Trump-Kasich Feud Has GOP Worried About Ohio

[AuH20]

Even if Kasich helped it wouldnt matter. The only thing that would accomplish is hurting Kasich's future political goals.

Trump is a buffoon and will lose in a landslide when it actually comes down to voting. Too much disunity in the GOP and his racist nonsense and inexperience will turn off a majority of independents. If the opponent wasnt Clinton hed be down by more than 10.

Trump is up roughly 11% with independents. It's not working.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Even if Kasich helped it wouldnt matter. The only thing that would accomplish is hurting Kasich's future political goals.

Trump is a buffoon and will lose in a landslide when it actually comes down to voting. Too much disunity in the GOP and his racist nonsense and inexperience will turn off a majority of independents. If the opponent wasnt Clinton hed be down by more than 10.

Yup, Clinton is an historically bad candidate, in a cycle which should favor the GOP (8 years of Dem rule).

...hence she found it necessary to run a ringer in the form of her old pal Donald, the only candidate worse than her, the only one she can beat.

 

[silverhandorder]

Yup, Clinton is an historically bad candidate, in a cycle which should favor the GOP (8 years of Dem rule).

...hence she found it necessary to run a ringer in the form of her old pal Donald, the only candidate worse than her, the only one she can beat.

You never liked him how would you know if he is likable or not? Is it not sign enough that he is even pulling in some of RP coalition that he is likable? I could vomit on Romney and McCain yet The Donald is awesome in my book.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

You never liked him how would you know if he is likable or not? Is it not sign enough that he is even pulling in some of RP coalition that he is likable? I could vomit on Romney and McCain yet The Donald is awesome in my book.

Of all the GOP candidates, Donald consistently polled the worst against Hillary, all the way through the primaries.

Donald has the highest unfavorables of any candidate, from either party, in modern history.

 

[moostraks]

Trump is up roughly 11% with independents. It's not working.

Most Republicans (55 percent) said Trump's message made them feel hopeful and four in ten Republicans said it made them feel enthusiastic.

Independents' responses weren't as positive, with 32 percent saying they felt hopeful and 25 percent with enthusiasm. Meanwhile, 63 percent of Democrats said what they saw and heard from Trump made them feel scared, echoing similar sentiments that many had expressed during the primary season. Thirty-two percent of independents also said they felt scared, equalling the number who said hopeful, and 29 percent of independents said it made them pessimistic.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-gets-small-boost-in-battleground-states/

This is without the Democrats having their convention yet, where they will be trying to engender feelings of happiness and sunshine. There is a problem with pushing doom and gloom and no significant solutions spelled out. The numerous articles I have read on the Clinton-Kaine ticket have been characterizing them as the antithesis of the Republican darkness and anger, the word optimism is used frequently.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

And let's not forget his abysmal fundraising, resulting from his alienation of most of the GOP (especially now Kasich/Cruz people).

Hillary and her PACs have $84 million cash on hand; Donald and his have $22 million.

Last month she raised about twice as much as he did.

If you think Donald's poll numbers have hit bottom, wait a while.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

And let's not forget his abysmal fundraising, resulting from his alienation of most of the GOP (especially now Kasich/Cruz people).

Hillary and her PACs have $84 million cash on hand; Donald and his have $22 million.

Last month she raised about twice as much as he did.

If you think Donald's poll numbers have hit bottom, wait a while.

Okay, waited a few hours. As per the latest polls (which do not reflect the new DNC email scandal):

CNN--- Trump 44%, Clinton 39%

LA Times--- Trump 45%, Clinton 41%

CBS--- Trump 42%, Clinton 41%

Morning Consult--- Trump 44%, Clinton 39%

If this is the bottom for Trump, the sky is the limit.

 

[silverhandorder]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-gets-small-boost-in-battleground-states/

This is without the Democrats having their convention yet, where they will be trying to engender feelings of happiness and sunshine. There is a problem with pushing doom and gloom and no significant solutions spelled out. The numerous articles I have read on the Clinton-Kaine ticket have been characterizing them as the antithesis of the Republican darkness and anger, the word optimism is used frequently.

