Trump: Massie should be primaried for voting no too many times

[nikcers]

Ill predict in a little over 3 yrs from now Massie will still be voting no w/ a dem for president, LOL. Massie is representing Kentuckians .

The president represents Kentucky too. That's why the presidential seal has 50 stars. Perhaps it will be 52 stars in a few years when Trump is serving his 3rd term.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[ClaytonB]

Love Massie. Trump's simply going to have to make up with Massie, like it or not. Not sure why his crack strategist team doesn't understand that...

 

[ClaytonB]

Representing We The People with your vote is NEVER a "protest" vote. I don't like the votes from some of the congressmen from California, New York, etc. but so what, if they are duly elected, those are the votes that the people who voted for them voted to have cast! Kentuckians are fed up with the national GOP's pretend were-sorry-not-sorry's and so are a lot of us around the country! The GOP needs to get the stinking message!! Change your ways or cease to exist!!! It's that simple!!!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Interesting. Donald Trump Jr. is backing a candidate for Senate in KY. Thomas Massie is a potential competitor. Coincidence?



So now we have 3 motivations for Trump to attack Massie:

1 - Pander to AIPAC.
2 - Intimidate other members of Congress to never disagree with him (Trump).
3 - To help their selected candidate win in the KY Senate race.

 

[jmdrake]

After endorsing Thomas in the last election Trump is back to hating him again and says he will "lead the charge" against him in the next primary. Whatever though, he doesn't mean half the things he says so hopefully this is no different. He will get a lot of pushback from conservatives is he does go down this road of trying to oust Massie. I wish he would just keep his mouth shut about Thomas in the first place and not encourage anyone to primary him.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114141533823019998

Trump can go pound sand. I logged in today just to post this.

 

[nikcers]

I think it's anti establishment politicians like Thomas Massie that got elected to oppose the liberal establishment that paved the way for Trump to get elected.

So now that the liberal establishment that was in power has been fully ousted from power Thomas Massie is fighting against the Frankenstein he created and he is the only Republican voting with the liberal establishment party he helped remove from power.

The six-month continuing resolution passed 217-213, with all Republicans — except Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky — voting for the bill

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The rescission plan:

Massie's point is, in part: how can we justify a spending bill that spends all the money DOGE identified as wasteful?

The president just got elected, and he has more influence now than he'll have in six months or at any other time in his term, so why not fight back now?

We keep getting told: now isn't the time to fight. Wait six months and we'll fight next time.

Now I understand if you youngsters haven't caught on yet, but there's no excuse for us oldsters, who should have figured out the trick by now: next time never comes. So you may as well fight right now.

David Stockman, director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, is suggesting: rather than just capitulate to the Democrats as usual, why not introduce a perfectly constitutional rescission package, clawing back some of the leftover spending, in order to get the budget at least partly under control, as a condition of approving any continuing resolution?

Why the hell not indeed?

Why simply cave, and then get angry at the guy who refuses to go along?

Stockman explains that the spending situation "is a consequence of the stacked institutional mechanics that Elon Musk is just beginning to grasp":

For example, the appropriations authority for every one of the hundreds, if not thousands, of idiotic foreign aid contracts that DOGE has exposed and cancelled must by law be recycled and re-spent on another contract. So the “savings” will be therefore be wasted on projects perhaps only slightly less stupid but in any case no less unaffordable.​

​

We are referring to the impoundment control act of 1974 and the passel of UniParty-appointed Federal district judges sitting out there across the land waiting to pounce in favor of lawsuits claiming funds are being illegally withheld by the executive....​

​

Fortunately there is a pretty creative hack.... To wit, as Elon Musk apparently discovered earlier this week the congressional rescission tool is a pretty good workaround to un-spend money that has already been appropriated.​

​

This method of cutting existing spending authority does require Congressional approval within 45 days, but rescissions are subject to an up-or-down vote with no amendments and no filibuster in the Senate.​

​

So what the DOGE team needs to do right now is bundle up a massive pile of rescissions and send them to Capitol Hill to be approved as a pre-condition for passage of the next CR. We think there is enough fraud, waste and abuse based budget authority lying around the Federal bureaucracy such that a massive $600 billion rescission package could be sent to the Hill within the next week; and it should rightly become known as “The Mother of All Rescissions,” or MOAR!​

​

The White House proposition to Congress would be simple. Either pass MOAR or shutdown the government when the current CR expires on March 14th. You choose.​

That's much better than just caving to the Democrats.

