Trump on immigration & war w/Tim Pool at LP 2024 national convention

[PAF]

Oh, that centralist-socialist thing which transfers wealth and individual liberty that I never contractually signed, and then they stuck on 10 Natural Rights to persuade the people, but which nobody pays attention to.

True colors by Cindy Lauper

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh, that centralist-socialist thing which transfers wealth and individual liberty that I never contractually signed, and then they stuck on 10 Natural Rights to persuade the people, but which nobody pays attention to.

True colors by Cindy Lauper

Better than anything your beloved Marxist invader criminals believe in.

 

[fisharmor]

I shoot a man invading my home.

Am I guilty of "restricting his right to move about"?

Your home is just that. Your home.
There is no "our" home, comrade.

But speaking of which, why don't they just start shooting? There is no logical reason not to.

 

[PAF]

Better than anything your beloved Marxist invader criminals believe in.

Hey, it was your people who signed off on the bills to take my money [taxes] which fund your DHS/NGOs, just so that you/they [proper pronouns] can implement more police-state "solutions" - courtesy of the constitution.

 

[CCTelander]

My country is equivalent to my house when it comes to foreigners.

Not even close.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Hey, it was your people who signed off on the bills to take my money [taxes] which fund your DHS/NGOs, just so that you/they [proper pronouns] can implement more police-state "solutions" - courtesy of the constitution.

Not my people.
More like Constitution haters like yourself, many descended from immigrants who never should have been let in.

You should go live in Mexico under the cartels and communists, and Mexico is a paradise compared to most of the places the people you want to let in come from.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Not even close.

Exactly the same in the context.

 

[PAF]

Not my people.
More like Constitution haters like yourself, many descended from immigrants who never should have been let in.

This descendant of immigrants values freedom, liberty and fiscal responsibility more than an entire country of you.

You should go live in Mexico under the cartels and communists, and Mexico is a paradise compared to most of the places the people you want to let in come from.

I actually do part time. Now if I can convince some of my family to uproot... I'd save even more on travel expenses alone ;-)



Now, back to topic, can you provide On the Record on Chase, otherwise I'll do it myself.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The next time someone crosses the border straight into your living room, blast away with my blessing.

Otherwise, not a valid analogy.

I think it is.

I would not expect you or PAF to agree, both of you being anarchists.

But to those of us who do believe in nation and a homeland, it's just as much a front door as the one 10 feet from me is.

 

[PAF]

I think it is.

I would not expect you or PAF to agree, both of you being anarchists.

But to those of us who do believe in nation and a homeland, it's just as much a front door as the one 10 feet from me is.

So, not only do you not believe in the following:

If there is no natural right to move about, then there is a police state - particularly if free movement is actively curtailed by armed goons.
If the privilege of free movement is not God-given and is doled out by the state, then that is at least one natural right you deny.

You also do not believe in Private Property Rights, but that of government, ie; shared, ie; socialism.


The wonderful world of government indoctrination

 

[PAF]

Way to go Tim! Boy did you suck brown out of a rear!

What a waste of my 17 minutes. Not once did he ask or address the root cause [funding] of the immigration issue. But Trump did say that he was going to "help" local law enforcement. What, federally???

I heard that same Ron Paul speech by Bush W., except now it's Trump who Stands with Israel. Now that Operation Warp Speed / Project NextGen is fully operational, it's time to give the MIC some attention.

They hate him alright............ right across the finish line.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Your home is just that. Your home.

There is no "our" home, comrade.

So, not only do you not believe in the following:

You also do not believe in Private Property Rights, but that of government, ie; shared, ie; socialism.

The wonderful world of government indoctrination

I believe in this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.

Men are not angels, and they will take your rights and your property and your life.

A just government exists to protect those rights, from men who are not angels.

An unjust government, which we now have, deserves to be, must, be abolished and new government installed.

But why do we have to keep going around and around on this?

You and Fish and CC are anarchists and do not believe in any of this.

It's like atheists and religious folks arguing endlessly...no point in it.

I understand your position, I have given it much deep thought and have come to a different conclusion.

I do need some clarification on this:

But speaking of which, why don't they just start shooting? There is no logical reason not to.

[MENTION=17673]fisharmor[/MENTION]

Who is they? What reasons not to?

 

[PAF]

I believe in this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.

Men are not angels, and they will take your rights.

A just government exists to protect those rights, from men who are not angels.

An unjust government, which we now have, deserves to be, must, be abolished and new government installed.

But why do we have to keep going around and around on this?

You and Fish and CC are anarchists and do not believe in any of this.

It's like atheists and religious folks arguing endlessly...no point in it.

I understand your position, I have given it much deep thought and have come to a different conclusion.

I would suggest think harder and deeper about your conclusion, because obviously it wasn't enough.

I do need some clarification on this:

[MENTION=17673]fisharmor[/MENTION]

Who is they? What reasons not to?

I believe what he is saying is, if:

But to those of us who do believe in nation and a homeland, it's just as much a front door as the one 10 feet from me is.

then, by that statement, you have every-right-to-shoot to your hearts content and not be held liable for any/all deaths that may occur. So, spin up your gatling gun!!! I believe he was being sarcastic, because your statement is not true.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I would suggest think harder and deeper about your conclusion, because obviously it wasn't enough.

Nah, I'm good.

Thought about it enough.

 

[PAF]

Nah, I'm good.

Thought about it enough.

Me too. I already came to the conclusion that if things are logical and fiscally responsible, people couldn't give a flying flip less.

Hey, on a bright note, did you see the TimCast with DJT in the other thread? Trump said [no, he didn't mention a single thing about DEFUNDING the DHS/NGOs] that if elected, he was going to see to it that he was going to help Local Law Enforcement! To me that means Federally! Aren't ya all giddy just thinking about it?! Tim even kissed his ass!

See? Now you know the intent of why all of this is happening!

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Way to go Tim! Boy did you suck brown out of a rear!

What a waste of my 17 minutes. Not once did he ask or address the root cause [funding] of the immigration issue. But Trump did say that he was going to "help" local law enforcement. What, federally???

I heard that same Ron Paul speech by Bush W., except now it's Trump who Stands with Israel. Now that Operation Warp Speed / Project NextGen is fully operational, it's time to give the MIC some attention.

They hate him alright............ right across the finish line.

Standing with Israel instated of being neutral after the Israeli/IDF attack on rafah which killed civilians in a refuge camp wouldn't be a good idea politically.

Not once did he ask or address the root cause [funding] of the immigration issue

Your right the amount of vids Tim Pool has on the topic of the immigration issue not once did Tim Pool brought in the role of those NGOs that are bringing the migrants to the southern borders or what Trump would do about it.

 

[dannno]

Your right the amount of vids Tim Pool has on the topic of the immigration issue not once did Tim Pool brought in the role of those NGOs that are bringing the migrants to the southern borders or what Trump would do about it.

Probably the same thing as last time but more.

 

[acptulsa]

Probably the same thing as last time but more.

Probably.

Last time he started funding the NGOs doing it, just like he started federal funding for drag queens doing fan dances for prepubescent children.

 

[acptulsa]

That was in reference to changing the "Invasion USA" thread name.

What does that have to do with sound money?

Are they or are they not printing money and using it to finance this "migration"?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Probably.

Last time he started funding the NGOs doing it, just like he started federal funding for drag queens doing fan dances for prepubescent children.

No he didn't.
Congress did by veto proof margins.
He's going to reclaim the Impoundment power and put an end to that kind of garbage along with lots of other spending.