Trump's Hate Speech Will Get You Deported EO

acptulsa said:
No, unless you're talking about what was done that wasn't illegal. If that's what you're talking about, then the reason you won't come out and say anything factual and useful is because this deportation has nothing to do with this alien assaulting Americans, and everything to do with politics.
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Bunk, they occupied buildings, damaged property, and interfered with others trying to make legal use of the facilities.
They also engaged in violence.
 
Swordsmyth said:
That op-ed is a red herring, and you don't get to declare it is the reason for the deportation.

But I did in fact respond to it:

> they also have no right to agitate for foreign causes or demand US institutions do anything.
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I don't see how that's an answer to my question. Are you saying that writing the op-ed is agitating for foreign causes, and therefore it does constitute a valid reason to deport Ozturk after all? If so, then you are declaring the op-ed is the reason for deportation.

If not, then what other agitation for foreign causes are you talking about? It sounds like when you say "agitate," that just means "express opinion," and you're just trying to make it sound like something other than what it is.
 
Invisible Man said:
I don't see how that's an answer to my question. Are you saying that writing the op-ed is agitating for foreign causes, and therefore it does constitute a valid reason to deport Ozturk after all? If so, then you are declaring the op-ed is the reason for deportation.

If not, then what other agitation for foreign causes are you talking about? It sounds like when you say "agitate," that just means "express opinion," and you're just trying to make it sound like something other than what it is.
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I'm saying the crimes are the reason, but that if the op-ed was the reason it would still be justified.
 
Invisible Man said:
What is your evidence that Ozturk did that?
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Ms Otzurk participated in pro-Palestinian protests as a legal US resident.
Code: 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrn57340xlo

Tufts said pro-Palestine protesters are escalating the conflict by bringing in outsiders and expanding the encampment, which is set up on the quad.
The university said protesters "have harassed and intimidated staff as they try to clean areas that were vandalized."
Code: 
https://www.wcvb.com/article/tufts-university-pro-palestine-encampment-expands-university-wants-protest-end/60660236

And regardless of what Tulsa and the other leftists think, trespassing and "occupying" private property is a crime by itself.
 
Swordsmyth said:
I'm saying the crimes are the reason, but that if the op-ed was the reason it would still be justified.
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What crimes are you talking about, and what evidence do you have that Ozturk committed them?

It's interesting, too, to see you go on the record saying that writing an op-ed criticizing Israel is by itself a valid reason to deport someone.

Can you quote a sentence from the op-ed that you think warrants that?
 
Swordsmyth said:
Ms Otzurk participated in pro-Palestinian protests as a legal US resident.
Code: 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrn57340xlo
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"Participated" meaning what exactly?

The existence of an article that says someone "participated in a pro-Palestinian protest" does not constitute evidence that this person occupied a building, damaged property, or interfered with anyone else trying to use any facilities. As far as I know, Ozturk hasn't been accused of any of those things by the Trump regime. Their excuse for deporting her is that she wrote an op-ed criticizing Israel.
 
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acptulsa said:
As I understand it, pitching a tent on a college quad and threatening to sleep in it.
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People have lit themselves on fire and burned themselves to death at these protests.

It's just a matter of time until something else happens that's why thousands have been arrested.

If that's just a camping trip to you im not going camping with you ever.
 
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acptulsa said:
And you think that keeps us all safe in our beds at night because...?
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The number of representatives per state is determined by the state's population in the house of Representatives.

It's simply the biggest democratic most Representative chamber of national government we have.

So when something gets significantly greater than 3/4's the vote 320–91 its considered our country's national consensus.

House of Representatives voted to broaden the legal definition of antisemitism to include anti-Zionism.

Our Representatives vote on things so we don't have a monarchy anymore.
 
Invisible Man said:
What crimes are you talking about, and what evidence do you have that Ozturk committed them?

It's interesting, too, to see you go on the record saying that writing an op-ed criticizing Israel is by itself a valid reason to deport someone.

Can you quote a sentence from the op-ed that you think warrants that?
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It's not a valid reason to deport someone in your description of the events.

An op-ed critical of Israel's government in war time that the United States is considered to be a belligerent in written by a foreign national that the United States government gave permission to study here is a valid reason to revoke that permission.

We don't need to underwrite and fund opportunities for foreign nationals to promote war propaganda and provoke terrorism on us soil.
 
nikcers said:
in war time that the United States is considered to be a belligerent in
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The bot just told us, folks. The Bill of Rights is invalid for as long as they can keep the string of proxy wars going.

Unless we tell them no, it isn't.
 
acptulsa said:
The bot just told us, folks. The Bill of Rights is invalid for as long as they can keep the string of proxy wars going.

Unless we tell them no, it isn't.
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It's definitely not a bill of rights issue because it's not law enforcement it's foreign policy.

Wars go on for thousands of years. That's how war works if you read the history books written by the winners of war.

This war isn't a proxy war. We have boots on the ground.

We have deployed multiple super nuclear aircraft carriers with bigger and more powerful airforces than entire nations and now 1/3 of our stealth bomber fleet.

We have troops shooting down missles in Israel with our most advanced missle defense system.
 
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acptulsa said:
The bot just told us, folks. The Bill of Rights is invalid for as long as they can keep the string of proxy wars going.

Unless we tell them no, it isn't.
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The BoR means citizens have a right to speak out against government policy, it may mean legal visitors also have that right.
It DOES NOT mean that foreigners here legally or illegally have a right to retain the privilege of being here afterwards.
Expelling them for agitating does not affect the BoR in any way.
 
acptulsa said:
*humans

You love slippery slopes, being a worshipper of authority and tyrants. I don't love them.
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The have their human right to protest in the country they came from, maybe. All foreigners visiting the US, legally or illegally, are here at the pleasure of the secretary of state. If he deems your presence here to be counterproductive to the US they can revoke your welcome here.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the BOR.

Hamas supporting lunatics are not welcome here, according to Rubio, and I wholeheartedly agree with that.
 
asurfaholic said:
All foreigners visiting the US, legally or illegally, are here at the pleasure of the secretary of state.
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The new one or Biden's?

There are illegals far more worthy if the president's personal attention. Like the rape gangs, for instance. A trespasser who criticized Israel isn't my priority. How did it become yours?
 
acptulsa said:
The new one or Biden's?

There are illegals far more worthy if the president's personal attention. Like the rape gangs, for instance. A trespasser who criticized Israel isn't my priority. How did it become yours?
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Any administration.

Trump is going after the illegals and violent criminals too.

It became a priority when they committed crimes and stirred up riots.
 
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