Trump takes the bait? How will Paul respond?

[kahless]

As far as actually helping Rand, I think this does nothing and maybe hurts him since he isn't going to win over Trump voters by attacking him and even if he succeeds in damaging the Trump brand those voters aren't going to go to Rand. They're going to go Ted Cruz or Ben Carson or Mike Huckabee or wherever, I think Rand would of been better off trying to position himself to scoop up Trump voters for when/if his candidacy blows up as Cruz is doing, The establishment and mushy moderates aren't going to support Rand as the "reasonable alternative" and it is dumb to even try, they have way more preferable options for themselves, they'll definitely utilize Rand tho, kills two birds with one stones by taking the blood off the hands for going after Trump and damages the Paul/libertarian brand with the rebelling segment of the GOP. Saves them the trouble of having their own establishment candidate getting put thru the ringer by Trump, why do you think they're all afraid to attack him?

Although most of Rand's statements on Trump last night were accurate, the strategy of Rand burning that bridge is truly mind blowing. He could have rode the anti-establishment wave with him and try to bring the Trump voters back into his fold, instead of what appears to the voter as positioning himself as a voice of the establishment.

Instead of talking about issues important to people last night he focused on attacking Trump to the point of repeating himself. He could have handled it like Huckabee and the others, get it out of the way first and move on to YOUR own campaign.

Rand is not giving the people the red meat they are looking for in these interviews that will send them back over to his campaign. Now he has the anti-establishment front-runner tearing him a new one like he is the Lyndsey Graham of the party.

 

[juleswin]

Trump was caught paying his audience in the beginning, too.

That's probably before he realized the these people do not even need to be paid to work for him. Don't care what you think about him, the man is the ultimate self promoter. Don King should take note.

 

[acptulsa]

Although most of Rand's statements on Trump last night were accurate, the strategy of Rand burning that bridge is truly mind blowing. He could have rode the anti-establishment wave with him and try to bring the Trump voters back into his fold, instead of what appears to the voter as positioning himself as a voice of the establishment.

Rand is going to fool people into thinking he's the voice of the establishment when the media spends all day every day either ignoring or slamming him?

You're not serious, right?

Trump united the party's children. Let Rand try to unite the party's adults. If he does, I think we all know which faction will win the nomination.

 

[AuH20]

Rand is going to fool people into thinking he's the voice of the establishment when the media spends all day every day either ignoring or slamming him?

You're not serious, right?

Trump united the party's children. Let Rand try to unite the party's adults. If he does, I think we all know which faction will win the nomination.

You really are losing it. Most of the party's so-called adults hate Rand Paul. Let me explain to you the landscape of the Republican Party. It's split in half between Republican loyalist/moderates and then the other half is filled with extremely anti-establishment individuals which run the gamut from Amish Mennonites to Libertarians. Rand just decided to drop a bomb in the lap of those actually sorta liked him.

 

[acptulsa]

You really are losing it. Most of the party's so-called adults hate Rand Paul. Let me explain to you the landscape of the Republican Party. It's split in half between Republican loyalist/moderates and then the other half is filled with extremely anti-establishment individuals which run the gamut from Amish Mennonites to Libertarians. Rand just decided to drop a bomb in the lap that actually sorta liked him.

But what you are forgetting is that there are members of both of those camps who are actually conservatives. And that's why when Christie said, 'Da fourth wut?' he drove a stake through his own heart.

And those conservatives will be your downfall, because neither Trump nor you are one of them.

 

[Liberty74]

I think Rand made a mistake going after Trump and predict he will lose this one.

Trump won't be around mush longer once people get over their honeymoon of him and realize their guy is crazy, vile, mean, not even a Republican and empty.

Trump will lose in the end. More people thought he LOST the debate than people thought he had won it.

 

[tmg19103]

Smart move by Rand. He is 8th in the polls. As the debates go on they will take fewer candidates and he has to stay in the debates so be needs to make a move now. These are the two anti-establishment candidates, and if Rand can outlast Trump, he will get a lot of his supporters.

 

[YoBabyYoBabyYo]

Somebody wrote on here that Trump will be very knowledgeable about Economics because he went to Wharton LOL. Give me a break, listen to this moron that is a Prof from Wharton @ 6:00 minutes in on this video. This lady has no clue what she is talking about.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump will very likely fade in the long run, his attacks will be more effective against Obama/Bush than Rand. Rand has far more staying power thanks to a political campaign built over long time and on substance.

