Trump on immigration & war w/Tim Pool at LP 2024 national convention

I think Nixon was a better president than Trump.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Well, gee, betraying us at Bretton Wood was less bad than funding Fauci. But Nixon going entirely to funny money was what enabled Trump to finance Bill Gates' mass murder.

Sorry, I'm not getting the big distinction here.
 
Well, gee, betraying us at Bretton Wood was less bad than funding Fauci. But Nixon going entirely to funny money was what enabled Trump to finance Bill Gates' mass murder.

Sorry, I'm not getting the big distinction here.

I don't get it either.

Passes, passes, everywhere... much easier than holding them accountable. Certainly easier than throwing off government and living as independently as one can.
 
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Are they or are they not printing money and using it to finance this "migration"?

No, they are not, not as a primary reason.

This invasion does not cost much in money, which is one reason why it's so effective.

While some NGO funding and co-ordination comes from internal sources, the vast portion is coming from nations and entities that are enemies of our country.

They are printing money to prop up the corpse just a little bit longer.

We're approaching $40 trillion in debt.

Zimbabwe is our future because that amount of debt is untenable.
 
No, they are not, not as a primary reason.

This invasion does not cost much in money, which is one reason why it's so effective.

While some NGO funding and co-ordination comes from internal sources, the vast portion is coming from nations and entities that are enemies of our country.

They are printing money to prop up the corpse just a little bit longer.

We're approaching $40 trillion in debt.

Zimbabwe is our future because that amount of debt is untenable.

Oh come on.

Dude the government is funding this. We've followed the goddamned money.

They're printing at a rate designed to deliberately rob us of our wealth and destroy the FRN so they can substitute a cashless replacement. Why wouldn't they spend it on this too?

It started under Trump and has continued seamlessly.

You're up de Nile. Here's a paddle.

The worst enemies are within, and always were.

And most of them are white men, too.
 
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No, they are not, not as a primary reason.

This invasion does not cost much in money, which is one reason why it's so effective.

While some NGO funding and co-ordination comes from internal sources, the vast portion is coming from nations and entities that are enemies of our country.

They are printing money to prop up the corpse just a little bit longer.

We're approaching $40 trillion in debt.

Zimbabwe is our future because that amount of debt is untenable.

To the contrary, it is. Once you add everything up, and what is yet to come in order to pretend to try to solve the problem...

It's like you need $20 that you don't have for something that you want, so you charge it on your CC at 18%. You buy the thing, still don't have money to pay the debt, and you end up paying $100 for a $20 thing that you didn't need in the first place.

AF, everything comes down to money. Everything. It lines the pockets of others [even if it's not a lot to them] while making us go broke [which is a lot to us]. Debt = Slavery goes far beyond the physical green stuff in your pocket. Which is why I harp so much about it.
 
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Oh come on.

Dude the government is funding this. We've followed the goddamned money.

They're printing at a rate designed to deliberately rob us of our wealth and destroy the FRN so they can substitute a cashless replacement. Why wouldn't they spend it on this too?

It started under Trump and has continued seamlessly.

You're up de Nile. Here's a paddle.

The worst enemies are within, and always were.

And most of them are white men, too.


Exactly.
 
Oh come on.

Dude the government is funding this. We've followed the goddamned money.

They're printing at a rate designed to deliberately rob us of our wealth and destroy the FRN so they can substitute a cashless replacement. Why wouldn't they spend it on this too?

It started under Trump and has continued seamlessly.

You're up de Nile. Here's a paddle.

The worst enemies are within, and always were.

And most of them are white men, too.

Never said it wasn't.

Here's a story from the Daily Mail about $1.5 billion going to NGOs to facilitate the invasion.

But there are other, much larger income streams from abroad, from drug cartels and hostile governments and regimes.

Money is not the final goal.

We have watched over the years, as Marxist ideologues have taken over corporation board rooms and pushed a political agenda that has resulted in losses of billions and billions of dollars.

These people do not care about money.

They care about their revolution.

They care about destroying western civilization.
 
But there are other, much larger income streams from abroad, from drug cartels and hostile governments and regimes.

Money is not the final goal.

We have watched over the years, as Marxist ideologues have taken over corporation board rooms and pushed a political agenda that has resulted in losses of billions and billions of dollars.

These people do not care about money.

They care about their revolution.

They care about destroying western civilization.

Drug cartels like Pfizer. Regimes like Schwab's Son of Bilderberg WEF.

Of course they care about money. They care about printing it, controlling it, and making ours useless because they know money is power.

They care about "their revolution"? They care about power. They want it, and they want it absolute. You care about Western Civilization so you assume they do too, but they don't hate it. They want to keep the aspects of it that provide their creature comforts.

They hate and will destroy whatever stands between them and absolute power. It's an important distinction to understand if we are to stop them. Freedom is power too. Power which is not concentrated. Power which is not absolute. That's what we must preserve. If we lose sight of that, we lose.

They want us hoping and wishing for someone powerful to ride in on a white horse and save everyone. They're feeding us this dream because obviously the only way to get this unicorn is to first concentrate all the power so we can bestow it on him.

If we concentrate all the power, we lose. Full stop. And at this point, even the LP nominee is talking about concentrating power in the White House. There's only one candidate left who ever talks about doing the opposite. His name is Kennedy.
 
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Never said it wasn't.

Here's a story from the Daily Mail about $1.5 billion going to NGOs to facilitate the invasion.

But there are other, much larger income streams from abroad, from drug cartels and hostile governments and regimes.

Money is not the final goal.

We have watched over the years, as Marxist ideologues have taken over corporation board rooms and pushed a political agenda that has resulted in losses of billions and billions of dollars.

These people do not care about money.

They care about their revolution.

They care about destroying western civilization.


