TX - 21 Dead, Dozens Injured in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Occam's Banana]

 

[Anti Federalist]

Steve Pieczenik Retweeted
classicalliberty @jsolom100

"I will not be lectured on gun control by a government that left 300,000 guns in Afghanistan for the Taliban."

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Steve Pieczenik Retweeted
classicalliberty @jsolom100

"I will not be lectured on gun control by a government that left 300,000 guns in Afghanistan for the Taliban."

Give that guy a +rep!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It's funny people constantly make the case that the Police have to wait for a rifle, otherwise they only have pistols. Whatever happened to shotguns? The Police used to always have shotguns in their vehicles. In a close quarters firefight, a shotgun is preferable to a pistol or rifle.

This is what a man looks like, children.

Father Used Barber’s Shotgun to Save Daughter During Texas Attack
...

There's a shotgun...

IDK about the “man” part, but that is what a parent would do. There were plenty of them outside volunteering to go in. This parent just had the benefit of being able to say he was law enforcement.

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1530299018189881347

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Here is the direct link to the Facebook page with the video (news website giving me paywall/ad issues).

^^^ TEXAS DPS DIRECTOR, LISTEN TO THIS PRESS CONFERENCE INSTEAD OF MSMBS/DC/FED LIES

There were as many as 19 officers on-scene within minutes after the shooting began. There was no "stand-down" order ever given. The MSMBS is feeding you LIES.

Early in the process, both the media and officials spread “lies”. The story from officials themselves have changed, no media necessary. Fog of war and CYA...

 

[pcosmar]

Don't fall for yet another WAG THE DOG, folks...

I'M an Ex-Con..Not inclined and actually resistant to this crap.

I was never a 'De-fund the Police" crowd, nor the Defend the Police Crowd.

as stated before,,Rethink before Reform.. The Concept of Police (control enforcers) is an Authoritarian Concept,,and has no place in a Free society.

And this Free Society did well without Police for a Hundred years before it was imported.

 

[pcosmar]

Early in the process, both the media and officials spread “lies”. The story from officials themselves have changed, no media necessary. Fog of war and CYA...

Yup,, the Handler was unceremoniously dismissed early on.

Catch and Release

 

[ClaytonB]

as stated before,,Rethink before Reform.. The Concept of Police (control enforcers) is an Authoritarian Concept,,and has no place in a Free society.

And this Free Society did well without Police for a Hundred years before it was imported.

OK, that's fine. I think that people have become culturally accustomed to police, so they don't understand what you would have in its place. But you're right that what we don't need are thugs living on the public dime, which is what many police departments have become, and even among many non-corrupt police departments, there are still networks of corruption that are too deeply entrenched for them to eradicate. States should be free to choose their own solutions at the State-level, counties employ the sheriff model which has deep roots in common law, and healthy local governments will choose the correct solution for their security needs, whether that be a publicly-funded police department, private security contractors, or some other arrangement.

What the D's are doing is, as always, so audacious as to be beyond description. If you commit crimes so heinous that no one would ever believe it is possible that such a crime could be committed, then no one will believe that such crimes are actually happening. And that's exactly what the D's are doing. They don't care about police corruption and they certainly don't want to eliminate their own corrupt cops. In fact, they shamelessly parade their police corruption in public view and then point to it as a reason to strip the rest of the country of their non-corrupt police. Let each State decide for itself how to do State-level security, let each county decide for itself how to perform the sheriff's function, let each local government decide for itself how to produce its security. This is not rocket-science and the founding fathers already built these local freedoms into the Constitution if we would bother to actually follow it...

 

[ClaytonB]

Early in the process, both the media and officials spread “lies”. The story from officials themselves have changed, no media necessary. Fog of war and CYA...

Really? That's what we're going with? This is a blatantly obvious Obama/Biden/DC/MSMBS PSYOP , and we're just going to accept any random cell phone footage as "proof" of "what went down", as though we have never heard of or seen photos of crisis actors at the Boston Marathon Bombing, Sandy Hook, etc. All of that stuff is now "crazy kooky conspiracy theory".

Not fog-of-war, PSYOP.

Not CYA, PSYOP.

Not police incompetence, PSYOP.

Wake up!

 

[ClaytonB]

Deep State: "Yo, libertarians! We gotta doggie treat called School Shootings Happen Because All Cops Are Bastards! Come and get it!"

Libertarians:

 

[nobody's_hero]

I usually don't comment on these mass shooting threads for several days because facts are always hazy things before the dust settles.

But self defense is an individual right and responsibility. If someone prevents you from exercising that right, then they are assuming responsibility, and if they fail, then they are going to be criticized. (of course we know that the courts have declared that responders have no legal obligation to sacrifice their lives or safety for victims, so basically the only remaining intent here is to leave you defenseless).

If I ran the justice system, any time a shooting like this occurred in a 'gun free zone' then a lawsuit would be launched against the establishment that declared it to be "gun free" when it obviously was not. At the very least, they'd be sued for false advertising.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Really? That's what we're going with? This is a blatantly obvious Obama/Biden/DC/MSMBS PSYOP , and we're just going to accept any random cell phone footage as "proof" of "what went down", as though we have never heard of or seen photos of crisis actors at the Boston Marathon Bombing, Sandy Hook, etc. All of that stuff is now "crazy kooky conspiracy theory".

Not fog-of-war, PSYOP.

Not CYA, PSYOP.

Not police incompetence, PSYOP.

Wake up!