I don't think Rand gains much from attacking Trump at this juncture but no way Trump can steam roll Rand Paul.

 

[surf]

yobaby, "velocity".... don't I remember that being part of Keynes effed up thinking?

Wharton and a bunch of other "top tier" schools produced a bunch of d-bags building "complicated" models that all failed spectacularly with a couple of missed payments on million dollar mobile homes.

 

[jkob]

lol party adults? Now you know that has been used against us for years now right? "The party adults" are NEVER going to support Rand.

 

[mit26chell]

I can't believe Trump is attacking Paul who is polling in low single digits, lmao. What a moron!

 

[acptulsa]

lol party adults? Now you know that has been used against us for years now right? "The party adults" are NEVER going to support Rand.

Not even if he continues to be the one who polls strongest against the Democrats? Not even if he rids the party of this clown that is embarrassing every Republican with a lick of sense? Not even if, in the process, he makes the children of the party see why their favorite red meat throwing, monkey poo flinging RINOs will always guarantee them a place in the loser's circle?

Do people favors that big and they tend to be impressed by you.

 

[Demigod]

But what you are forgetting is that there are members of both of those camps who are actually conservatives. And that's why when Christie said, 'Da fourth wut?' he drove a stake through his own heart.

And those conservatives will be your downfall, because neither Trump nor you are one of them.

You can't defeat Trump in politics because he has none.If he wants to fight him he must fight him on an emotional corruption/being a democrat without name calling.Many think that trump can't keep this up but he has a lot of establishment people to insult every night and it would at least keep his numbers steady.With 30% no one can touch him.

 

[AuH20]

I can't believe Trump is attacking Paul who is polling in low single digits, lmao. What a moron!

At least it's going to be entertaining.

 

[acptulsa]

And why would those sane conservatives pick Paul over Cruz or Walker ? the best things you can get as a result of fighting Trump they way Rand is fighting him is mutual destruction.And even if he beats Trump all his supporters would transfer to Cruz or the woman candidate.

Why wouldn't they? Who doesn't want a president with cojones enough to stand firm in the face of evil and fight it?

Since when do Republicans award the Heisman to a second string benchwarmer?

 

[jkob]

Not even if he continues to be the one who polls strongest against the Democrats? Not even if he rids the party of this clown that is embarrassing every Republican with a lick of sense? Not even if, in the process, he makes the children of the party see why their favorite red meat throwing, monkey poo flinging RINOs will always guarantee them a place in the loser's circle?

Do people favors that big and they tend to be impressed by you.

Didn't work for Ron and he was a much more exciting candidate. Snakes don't show gratitude, don't expect an ounce of it from the establishment because they will just as soon stick the knife in Rand if given the opportunity as they are with Trump. Remember Megyn Kelly tested that war on women "question" out on Rand to begin with. They HATE us, they hate us even more than Trump.

 

[YoBabyYoBabyYo]

Surf:Bang on my man, I love how listening to some moronic illogical left wing professor for years entitles people to sit on a high horse with a smug look on their face and spew out absolute garbage that makes no sense at all.

 

[Demigod]

Why wouldn't they? Who doesn't want a president with cojones enough to stand firm in the face of evil and fight it?

Since when do Republicans award the Heisman to a second string benchwarmer?

Firstly with this kind of attacks he is not even making a dent.Trump is going for nationalism and anger, the only way to beat that tactic is to either have an even stronger rhetoric or he makes a mistake and shows his true colors.Trump will always just insult him in response because he just does not care and in doing so put him self at minimal risk of saying something stupid on policy.No one is interested in hearing your reasonable plans when the guy next to you is yelling "build a wall,beat China,fuck the system"

Unless he decides that he does not wan't to be president,at this moment this is Trumps to win and as time passes people will only get more emotionally attached because of the attacks.

 

[acptulsa]

Depends on how completely he destroys him, and whether he uses a sense of humor in the process. And what good points he makes along the way about how the entire media--including the Controlled Opposition Division, a.k.a Fox--wants Republicans to pick The Biggest Loser.

In any case, he has started. There's no percentage in failing to finish what he started.