Vicente Fox gets confronted on North American Union

Nice guy that says individualism is bad because its being selfish, still a respectable man for being honest and frank.
 
Fox is not evil. He campaigned on a libertarian platform and won. He couldn't follow through with most things because the majority of the Mexican Congress was divided between the dinosaur Priistas, the socialistic Perredistas, and the faction of Panistas that is authoritarian.

His talk of integrating NA and the immigration issue were the only really negative things about him.

Keep in mind also that he was threatened with his life over signing a bill that would have legalized drugs in Mexico. That is why he vetoed it at the last minute...even though a few days before he said he would sign it.

I like Fox....but I hate his support for a NAU. As an idealist I think he believed that he would be able to steer it into a libertarian direction....including the free movement of peoples.


No Fox hating please. Feel free to shit on Carlos Salinas Gortiari and Felipe Calderon. They are the evil proponents of the NAU!
 
Nice guy that says individualism is bad because its being selfish, still a respectable man for being honest and frank.

Individualism isn't selfish - it's a necessary part of being human. I bet you can't find one psychologist who would tell you it's better to give up completely to authority and take no personal meaning from the world.

But if you're the one who is having people throw their lives in your hands, I guess I could see how you would think people not following you is selfish.
 
He normally says that to refer to the corruption and stealing. Unfortunately in other cultures....theivery and corruption are often tied to individualism. Fox supported individual initiative.

Individualism isn't selfish - it's a necessary part of being human. I bet you can't find one psychologist who would tell you it's better to give up completely to authority and take no personal meaning from the world.

But if you're the one who is having people throw their lives in your hands, I guess I could see how you would think people not following you is selfish.
 
That is how you approach a politician. Too many people think interrupting these things while screaming is the way to go. He got a little hot, but did a pretty good job. Gotta look out for those tazings. AJ is way more confrontational than this kid, thats why he gets shut out so easily.
 
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His talk of integrating NA and the immigration issue were the only really negative things about him.

They are probably not viewed as negative by those that voted for him, so in that respect, he's probably done a top-notch job.

The only one's that will have issue with it should be the Americans, for it is American taxpayers that will have to bear the burden.
 
Wow... I don't see how anyone could claim that the North American Union is just a "conspiracy theory" with so much blatant evidence like this.
 
Get this video on CNN Ireports!

see if u can get this vincent fox video up on cnn's ireports. :cool:
 
This is such a dumb thing.

They confront him in a public meeting with probably the most lopsided question they could give him. What they should have done is ask him plainly about the idea of a North American Union and implementing that through the SPP and NAFTA. Instead they talk about some existing plan they have no proof of and talk about doing it without public approval. They come as wackos and then they talk to him when there's hardly anyone and only after a long time of confrontational language do they actually get to a calm reasonable question.
 
How of that cilp needed to be edited out - you know, that part that showed them Tasing this guy and dragging him out of the auditorium ? ??
 
Individualism isn't selfish - it's a necessary part of being human. I bet you can't find one psychologist who would tell you it's better to give up completely to authority and take no personal meaning from the world.

But if you're the one who is having people throw their lives in your hands, I guess I could see how you would think people not following you is selfish.

Uh that was a quote of Vicente Fox.
 
Fox is not evil. He campaigned on a libertarian platform and won. He couldn't follow through with most things because the majority of the Mexican Congress was divided between the dinosaur Priistas, the socialistic Perredistas, and the faction of Panistas that is authoritarian.

His talk of integrating NA and the immigration issue were the only really negative things about him.

Keep in mind also that he was threatened with his life over signing a bill that would have legalized drugs in Mexico. That is why he vetoed it at the last minute...even though a few days before he said he would sign it.

I like Fox....but I hate his support for a NAU. As an idealist I think he believed that he would be able to steer it into a libertarian direction....including the free movement of peoples.


No Fox hating please. Feel free to shit on Carlos Salinas Gortiari and Felipe Calderon. They are the evil proponents of the NAU!

Did the drug lords want him assasinated because he would of threatened their oligopoly?
 
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