And what specifically would he ask for?

This:

• *Rescission of Leftover Pandemic Relief Appropriations at SBA and the Departments of Energy, Education, HHS, Labor and HUD: $139 billion.
• *Cancellation of Leftover Green New Deal/IRA funding: $317 billion.
• *Rescission of Wasteful Foreign Aid Spending: $30 billion.
• *6.9% Across-the board Rescission of FY 2025 CR Funding Levels for all Discretionary Appropriations: $114 billion.
• *Total Rescission Package (MOAR): $600 billion.

You won the electoral college, the popular vote, and all the swing states. Act like it! Criticizing Thomas Massie instead of following David Stockman's recommendation is an extremely sad move.

 

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul, through his unwavering commitment to constitutional principles and sound money, over 50 years, started this journey that we now find ourselves on. We would not be here right now, if not for him and few other lone men of principle and courage.

Starting a feud with one of the few honest men in DC over an atrocious spending bill and then trying to remove one of the most rock steady constitutionalists over it, and then the Supreme Grandstander having the nerve to call Massie a "grandstander" is absurd.

Why doesn't El Jefe' Anaranjado put this much effort into getting rid of people like Lindsey Graham or Lisa Murkowski?

You know the reason why. Trump only cares about one thing, loyalty. And lately Lindsey Graham has been tripping over himself to kiss Trump's butt. Even though Graham opposes Trump on a ceasefire in Ukraine, he PRAISED Trump for how he treated Zelinsky. Saturday Night Live explained Trump perfectly in this skit starting at 4:30 in. All it takes is a little flattery / butt kissing for people to get whatever they want from him. Thomas Massie is just VERY bad at butt kissing.

 

[CaptUSA]

Trump has learned a lot since 2016.

But Trump still doesn't quite get it.

This has the potential to divide his base.

This isn't about the base... This is about Trump's donors. The same donors that have been trying to get Massie out for years.

It's so damned transparent. Adelson and AIPAC will spend this country into its grave just to maintain control over the burial plot.

 

[jmdrake]

The rescission plan:

Thomas Woods is, of course, right. And so is Thomas Massie. And so is Rand Paul. And, I haven't seen a statement yet from Ron Paul, but I'm sure he'll agree as well. Trump's "DOGE cuts" are ALREADY being blocked in the federal courts and the Supreme Court did NOT side with Trump!

See: https://www.gzeromedia.com/news/wat...eign-aid-spelling-potential-problems-for-doge

So, the only way to make the DOGE cuts permanent is to do it through the legislature.

 

[nikcers]

Thomas Woods is, of course, right. And so is Thomas Massie. And so is Rand Paul. And, I haven't seen a statement yet from Ron Paul, but I'm sure he'll agree as well. Trump's "DOGE cuts" are ALREADY being blocked in the federal courts and the Supreme Court did NOT side with Trump!

See: https://www.gzeromedia.com/news/wat...eign-aid-spelling-potential-problems-for-doge

So, the only way to make the DOGE cuts permanent is to do it through the legislature.

I remember during the 2012 election the Ron Paul campaign was talking about when he gets elected he is going to fire half the government.

There was even an open mic video that went viral that said when Ron Paul gets elected everyone in this room will be fired

That was at the very core what we thought he might be able to do because we never thought there would be a congress full of people voting to cut spending.

DOGE just fired half of the department of education. I don't see how the courts can do anything about that.

 

[Madison320]

It's obviously very early but the first month of spending under trump came out for february. It was 603 billion, up from 567 billion last february.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Five reasons for Trump to attack Thomas Massie:

1. Disobeyed a (last minute) direct order to vote "yes" on the CR.

2. Previously disobeyed a direct order to vote "yes" on the massive CARES Act in 2002.

3. Supported DeSantis in the GOP primary.

4. To make AIPAC happy.

5. A Trump supported candidate (Nate Morris) may run against Massie to replace Mitch McConnell.

 

[axiomata]

Massie is the most principled Rep in the House and everyone knows it. He won't bend the knee just because Zod demands it and threatens him.

