UPDATE: Women have a RIGHT to FREE contraception.

[wannaberocker]

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. You can see it as an insurance policy. You can`t blindly trust that everything will work out perfectly. Life is full of surprises.

It is full of surprises. Which is why trust is earned not automatically given. I dont automatically trust women, the woman i end up with would have earned my trust. But i also understand that once i give her my trust, i would be vulnerable to being hurt by her. That is a chance ill be willing to take because without trust you cant enjoy life or a marriage.

 

[JuicyG]

None of what you just wrote describes a Christian man.

Confession without repentance and reconciliation does nothing to forgive any sin.

Since you like Jack Nicholson, here is good scene which fits our current topic.

House wife abused by alcoholic:

 

[awake]

Sure, women have a right to buy contraception with their own money out of their own pockets.

 

[wannaberocker]

Since you like Jack Nicholson, here is good scene which fits our current topic.

House wife abused by alcoholic:

She hit him with a baseball bat. WOuldnt that make her the abuser and him the victim?

BTW you seem very much set about what men are like. It sort of seems like you speak from past experience.

 

[JuicyG]

She hit him with a baseball bat. WOuldnt that make her the abuser and him the victim?

I thought someone would mention it as a joke, but you`re not joking are you?

BTW you seem very much set about what men are like. It sort of seems like you speak from past experience.

I`m not a woman, sorry to disappoint. I`ve seen friends`n families going on through all sorts of issues, same as most people have. You probably have too. Everyone has.

 

[wannaberocker]

I`m not a woman, sorry to disappoint. I`ve seen friends`n families going on through all sorts of issues, same as most people have. You probably have too. Everyone has.

Your not a woman yet you seem to present men as some vile creatures who cannot help but abuse helpless women. Truth is yes iv known women who were abused by their husbands. But iv also known husbands who were put through hell by their wives and yet these men stuck around. Crazy thing is i knew a guy who's wife got her 3 brothers to beat the living daylights out of her husband. Abusive women also have ways.

Generally speaking women are not some helpless doves and men are not vile creatures.

 

[wannaberocker]

I thought someone would mention it as a joke, but you`re not joking are you?

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I was joking yes. forgot to type LOL at the end.

 

[iGGz]

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[eduardo89]

You find me one of those and I'll give ya 50 bucks

I think some of you live in a fantasy world

No one is free from sin, but I know plenty of married men who have never beat or physically abused their wives, who strive to live by the word of God and when they sin against their wife they repent and seek her forgiveness as well as the forgiveness of Christ.

 

[DamianTV]

You find me one of those and I'll give ya 50 bucks

I think some of you live in a fantasy world

Try India. I think these people do exist, but largely not in the US. India for example, as well as many middle eastern countries, have practically zero respect for women. If anyone has been watching any sort of news in the last year, remember their big protests about having Women Driving? How do we think they get treated at home?

 

[donnay]

That`s sexist. Women can be providers same as men.

A woman who has no source of income is very dependent on the man, and that`s not very wise. Very often this brings them depression, isolation and abuse. They have no means to fight abuse without a source of income. It basically puts them in a corner, in a place from which they can`t fight back. They can`t even divorce as they have no income of their own, so they have to put up or shut up. A woman who who enters this type of existence is a (edit: potential)victim of her own making.

Color me victim #2. I too, have a wonderful husband who provides well for his family. Our house is built on rock, and a solid foundation with Christ at our core.

I always aspired to be a homemaker--that is my job and I do it well.

Juicy my dear, you have been duped by the Rockefeller Foundation's propaganda agenda. It was this very foundation that gave us the feminists movements, not because they wanted to foster independence for women, but because they wanted another income to tax and to break up the family unit. That's how the elites divide and conquer.

 

[speciallyblend]

women have a choice when the cage is open. They can sit in the cage or go outside of the gage .some perfer to close the door to the gage and sit inside even if the door is open. women are equal to men as individuals are equal!

 

[JuicyG]

Try India. I think these people do exist, but largely not in the US. India for example, as well as many middle eastern countries, have practically zero respect for women. If anyone has been watching any sort of news in the last year, remember their big protests about having Women Driving? How do we think they get treated at home?

You misinterpreted his post. He was saying you won`t find people who fit that ideal scenario Eduardo described and that you have to live in a fantasy world to believe it.

