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Is that what you believe? That there are no dead children?
TX - 21 Dead, Dozens Injured in Texas Elementary School Shooting
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Is that what you believe? That there are no dead children?
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Policy (official or unofficial) ... maybe.
Training ... not so much ...
(Hut-hutting around is all fun and games until the live ammo starts flying.)
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1530361942673543168
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No. What I believe is that the US Media are proven liars. Switch off your searching-for-the-next-Alex-Jones circuits for a moment and actually read what I wrote for comprehension. How the hell can I have any substantial opinion about "what really happened" in Uvalde when I have zero reliable information? By zero, I mean zero. The Boy Who Cried Wolf is informing me in no uncertain terms that there's "really, REALLY" a wolf this time, and he even has cell-phone footage of the wolf... but so what, he's a proven liar. Maybe there really is a wolf. Maybe not. It's all the same to me. Proven liars are liars and I'm not going to jump through the flaming emotional circus-hoops anymore. Not until the ring-master is dragged out into the sunlight and hanged, for real.
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That woman deserves a medal of honor and a key to the city immediately. She saved more lives than every single one of those cops in their entire careers.
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Policy (official or unofficial) ... maybe.
Training ... not so much ...
(Hut-hutting around is all fun and games until the live ammo starts flying.)
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1530361942673543168
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Yep. No amount of training and bravado talk overcomes human nature. No one knows how they will react once the shooting starts. Not the police, not the Monday morning arm chair quarterbacks. It's the rare individual that will rush into direct fire danger. Parents will do that for their offspring. They literally have skin in the game.
Securing a perimeter is much safer. It takes a rare individual with initiative to rush in there. It takes a leader. And apparently, the ranking leader in this case said don't go into the room. Once that decision is made, human nature says "good, it's on him". It makes it OK not to go in. Just following orders of the "leader" at that point. It took a new leader (Border Patrol SWAT leader), to actually breach the room.
There is going to be a lot of PTSD among those cops that didn't go into the room. I predict at least one suicide will come of this. They are already throwing some people under the bus. The person who made that call will never recover from this.
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Just a reminder about the meaning of "FAKE NEWS":
May 28, 2022 Independent: Ukraine news – live: Russia has depleted its modernised equipment, military analyst says
Now, switch on your gray splatter for a second and ask yourself this: how likely is it that Russia has "depleted" its "modernized equipment"? What the hell even is "modernized equipment"?! Does Russia not manufacture brand new, modern military equipment? Or are they still wrenching on 1970-model T-72s, trying to order spare parts from somewhere in Belgium and cursing the heavens in a vodka-induced rage when the parts are "blockaded" by NATO? Seriously? I don't trust Putin any further than I could throw a Russian T-90 tank, but he's not an idiot. The idea that the Russians are pinned down and frittering away their tanks or troops on a rum-headed land invasion of Ukraine is utter nonsense. The entire narrative is obviously fabricated out of whole cloth, nothing about it is real or true at all. Not one bit of it!
So, now ask yourself this: Why should anyone believe anything at all that is reported by the same media that has been repeatedly proven to lie and stage false-flag events on domestic soil, and which is CURRENTLY lying its face off about "the war in Ukraine", to the point that even a young child can work out that they're blatantly lying to you -- right there on their official MSMBS.com websites? Why is anything they say believable?
"Oh, you're just exaggerating. Yes, the news might be biased at times, but they're not making things up or suppressing events that actually happened. That would be impossible because they'd get caught." Well, suit yourself...
DW - Fact check: Fake news thrives amid Russia-Ukraine war -- Manipulated photos, false statements, state propaganda and deepfake videos are all part of the war between Russia and Ukraine. We debunk some examples and show how to spot the deception.
The very thing they're doing... they explain it in detail, and pin it on "the other side". Read the whole thing and try not to vomit. I dare you...
May 28, 2022 Independent: Ukraine news – live: Russia has depleted its modernised equipment, military analyst says
Now, switch on your gray splatter for a second and ask yourself this: how likely is it that Russia has "depleted" its "modernized equipment"? What the hell even is "modernized equipment"?! Does Russia not manufacture brand new, modern military equipment? Or are they still wrenching on 1970-model T-72s, trying to order spare parts from somewhere in Belgium and cursing the heavens in a vodka-induced rage when the parts are "blockaded" by NATO? Seriously? I don't trust Putin any further than I could throw a Russian T-90 tank, but he's not an idiot. The idea that the Russians are pinned down and frittering away their tanks or troops on a rum-headed land invasion of Ukraine is utter nonsense. The entire narrative is obviously fabricated out of whole cloth, nothing about it is real or true at all. Not one bit of it!