Trump's attack is just going to highlight Massie's objection to the CR for not cutting the spending to match DOGE's findings. I'm not even sure why this is happening. Trump claims to be supporting and backing DOGE. He should be pushing the GOP to codify DOGE's work (affirming and backing Massie's position).

Especially considering Trump's own supreme court picks are siding with liberal judges against DOGE cuts.

Massie proved right once again.

 

[Snowball]

I actually like the Democrat's quote about what this is really about the most

Because she gives the biggest clue as to why Trump wants the CR. This is from "The Hill":

“The fundamental point, at least as I approach this, is that the president has been deciding how to spend the money any way he wants, even when we have a budget that both Democrats and Republicans voted on. That’s a constitutional issue, right?” Slotkin said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “Everyone knows Congress has the power of the purse. So until I see some assurances that whatever we pass next week is going to ensure that the money is spent the way Congress intends, I’m going to withhold my vote until I see that.”

 

[ClaytonB]

The rescission plan:

"next time never comes"

Exactly. In fact, Trump 47 is already our golden exception to that rule of politics... Trump's second term is beyond improbable... so this is our mulligan, and people are acting like the Trump-effect will last forever. No it absolutely won't. There is 40+% of this country that is either mortal enemies with Trump or can be strongly mobilized to oppose all things MAGA. The support on the R-side is a patchwork of dirty backroom deals and workaday DC pork-barreling. If anyone should be betrayed in this opportunity, it's not Massie, Rand or the few other shining lights of Mr. Jefferson Goes To Washington-style pure populism... it's the filthy swamp traitors who have sold out to the MIC, which includes the bulk of sitting R representatives and senators. They will clap wildly for every populist line in Trump's address but they are not clapping for what he said, rather, they are clapping for the giant pork-barrel project they landed and the nice fat lobbyist checks that are now guaranteed to flow to their PAC which, ultimately, translates into the DC high life. The D's use popup NGOs, the R's use PACs, and it's all just one giant architecture for ripping off We The People. I'm in this so deep it doesn't even make me mad anymore... just stop being stupid, people. Look at the world as it is, rather than as you wish/dream/imagine it could be in some other dimension. Right now, you have the golden opportunity of all opportunities to strike a bone-cracking blow to the Military-Industrial Complex. Don't blow it on screeching about Wokism. Yeah, Wokism is obviously bad and has to go, but it's ultimately just an Overton-window strategy, meaning, it will pull some centrists further left, but it will have no effect on the right. Focus on the fundamentals... restore law and order, restore sound money, check Federal power at every opportunity, cut spending at every opportunity. The legislative branch does not answer to POTUS, that's not how our government works. Massie has no duty to "obey" any "order" from Trump. And if the party wants to throw Massie out, then let them do that, but the fundamentals on the ground would not be altered by that. THINK, people!! Your stupidity just creates a wide-open opportunity for the other side!!!

 

[nikcers]

It's an unprecedented hamstring of probably the largest spending program in our government.

This would be the first year that Congress hasn’t passed a defense spending bill and will instead use a full-year continuing resolution, the military leaders said. They said that continuing the 2024 budget lines doesn’t allow the services to start new contracts, including for weapon modernization or housing and other improvements.

Military leaders warn of risks to armed forces' readiness in temporary funding bill

Military service leaders are telling senators that passing a temporary budget that keeps defense spending largely flat will hurt readiness and efforts to modernize the force.

apnews.com

 

[unknown]

WAR Massie.

 

[unknown]

Thomas Woods is, of course, right. And so is Thomas Massie. And so is Rand Paul. And, I haven't seen a statement yet from Ron Paul, but I'm sure he'll agree as well. Trump's "DOGE cuts" are ALREADY being blocked in the federal courts and the Supreme Court did NOT side with Trump!

See: https://www.gzeromedia.com/news/wat...eign-aid-spelling-potential-problems-for-doge

So, the only way to make the DOGE cuts permanent is to do it through the legislature.