Color me victim #2. I too, have a wonderful husband who provides well for his family. Our house is built on rock, and a solid foundation with Christ at our core.

I always aspired to be a homemaker--that is my job and I do it well.

Juicy my dear, you have been duped by the Rockefeller Foundation's propaganda agenda. It was this very foundation that gave us the feminists movements, not because they wanted to foster independence for women, but because they wanted another income to tax and to break up the family unit. That's how the elites divide and conquer.

Let me ask you this. What do you do when you want to buy something? You go ask your husband for approval? Do you get a fixed allowance or how does that work exactly?

 

[donnay]

women have a choice when the cage is open. They can sit in the cage or go outside of the gage .some perfer to close the door to the gage and sit inside even if the door is open. women are equal to men as individuals are equal!

We are equal in the sense we are human and we need air to breath, food and water to live. The only cage around us is government, if you allow government to lock you in, it's by your choice not anyone else.

 

[otherone]

Let me ask you this. What do you do when you want to buy something? You go ask your husband for approval? Do you get a fixed allowance or how does that work exactly?

You've never been married, obviously.

 

[JuicyG]

You've never been married, obviously.

I`m not and never will get married. I don`t believe in marriage.

I`m in a relationship for more than 10 years actually, but we both make our own money and we don`t ask each other for approval when it comes to buying something. This is the beauty of having financial independence. If my girlfriend wants to go on a perfume shopping spree or cleaning products or hell knows what else, I can`t stop her, same as she can`t stop me if I want put my income aside and invest it or buy whatever stuff.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

You misinterpreted his post. He was saying you won`t find people who fit that ideal scenario Eduardo described and that you have to live in a fantasy world to believe it.



Let me ask you this. What do you do when you want to buy something? You go ask your husband for approval? Do you get a fixed allowance or how does that work exactly?

i'll answer this one: i'm better at budgeting and keeping track of our finances, so i do all that, which is an agreed-upon arrangement. my husband and i have also both agreed upon a budget together. we also have agreed upon a set amount that if we stay under it, we don't need to seek the others opinion and are free to make the purchase. and *gasp* it works.

probably because this, and everything in my marriage is based upon trust and mutual respect which has at its center love.

and someone owes eduardo $50. i do not claim that my husband is perfect, no man is. we sometimes sin against each other in word/thought/deed, and quickly seek reconciliation (he is faster at seeking reconciliation than i, which inspires me). anyway, he has a love for Christ that cannot be shaken and it permeates every aspect of his being-- including his love and care for me.

 

[specsaregood]

I`m not and never will get married. I don`t believe in marriage.

I`m in a relationship for more than 10 years actually, but we both make our own money and we don`t ask each other for approval when it comes to buying something. This is the beauty of having financial independence. If my girlfriend wants to go on a perfume shopping spree or cleaning products or hell knows what else, I can`t stop her, same as she can`t stop me if I want put my income aside and invest it or buy whatever stuff.

Don't look now but I think you are already in a marriage.
http://www.google.com/#q=definition+common+law+marriage

I think all liberty lovers should avoid govt marriages.

 

[donnay]

Let me ask you this. What do you do when you want to buy something? You go ask your husband for approval? Do you get a fixed allowance or how does that work exactly?

It depends on what it is I want to buy. If it's a large ticket item like a car or house I would certainly talk it over with my husband. I do not need his approval, nor does he need mine. It's a mutual respect, and personal responsibility that is key here. I emphatically trust my husband. He is my best friend, I can talk to him about anything, and vise-versa. Marriage is not something to take lightly--it's a commitment; it's a bond; it's a united front. I have never wanted for anything. His job is to work for someone to acquire FRN's and my job is to hold down the homefront and provide him with the comforts of home, and sanity from the outside world.

Oh, one more important aspect is, neither of us are shallow, materialistic or vain.

 

[JuicyG]

Don't look now but I think you are already in a marriage.
http://www.google.com/#q=definition+common+law+marriage

I think all liberty lovers should avoid govt marriages.

In France, for example, people have a second option "en concubinage"(about same legal benefits as being married but without the strings attached) and even a third legal option.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ntraception.&p=4188724&viewfull=1#post4188724