Trump Supporters Are GW Bush Supporters LARPing As Ron Paul Supporters

[devil21]

If you spend as much time online as I do, it's exceedingly easy to tell the actual Trump supporters online from the Zionist perception management shills online. I think many of who she encounters (end up in her orbit, as she calls it) are the shills trying to minimize her influence. There's a very noticeable difference in how the actual Trump voters generally post and how the shills post.

 

[donnay]

This is the argument Tom and Lew used when favoring Trump but you know me and I completely disagree with it. I believe Trump is more fashion with little function, more style with little substance. But also he is more of a showman and much less of a statesman which worked in his favor in an environment where establishment politics was shunned.

Looking back now, do you think he lived up to the hype? is he really pushing back against policies which the establishment support? no matter how bad Rand's performance was during the campaign, you should have known that he was the principled man in the campaign and as someone who has spent time on this forum, you should have know this.

Rand on the other hand has lost a little bit of the luster for me, he is now just a butt boy for Trump showering his with generous praise for doing absolutely nothing. I am afraid that the credibility he has lost during this period will damage his chances of ever winning the white house.

Then you are not aware of people with "street smarts." President Trump is not as stupid as many make him out to be. My father was born and raised in Brooklyn. He was a high school drop out that had a lot more integrity and intelligence than most people who claimed to be scholars and his street smarts made him tough as nails. That is the kind of person you want to weed-out corruption.

Rand was raised by a polite statesman (and that's a good thing). When you are around a lot of corruption, you cannot play nice with them and you have to be one step ahead of them to cut them off at the pass. Figuratively speaking; you cannot bring a knife to a gun fight.

 

[specsaregood]

I voted for Trump purely for the entertainment purposes; he has more than delivered. The fact that he has removed the air of presidential worship for at least half of America is simply a bonus.

 

[dannno]

So is it fair to say that you believe a Trump presidency needs to happen first before we can have an effective liberty president?

Pretty sure I've repeated that like 70 or 80 times at least. Maybe hundreds. Almost once a day, sometimes maybe more than once a day.

 

[dannno]

The best of us can fall for a politicians sweet, sweet lies. I voted for dubya in 2000, but NOT in 2004.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

I've never been fooled. Even when I was 7 years old, Bush Sr. was running for President against Dukakis and I remember being infuriated that those were the only two realistic choices for winning. I was told there were some more choices, and had I learned about all of them I am certain I would have picked Ron Paul even back then. As a 7 year old, I figured out how much taxes my parents were paying and that really sent me over the edge.

2000 was the first election I got to vote in, I was pretty excited. I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary, then I voted for Green Party candidate Ralph Nader in the General. I considered myself a green libertarian back then because I was libertarian on economics, but the Green Party was the one I was seeing out there who was promoting civil liberties, anti-war, anti-war on drugs and I couldn't argue too much with the environmental stuff back then either. Ron Paul eventually straightened me out on all that, even though I had become pretty skeptical of global warming before his candidacy.

I always support candidates who are enemies of the deep state. I voted for Gary Johnson last time, who is an enemy of the deep state, and was sunk by his deep state VP. Pence's job wasn't to sink Trump, it is more to ingratiate himself as far into his inner circle as possible so they can keep tabs on him.

 

[Sammy]

I would have never voted for a war criminal like George W Bush but I voted for Trump.
Trump has a good instinct on Foreign Policy.
OK they are Partisan Republicans who like both Trump & Bush but many Trump supporters hate George W Bush.

Does this sound like George W Bush?

He sounds more like Ron Paul

 

[Sammy]

I've never been fooled. Even when I was 7 years old, Bush Sr. was running for President against Dukakis and I remember being infuriated that those were the only two realistic choices for winning. I was told there were some more choices, and had I learned about all of them I am certain I would have picked Ron Paul even back then. As a 7 year old, I figured out how much taxes my parents were paying and that really sent me over the edge.

2000 was the first election I got to vote in, I was pretty excited. I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary, then I voted for Green Party candidate Ralph Nader in the General. I considered myself a green libertarian back then because I was libertarian on economics, but the Green Party was the one I was seeing out there who was promoting civil liberties, anti-war, anti-war on drugs and I couldn't argue too much with the environmental stuff back then either. Ron Paul eventually straightened me out on all that, even though I had become pretty skeptical of global warming before his candidacy.

I always support candidates who are enemies of the deep state. I voted for Gary Johnson last time, who is an enemy of the deep state, and was sunk by his deep state VP. Pence's job wasn't to sink Trump, it is more to ingratiate himself as far into his inner circle as possible so they can keep tabs on him.

Why not Pat Buchanan?

 

[dannno]

Why not Pat Buchanan?

 

[Philhelm]

Donnell is Hillary on Steroids.

I cannot agree with this. I think we dodged a huge bullet with the result of the 2016 election (even if it's likely too little, too late). If nothing else, his one-man-war against the media, and the acknowledgment of the "deep state," makes him the best President of my lifetime (Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama). Whatever Trump might be behind closed doors, he doesn't seem to project that menacing evil that the Clinton's possess. It's insane to me that someone here (other than Zippy, of course), would think we'd be better off with Clinton.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Is there a Trump supporter here that would have taken Trump over Rand?

