Trump Promises a “100% Tariff” on Cars Made Outside the US

[Swordsmyth]

That's interesting, considering all that started in the fifties and the task was done by the eighties. And because cars were crappier in the seventies than in the nineties.

Irrelevant.

Lord.

If we had government protection it would protect us from government.

More "liberty protecting authoritarianism"...

The government abandoned one of its legitimate powers and duties to facilitate usurping more power.
Even you should be able to understand that.
They couldn't do the second action until they did the first.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Are you sure?

Absolutely.
We import massive amounts of food, so shutting down farms will not cause an immediate uprising.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah but your cause and effect is wrong. During most of that time we didn't even have an income tax.

Yeah, we had tariffs instead.
The tax burden was born by foreigners and consumers, consequently producers flourished.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, because we must not not fund the federal government. That way it will find other ingenious ways to grow itself all over again.

You know what kind of taxes are easiest to avoid in order to starve the beast? Tariffs.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm all for that as well.

One of the primary missions of the FedGov is to protect the country against invasion, and it is obviously failing at that point.

Fack, it's promoting the invasion.

And it all started with promoting the legal immigrant invasion and the free trade invasion.

 

[Swordsmyth]

 

[PAF]

the free trade invasion.

“The free trade invasion”

 

[Swordsmyth]

“The free trade invasion”

Do you know why you shouldn't feed the animals at National parks?
Cheap slave labor imports do the same thing.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And it all started with promoting the legal immigrant invasion and the free trade invasion.

Well, to my mind, it started with government run " feminist" propaganda post WWII.

That dragged women away from the home and raising children and into the workforce, lowering wages and increasing tax intake.

When that pool of cheap labor dried up, they started importing the third world.

That worked so well they realized why not just rid of the stock Americans altogether?

 

[acptulsa]

Irrelevant.

The fact that your facts are usually wrong is always irrelevant to you. And you can't figure out why only morons take you seriously.

 

[CaptUSA]

“The free trade invasion”

Do you know why you shouldn't feed the animals at National parks?

So is this the Trump message, then?!?! "We can't give the peasants freedom!! They may come to depend on it!!"

 

[Madison320]

“The free trade invasion”

It's so unfair. They keep letting me buy what I want!

 

[Swordsmyth]

So is this the Trump message, then?!?! "We can't give the peasants freedom!! They may come to depend on it!!"

We can't let foreign despots hook them on welfare and subvert freedom.
When the animals become hooked on the free food they either end up in cages or die.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The fact that your facts are usually wrong is always irrelevant to you. And you can't figure out why only morons take you seriously.

Nothing you said disproved anything I said.

 

[Swordsmyth]

It's so unfair. They keep letting me buy what I want!

What's unfair is allowing foreign enemies to destroy American businesses with trade warfare.

 

[CaptUSA]

We can't let foreign despots hook them on welfare and subvert freedom.
When the animals become hooked on the free food they either end up in cages or die.

Protectionism IS welfare, you dolt! Freedom is the opposite of that!

 

[Swordsmyth]

Protectionism IS welfare, you dolt! Freedom is the opposite of that!

No it is not, it doesn't take money from one American and give it to another.
It doesn't give any money to anyone.
Your pitiful argument is like saying tax cuts are welfare.

 

[CaptUSA]

No it is not, it doesn't take money from one American and give it to another.
It doesn't give any money to anyone.
Your pitiful argument is like saying tax cuts are welfare.

For people with some functioning neurons, protectionist tariffs are using government to make the things you like to buy more expensive. The aim of that misguided philosophy is to literally move more of your money to the politically-favored class. Had that money been left in your own pockets, you could have decided to spend it on a new deck for your house, built by another American.

So yes, it is indeed using government force to move wealth away from where you want to use it and into the hands of the politically-favored.

But you're shifting the goalposts again. Your original thesis was that if Americans were free to decide where to spend their money, we may become addicted to and dependent on that freedom - just like animals in a zoo. So up is down, water is dry, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. We know what you're doing here!

 

[Invisible Man]

No it is not, it doesn't take money from one American and give it to another.
It doesn't give any money to anyone.
Your pitiful argument is like saying tax cuts are welfare.

Let's make a government program where we pay a group of people to dig holes and pay another group of people to fill those holes back in and say it isn't welfare.

 

[acptulsa]

No it is not, it doesn't take money from one American and give it to another.
It doesn't give any money to anyone.

It takes money from an American who buys an import and gives it to American bureaucrats.

You just never let facts get in the way of your narrative, do you?

I think what you're trying to say is, it takes money from someone doing something you disapprove of and uses it to fuel Air Force One which is going to happen anyway, so you tell yourself it fixes what you perceive as a problem without causing any side effects you care about.