Money is the means. Stop the money, and there is no incentive or a means.


From the article:

* Nonprofits are being rewarded up to $1,500,000,000 in federal funding
* Their CEOs are being compensated with funds for the migrant crisis
 
Of course they care about money. Money is power. That's why they don't let anyone make any until they prove they already have enough to survive a decade or two waiting for permission. Otherwise someone who isn't already powerful might gain some power.

So what's the stumbling block?

The shortfall is in part because of the permitting process for mining companies. The average time between discovering a new copper mineral deposit and getting a permit to build a mine is about 20 years, according to Simon.

(per the story out of University of Michigan)
 
Trump's Tough Immigration Talk Comes With a High Price Tag

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5.22.2024


With the endorsement of a prominent Republican U.S. senator who was formerly critical of Donald Trump's immigration hawkishness, the Republican party seems wedded this year to a scheme for mass deportation of undocumented migrants. As it embraces the draconian policy, the GOP also attaches itself to the huge price tag inevitably associated with expelling millions of people from the country.

"If reelected, Donald Trump has said he's willing to build migrant detention camps and deploy the U.S. military to deport the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country," Kristen Welker asked of Sen. Marco Rubio (R–Fla.) on NBC News's Meet the Press. "It would be the largest deportation operation in American history.

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A Big Price Tag

"The costs of the former president's plan to deport the more than 14 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. today could easily reach more than $1 trillion over 10 years, before taking into account the labor costs necessary for such a project or the unforeseen consequences of reducing the labor supply by such drastic amounts over a short period of time," MarketWatch's Chris Matthews reported this week of the results of a Penn Wharton Budget Model (PWBM) analysis.

Trump's plan is still taking shape, though the former and perhaps future president has proposed using both the military and local law enforcement to eject migrants in this country illegally. If that policy was put into effect, "the removal of one million immigrants would cost the federal government between $40 billion and $50 billion over 10 years, and up to $100 billion if those immigrants were higher-paid workers," Matthews wrote of PWBM's finding.

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CIS offsets the price of deporting millions of people by comparing it to what the organization claims is a "total lifetime fiscal drain of $746.3 billion" for the population of undocumented immigrants. But as MarketWatch observes, most experts disagree that undocumented migrants constitute a net drain – they believe that, on balance, they add to the country's economy.


The Economy Also Takes a Hit

"Under current law, unauthorized workers…generally do not qualify for federal benefits," PWBM economists point in a separate analysis. They add that "more deportations, though, leads to less economic growth." As a result, according to PWBM, with the implementation of restrictive policies, "GDP in 2050 will be four percent lower relative to no additional deportations."

AAF predicted that with deportations, "the labor force would shrink by 6.4 percent and, as a result, in 20 years the U.S. GDP would be almost 6 percent lower than it would be without fully enforcing current law."

In 2017, the Center for Migrant Studies cautioned that with a mass deportation program, "gross domestic product (GDP) would be reduced by 1.4 percent in the first year, and cumulative GDP would be reduced by $4.7 trillion over 10 years."

Obviously, there's a range of costs projected for a policy shift to mass deportations of undocumented migrants. That's because it has never been tried on the scale envisioned by Trump and his supporters. In fact, if Rubio is correct that the real number of people in the country in defiance of the law is "upwards of 20, 25, maybe 30 million," deportations will have to be that much more aggressive, with an even higher price tag to match.


Full article:

https://reason.com/2024/05/22/trumps-tough-immigration-talk-comes-with-a-high-price-tag/
 
Because, no "conservative republican" in their right mind would ever consider DEFUNDING the dearly beloved DHS and NGOs before spending another tax-payer cent while at the same time pushing back the police-state... soon to be federalized Local LEO.

Spend spend spend! Hoorah!
 
It’s the price we pay for living in a free and prosperous socie, mmmf, mmmf mwahahahahahaha!

I can’t even say it without LMAO.
 
Make it four trillion now.

Here I'll pay for it.

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It's afraid.... And those cost figures are ridiculous lies.

Don't be too sure. Thanks to Truden inflation (or Birmp inflation , or whatever you want to call it), a loaf of bread could cost a million in ten years.
 
It's afraid.... And those cost figures are ridiculous lies.

Of course they are.

The pro invasion people will have you believing the moon will fall out of it's orbit if you depart one single invader.

I could deport a million in less than a year and spend less than what is being spent now.

It's all horseshit and lies, being thrown around by people that want this country destroyed.
 
I love it when you deny saying what you just said. It's the best comedy ever.

Again, you lie about what was said.

Quote anyone saying we could shoot people with an accent on sight anywhere in America:
You think a "national right to control the entry of foreigners" gives people the right to shoot anyone who speaks with an accent on sight?

Show a quote.
 
Everyone else in the country: It's concerning that the Executive Branch has taken control of everything and Congress has been reduced to a rubber stamp. Just look at the agencies flatly refusing to bring materials that Thomas Massie subpoenaed to the hearing. It's bad.

You: If Trump did it then he didn't do it, Congress did.

If the bureaucracy was the frustration to Trump that you claim it was, why did he proudly create more? You are talking about the guy who hexed the Pentagram -- er, I mean Pentagon -- with the addition of the Spy Force -- er, I mean Space Force...

Congress still has the power of the purse, and it's too powerful since the end of impoundment.

The bureaucracy has been made an independent branch of government by Congress and the courts.

Space Force is not a regulatory agency, it's military not bureaucracy.
Whether it was a good idea or a bad idea or really changed anything at all is an entirely different question.
 
I think Nixon was a better president than Trump.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Ended the last vestiges of the gold standard, opened up trade with communist China, created the EPA and OSHA, and lots of other historic evils.

Don't make me laugh.
 
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