US goes to war with Iran

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[acptulsa]

Dubya ran on a promise of "no nation building" too. You just have to be old enough to remember that, because you can't google it. Googtoob doesn't host videos of those campaign promises.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Actually, Russia is the grand prize. But once they have Russia, China will be in the way too.

Apparently, China is front and center now.

Fox News had a "former" IDF spokesman on today saying that Iran is just a proxy for China.

Fox Business right now is going on about ties between Iran and China.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Meh. Trump responds to energy. If you don't want him to do something, the bigger a tantrum the better.

He brings this on himself by being that way. He's stirring people up. Everyone can see the power poised to assist Iran if we fuck around here. And Trump cultivates an aura as just the type to do it.
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Powers to assist Iran? Fox News (and via an IDF spokesman) is already pushing that Iran is a proxy for China. And on Fox Business, they are talking about all of the ties between Iran and China.

They are planning past Iran...

 

[acptulsa]

Powers to assist Iran? Fox News (and via an IDF spokesman) is already pushing that Iran is a proxy for China. And on Fox Business, they are talking about all of the ties between Iran and China.

Yeah, RT says China and Russia are conferring over this. They certainly have common interests. I don't know why Fox is singling one of them out, unless it's because few of their viewers have any use for China but Putin has a certain amount of respect among America's right wing.

 

[nikcers]

Yeah, RT says China and Russia are conferring over this. They certainly have common interests. I don't know why Fox is singling one of them out, unless it's because few of their viewers have any use for China but Putin has a certain amount of respect among America's right wing.

They have been reporting that China has been shipping the materials into Iran to make the weapons they are attacking Israel with.

Russia is also pretty busy right now with their war in Ukraine. NATO has ramped up arms shipments they just stopped announcing it.

Iran was previously selling arms to Russia so if Iran is busy with their own war they arent going to be doing that anymore.

Russia is so busy that they had nothing extra to send to Syria to stop Assad's government from collapsing to the rebels.

So the idea is that China could send troops and arms.

Since a lot of the tech inside Iran is already Chinese and China has already done a "soft" invasion of Iran.

A few years ago China even created a law that authorized deploying the PLA to secure access to oil. This means China could deploy troops to either Russia or Iran.

 

[familydog]

I don't know, and probably still wouldn't even if I watched it. Sometimes I enjoy watching the guy, but more often I don't. All I know is Trump doesn't play chess. He plays football without pads. He plays rugby.

He may play like a drunken monkey, but he can play. He can tell when a significant portion of the American public will gang tackle his ass if he runs that direction. More than Biden could ever say.

I don't think Trump cares about any particular influencer. He knows they're all heavily outnumbered by the influenced. And in this case, the consensus of We, the People clearly says hang Bibi out to dry. No, he doesn't want to end up a recluse like Dubya, afraid he'll be spit on if he shows his face in public at the Trump Plaza café.

Yes, agreed on all points. I would also add that he isn't impulsive when it comes to actions. This is why he is essential to American revivalism. He has preferences, but he isn't an ideologue. If he was, the US would be in a full-scale hot war at this point.

 

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Fuck you.

 

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[Snowball]

1967 - Nov. 27, when President Charles de Gaulle of France publicly described Jews as an “elite people, sure of themselves and domineering” and Israel as an expansionist state. "Israel is overstepping the bounds of necessary moderation.”

1982 - President Francois Mitterrand told the Knesset today that the position of France in the Middle East is predicated on Israel’s fundamental “right to live” but it is a right, he declared, which cannot be denied to the Palestinians. They cannot be expected to give up this right, he asserted.

Mitterrand’s address to the Knesset, the highlight of his three-day visit to Israel which began yesterday, summarized both the point of his trip here and the course his Socialist government can be expected to follow in the Middle East. He came to Israel to end the coolness, often bordering on hostility, which had characterized France-Israeli relations during the administrations of Charles de Gaulle and his successors.

At the same time, he emphasized that while France does not presume to preach to the nations of the Middle East which must work out their own solution, he believes the Palestinians must be given a homeland.

1996 - French President Jacques Chirac began a controversial visit to Israel with a call on the Jewish state to accept the creation of a Palestinian state and give the Golan Heights back to Syria.

"All the current troubles in the world are because of that shitty little country, Israel." - Daniel Bernard, former French Ambassador. to the UK and Algeria at a private dinner party, December, 2001.

The French ambassador to the United Kingdom has landed himself in hot water after referring to Israel as a "shitty little country" that threatens the world with a third world war.

May 2025 Israel on Friday accused President Emmanuel Macron of undertaking a "crusade against the Jewish state" after the French leader said the recognition of a Palestinian state was a "moral duty"

Today: Macron's comment about Israeli aggression vs. Iran

“No one can seriously claim that current military operations are a response to this [nuclear] threat.”

Macron urges return to nuclear talks with Iran

French President Emmanuel Macron has warned that Iran’s nuclear programme poses a growing risk and called for immediate diplomatic efforts to regain control over it. "Iran’s nuclear programme is a threat, and there can be no complacency on this matter," Macron said in Paris on Friday.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Snowball]

Israel is still not allowing foreigners to leave the country via air until sometime Monday, they say.

Lammy said the UK will begin chartering its own flights out of Israel rather than depend on El Al.

He says UK will send planes for passengers to pick them up as soon as Israeli air space is opened.

Meanwhile, EL Al Airlines says they are only flying Israelis (Jews only) back home this weekend from other countries.
They claim 50,000 Israelis abroad are clamoring to come home.

The US Embassy also is not helping Americans leave.

It's latest statement about this today says "We have no announcement about assisting private U.S. citizens to depart at this time."

sources: The Independent UK, Times of Israel, US Embassy Israel website.

 

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[nikcers]

Israel is still not allowing foreigners to leave the country via air until sometime Monday, they say.

Lammy said the UK will begin chartering its own flights out of Israel rather than depend on El Al.

He says UK will send planes for passengers to pick them up as soon as Israeli air space is opened.

Meanwhile, EL Al Airlines says they are only flying Israelis (Jews only) back home this weekend from other countries.
They claim 50,000 Israelis abroad are clamoring to come home.

The US Embassy also is not helping Americans leave.

It's latest statement about this today says "We have no announcement about assisting private U.S. citizens to depart at this time."

sources: The Independent UK, Times of Israel, US Embassy Israel website.

They don't stop people from crossing into Jordan to fly out.

They just closed their airspace for the most part because they can't guarantee their safety because they are shooting down thousands of missiles and drones.

 

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[Snowball]

She is not the Ambassador to the UN. She is only filling in until Waltz is confirmed.
.. and by the looks of this bio, it may have been intentional what she said.
Dorothy Camille Shea

 

[Occam's Banana]

It's breathtaking how fast he went from "we" to "you".

 

[vita3]

That's an understatement.

They have killed 18 Iranian nuclear scientists

Orthodox Jews don't respect anybody else on this planet, but themselves.

 

[Voluntarist]

In late March, Gabbard said that the US intelligence community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003.”

When asked about the stance of his spy chief by journalists on Tuesday, Trump replied: “I do not care what she said.”

‘I don’t care what she said’ – Trump dismisses Tulsi Gabbard’s Iran claims

Iran was “very close” to obtaining a nuclear weapon, US President Donald Trump has said

www.rt.com

Today (per Newsweek)

"The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division," Gabbard wrote. "America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly. President Trump has been clear that can't happen, and I agree."

 

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Today (per Newsweek)

Tulsi...

I am disappoint.