So, now ask yourself this: Why should anyone believe anything at all that is reported by the same media that has been repeatedly proven to lie and stage false-flag events on domestic soil, and which is CURRENTLY lying its face off about "the war in Ukraine", to the point that even a young child can work out that they're blatantly lying to you -- right there on their official MSMBS.com websites? Why is anything they say believable?
"Oh, you're just exaggerating. Yes, the news might be biased at times, but they're not making things up or suppressing events that actually happened. That would be impossible because they'd get caught." Well, suit yourself...
DW - Fact check: Fake news thrives amid Russia-Ukraine war -- Manipulated photos, false statements, state propaganda and deepfake videos are all part of the war between Russia and Ukraine. We debunk some examples and show how to spot the deception.
The very thing they're doing... they explain it in detail, and pin it on "the other side". Read the whole thing and try not to vomit. I dare you...
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The brave cops restrain a man on the ground. Possibly a bad disobedient parent that told them that they had to do something against the shooter inside the school.
Bystanders yelling that the cops must let him go.
Bystanders yelling that the cops must let him go.
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The media don’t have to be trustworthy for us to be able to know that there are some types of lies that they couldn’t possibly get away with. They just aren’t anywhere close to the realm of possibility. One of those is pretending that a school shooting happened where kids died if there really wasn’t one.
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Seems they got their hearts' desire.
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Yelling being all they did.
They should have beaten those cops to bloody stumps.
America's problem in a nutshell.
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To be fair, those cops are armed to the teeth. And there's a lot of them. Any attempt to "beat them to stumps" would have been resoundingly unsuccessful.
I get your point however and I agree with it in principle.
Perhaps the problem is the existence of cops itself.
A problem, which can be solved separately.
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A healthy amount of skepticism is absolutely necessary, but when you start wandering down rabbit holes much you end up in the same spot you started in, maybe it's best to stick to easily verifiable information. It's hard enough to get people to swallow that sometimes.
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For example:
The media is going to take advantage of this tragedy to push the anti-gun narrative. [many people can't even get as far as here]
versus:
'This whole thing was staged. '
'The parents aren't real, just paid actors. '
'Someone paid these officers to stand down.'
'The door was propped open by an insider. '
'The children never existed.'
'The school never existed.'
'Uvalde isn't even a real town!'
etc etc etc
[very few people spend time here, and probably go straight to writing you off as a nutter, TPTB know this, and are likely to start spitting out wild schemes into the mix just to discredit you]
Another example:
'Blowback' is a consequence of our meddling in middle east - Dr. Ron Paul
versus:
"Jet fuel doesn't melt steel"
"the WTC was rigged with explosives"
"a plane can't take down a building of that size"
"where is the evidence that flight 93 existed?"
"the cell phone calls to families were faked"
One of those is relatively easily verifiable, and rather logical on the surface (again people have a hard time even accepting the concept of blowback). If Ron Paul had come out on stage spitting out all the other stuff, I know I wouldn't have given him an audience (not back then anyways).
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For example:
The media is going to take advantage of this tragedy to push the anti-gun narrative. [many people can't even get as far as here]
versus:
'This whole thing was staged. '
'The parents aren't real, just paid actors. '
'Someone paid these officers to stand down.'
'The door was propped open by an insider. '
'The children never existed.'
'The school never existed.'
'Uvalde isn't even a real town!'
etc etc etc
[very few people spend time here, and probably go straight to writing you off as a nutter, TPTB know this, and are likely to start spitting out wild schemes into the mix just to discredit you]
Another example:
'Blowback' is a consequence of our meddling in middle east - Dr. Ron Paul
versus:
"Jet fuel doesn't melt steel"
"the WTC was rigged with explosives"
"a plane can't take down a building of that size"
"where is the evidence that flight 93 existed?"
"the cell phone calls to families were faked"
One of those is relatively easily verifiable, and rather logical on the surface (again people have a hard time even accepting the concept of blowback). If Ron Paul had come out on stage spitting out all the other stuff, I know I wouldn't have given him an audience (not back then anyways).
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