continued and the actors would no longer be forced to act the parts of "Soviet comrade", the ethnic Russians in Ukraine had a choice before them: remain Russian by withdrawing to "Russia" or become Ukranian by staying put. This is a simple and obvious truth. Those who chose to remain are no longer Russian in terms of political affiliation. They are de facto Ukranians, their Russian ethnicity notwithstanding. If you disagree with this, do not complain to me because I did not make up these idiotic rules, nor did I conceive of the dangerously idiotic notion of the "nation state", nor do I approve of any of it. But if we are to be saddled with this bullshit, then what is good for the goose is damned well going to be good for the gander. On this I will compromise nothing.

Having chosen to remain, what Ukranians do to/with their own people is as much an internal affair of "Ukraine" as the disposition of Russians by "Russia" is "Russia's". Again, these are not my rules, but at least in such conversations as this I will tolerate no hypocritical bullshit as that which is implied here by your statement, inadvertent as it may possibly be. Clarity is virtue and I aim to be clear where others are carelessly less-than.

And what of the Ukranians in Russian territory? "Ukraine" holds the equal right to march into "Russia" and slaughter Russians in defense of "her People". Where does this bullshit brand of "thinking" lead? It should take you no time to figure that out, assuming an IQ above the single digits, which I am confident is the case here.

"Russia", along with the rest of the "nations" needs to STFU, GTFO, and start behaving "itself" as an adult rather than as a dangerously pathological child who, on a bad tear, has managed to get into dad's liquor cabinet and the gun safe while the grown-ups were away.



If "Russia" landed troops on the shores of Suriname, I would do nothing. Not my business. I might not agree with the action, but would leave "Russia" to its devices. Were they to do the same in Canada, it might be different because it could be reasonably taken as a clear and present danger to us, were the Russians to secure a beachead in our own backyards. That is a purely strategic calculation and has nothing to do with ethnic, or any other issues. If "Russia" went into Suriname to cleanse it of expat Americans, I would do nothing. If you don't want to be cleansed, leave.



They may be warmongers, but how are you any better in this apparently serious defense of Russian aggression against the sovereign nation of "Ukraine"? Your claim of "defense" is non-credible on its face. The only thing they are defending is the script.

Epic post.

 

[klamath]

I'm not sure if I understand your point, this has been widely reported and Palin has never disputed this. This same quote published in USAToday as is in that video:


Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.
Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.
"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-09-03-1664664500_x.htm



If you have any video that shows that her words have been edited to change the meaning of her statement, please share.

To try to frame an invasion (of a country that did not attack us) based on lies, revenge, greed, blood thirst, war profteering that resulted in killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians and over 100,000 US soldiers/killed/maimed/disabled as a "task from God" is not a sign of a healthy mind. If she asked others to pray that bloodshed mayhem of Iraq war was a "task from God"... that puts her in even worse llight than just simple religious fanaticism of saying that "Iraq war is a task from God".

She answered this in post 27.