I don't think so.

There are a lot who took Trump over Hillary. I don't think they were "duped." I think they knew they had a crappy choice and went with the least crappy.

The same thing is likely to happen this year.

In the mean time, the r3volution is doing absolutely nothing to prepare for 2024. We're pretty good at bitching and moaning though.

Can we get Rand to run in 2024?

This is a bold statement.

https://beinglibertarian.com/heres-how-rand-paul-could-take-the-presidency-in-2024/

After the 2022 elections, Rand Paul will end his second term as a U.S. senator. In 2024, he will be the Republican nominee for the presidency. Whether he’s done so on purpose or not, the junior senator from Kentucky is in a prime position to take control of the Republican Party post-Trump, regardless of what happens to the commander-in-chief. Here’s how.

The writer of the article:
Andrew Bartholomew
Andrew Bartholomew is a politics and election news writer from Iowa City, Iowa. He has previously worked for Young Americans for Liberty and was most recently the political director for a Republican congressional bid.

 

[specsaregood]

It's insane to me that someone here (other than Zippy, of course), would think we'd be better off with Clinton.

some people just want to watch the world burn.

 

[donnay]

Can we get Rand to run in 2024?

This is a bold statement.

https://beinglibertarian.com/heres-how-rand-paul-could-take-the-presidency-in-2024/

After the 2022 elections, Rand Paul will end his second term as a U.S. senator. In 2024, he will be the Republican nominee for the presidency. Whether he’s done so on purpose or not, the junior senator from Kentucky is in a prime position to take control of the Republican Party post-Trump, regardless of what happens to the commander-in-chief. Here’s how.

Yes if he continues to aggressively combat the corruption like he is doing.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Yes if he continues to aggressively combat the corruption like he is doing.

Maybe that is an indicator that he is aligning himself for a 2024 run. Same way I think Romney voted to impeach. Romney will run as well and he too is aligning for a 2024 run.

 

[donnay]

Maybe that is an indicator that he is aligning himself for a 2024 run. Same way I think Romney voted to impeach. Romney will run as well and he too is aligning for a 2024 run.

Anything is possible. However, Romney sunk himself with that impeachment vote just like Amash did.

 

[Theocrat]

Trump Wants Secrecy; Paul Wants Transparency

As an example:

What Dr. Ron Paul said about Edward Snowden:



What Donald Trump said about Edward Snowden:



If you support Donald Trump, then you support a person who's not interested in exposing the "Deep State," just as other neoconservatives, like George W. Bush, weren't interested in exposing the "Deep State." Donald Trump has never been of the same political philosophy as Dr. Ron Paul, and that much has been evident since Trump was in the 2016 Primaries.

 

[oyarde]

There may not even be such a thing as a W voter . You can thank the retard dems for that . What you really have are voters who are not going to vote for Gore , Kerry , Clinton etc . There is a reason for that , they are the shittiest of candidates .

 

[Swordsmyth]

As an example:

What Dr. Ron Paul said about Edward Snowden:



What Donald Trump said about Edward Snowden:



If you support Donald Trump, then you support a person who's not interested in exposing the "Deep State," just as other neoconservatives, like George W. Bush, weren't interested in exposing the "Deep State." Donald Trump has never been of the same political philosophy as Dr. Ron Paul, and that much has been evident since Trump was in the 2016 Primaries.

That's funny, because Trump is exposing the deepstate far more effectively than Ron did.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Trump had the military kill an enemy who was engaged in warfare against us and who was trying to provoke a war.
He deliberately refused to start a war with Iran multiple times, W would have started many new wars by now.

The article is just TDS.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Can we get Rand to run in 2024?

This is a bold statement.

https://beinglibertarian.com/heres-how-rand-paul-could-take-the-presidency-in-2024/

After the 2022 elections, Rand Paul will end his second term as a U.S. senator. In 2024, he will be the Republican nominee for the presidency. Whether he’s done so on purpose or not, the junior senator from Kentucky is in a prime position to take control of the Republican Party post-Trump, regardless of what happens to the commander-in-chief. Here’s how.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[nobody's_hero]

If you support Donald Trump, then you support a person who's not interested in exposing the "Deep State," just as other neoconservatives, like George W. Bush, weren't interested in exposing the "Deep State." Donald Trump has never been of the same political philosophy as Dr. Ron Paul, and that much has been evident since Trump was in the 2016 Primaries.

I'm interested in how you came to that conclusion. Before 2016 hardly anyone outside of libertarian circles talked about what goes on behind closed doors.

Sure, Trump might not have intentionally changed the dialogue on foreign policy and backroom dealings. Maybe he didn't mean to obliterate the average American's faith in the MSM. Maybe he was given too much leeway by his handlers and let the cat out of the bag. In any case, kudos. It should make future liberty candidate runs a hell of a lot easier.