There is no “we”. Freedom is about everyone having their own opinion. You can have yours, I can have mine.

But to the question, yes, I believe that the media can manipulate any tragedy or crisis, and not let it “go to waste”. I am no fan of the MSM in the slightest. That has no bearing one way or another on the actual, objective facts of the case, and the actual facts are almost always standard human nature rather than a complex, coordinated conspiracy (other than the standard leftist political agenda shared by both the media and Democrat politicians).

 

[Anti Federalist]

Really? That's what we're going with? This is a blatantly obvious Obama/Biden/DC/MSMBS PSYOP , and we're just going to accept any random cell phone footage as "proof" of "what went down", as though we have never heard of or seen photos of crisis actors at the Boston Marathon Bombing, Sandy Hook, etc. All of that stuff is now "crazy kooky conspiracy theory".

Not fog-of-war, PSYOP.

Not CYA, PSYOP.

Not police incompetence, PSYOP.

Wake up!

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

The stench of rot and decay coming off the corpse of this dying empire we live in drives many people insane.

Every day there is a case of somebody "breaking bad" and shooting up a joint.

Suicides, drug overdoses...all part of the problem.

The only "conspiracy" afoot is the fact that the Marxist media organs just wait unto the proper situation comes up.

 

[donnay]

 

[acptulsa]

 

[Anti Globalist]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1530299018189881347

If there is one thing that is consistent every time there is a major tragedy, it’s a press conference, with a huge group of politicians and officials, usually in their best dress uniforms, none of whom have first hand knowledge, solemnly telling us what happened, with all of the heads nodding in agreement. And it usually turns out to be wrong. But at least they all got their faces on TV, and each got their 30 seconds of fame.

 

[ClaytonB]

There is no “we”. Freedom is about everyone having their own opinion. You can have yours, I can have mine.

But to the question, yes, I believe that the media can manipulate any tragedy or crisis, and not let it “go to waste”. I am no fan of the MSM in the slightest. That has no bearing one way or another on the actual, objective facts of the case, and the actual facts are almost always standard human nature rather than a complex, coordinated conspiracy (other than the standard leftist political agenda shared by both the media and Democrat politicians).

Yeah, the "we" here was just rhetorical. But you're missing my point -- given that we know for certain that the MSMBS are the Boy Who Cried Wolf (FAKE NEWS), and given that this event was quite obviously timed to coincide with the NRA convention (and the MSMBS News predictably leveraged it for that political purpose), how do you "just know" that this event isn't 100.0% staged?? If there are no dead children at all, if there are no grieving parents at all, if this entire event is a manufactured FAKE NEWS event, then why all of the consternated looks and hand-wringing over this "tragedy"? In that case, the only tragedy is -- once again -- the psychological trauma being foisted on the American public by the American arm of the Soviet Pravda. In this thread, the "ACAB" participants are all predictably jumping on the bandwagon for their chance to take a dump on cops, without even considering the possibility that perhaps they're being led around by the nose by a propaganda machine which has already factored in their predictable responses to this event.

Conspiracy theory, I hear someone say? Don't use that word with me when we have caught the MSMBS in countless proven lies, not about minor details, but about "witness" personas, whole events, timelines, and everything else. Notice how the traitorous, Enemy of the People MSMBS is all locked onto "THE TIMELINE". What timeline? If this was a PSYOP -- and every indication is that it was a PSYOP -- then who's to say that the Uvalde police were not as much a target of that PSYOP as the rest of us?

I just don't understand how people flip in one thread from denouncing the MSMBS as the Enemy of the People, then the following day, they are lapping up every soundbite and every "clip" of "footage" from "parents" who were "held back" by "police".

NPCs walk among us?

 

[ClaytonB]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Sure, of course. When I step outside and it's raining, I know that the weatherman is certainly not spouting fake news. But that's not my point. In the case of rain, I know the weatherman is telling the truth because it's freaking raining. How are you suddenly "just knowing" that this is not yet another Fake News MSMBS PSYOP? I just want to know how you guys divine this stuff? Should I be using a water-witcher, or a crystal ball? What are the secret paths of divination by which folks here somehow "just know" that all these other events are fake, but this one event just happens to be completely real, no PSYOP whatsoever? The Boy Who Cries Wolf was just getting a laugh at our expense all those other times, but this time, there really was a wolf. How do you know that?

I don't trust proven liars whether or not they are telling the truth. This may be a 100% real event. Or it may be 100% fake. Or something more complicated. But I don't care. The MSMBS have already shot their credibility to sh!t, so I will not play along with the emotional manipulation any longer. And yes, that is tragic, because that means I just don't give a damn. Go see my thread on the darker side of darkness. The moment the Media started toying with FAKE news, they threw their own credibility out the window.

Until something changes, I'm not shedding another damn tear over anything I see in a news article or on the MSMBS FAKE news channels. If the karmic penalty for that is that nobody sheds a tear at my funeral, so be it. The lesson here is dead simple: PROVEN LIARS CANNOT BE BELIEVED WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH.

The only "conspiracy" afoot is the fact that the Marxist media organs just wait unto the proper situation comes up.

I don't buy that anymore. It is not just a pull-mechanism, it is a push-pull mechanism. No, it's not as simple and straightforward as all of the tinfoil-hat people believe. But it's intentional and it is driven for specific purposes, political and especially spiritual. This is demonic and that's the real reason you can't find "proof". Spirits are invisible and intangible.. they don't leave fingerprints.