And let's not forget his abysmal fundraising, resulting from his alienation of most of the GOP (especially now Kasich/Cruz people).

Hillary and her PACs have $84 million cash on hand; Donald and his have $22 million.

Last month she raised about twice as much as he did.

If you think Donald's poll numbers have hit bottom, wait a while.

Why do you want to tear people down? When McCain and Romney won I did not support them but I wasn't here 24/7 pushing liberal talking points. That is right liberal not libertarian. You would not n ow libertarian even if it smacked you.

So what is your true motive?

 

[CaptUSA]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-gets-small-boost-in-battleground-states/

This is without the Democrats having their convention yet, where they will be trying to engender feelings of happiness and sunshine. There is a problem with pushing doom and gloom and no significant solutions spelled out. The numerous articles I have read on the Clinton-Kaine ticket have been characterizing them as the antithesis of the Republican darkness and anger, the word optimism is used frequently.

The media is going to be in a real pickle for the next few months. Their bread and butter is selling doom and gloom and fear, but that plays right into Trump's favor. If they presented information instead of sensationalizing it, Trump's convention bump would be nil.

So they have a choice. They can start presenting facts and back off the fear (which will probably cost them ratings), or they can keep their ratings now, get Trump elected, and blame everything bad on him for the next 4 years. I wonder which direction they'll choose??

See, this is why I think Trump has a decent chance of winning in November. If people go into the polls feeling fearful, they have an authoritarian that promises to allay those fears. But the real action will be down-ballot where the GOP will get crushed. And I mean decimated. By the time 2020 comes around, the Dems will have huge majorities in both houses and will have captured governorships as well. If Trump wins, there's going to be a bloodletting.

But if they let Hillary win, the GOP will have huge fundraising numbers and will pick up additional seats in 2018. So we have this odd circumstance of the parties needing the other side to win at the top of the ticket, but their side to win down-ballot. Strange times, indeed.

 

[silverhandorder]

All media has been doing as long as I can remember is excuse government growth and doom and gloom on anyone trying to shrink government. There is zero decision making on their part this election. They will continue in the same vein. This is because they are 90% communist/socialists. The alt right push back is fueled by this.

 

[CaptUSA]

All media has been doing as long as I can remember is excuse government growth and doom and gloom on anyone trying to shrink government. There is zero decision making on their part this election. They will continue in the same vein. This is because they are 90% communist/socialists. The alt right push back is fueled by this.

Lol - isn't it curious then, that they've been giving the guy promising to grow government by leaps and bounds billions in free ads?

Remember, they get a nice return on their investment. That's what they care about. They've found their perfect politician to indulge them. They have some pretty big mutual interests!

 

[silverhandorder]

Lol - isn't it curious then, that they've been giving the guy promising to grow government by leaps and bounds billions in free ads?

Remember, they get a nice return on their investment. That's what they care about. They've found their perfect politician to indulge them. They have some pretty big mutual interests!

I do not agree with that assessment at all.
Free media is all because if who Trump is. If they could help they would have drowned him and kept on walking.

Early on before his rise he would constantly throw in lines into the public that demanded outrage from media. They are not smart and they thought just by doing the standard Democrat ridicule would force Trump to tuck tail and run. But what it did is show him in good light and showed them trying to hard to go after him

I mean his comment about celebrations turned out to be correct. It was not 100% precise but there were people in NJ celebrating. So they spammed the air waves how Trump was wrong and that it was not a lot of people but some.

He did the same with crime statistics. He did the same with Megyn Kelly. Those lines clealy work on you. I suspect you hate him more for pissing off liberals then you hate him for not being a pure libertarian.

Trump constantly sends out messages to people that get through the fire wall. He is loyal to his people, he does not back down and he is competent.

This is all him.

Edit: I live seeing people shit talk Trump and praise his kids. That is like who do you think raised them?!

 

[CPUd]

Trump could not stop a grassroots rebellion on his own, so he went to the party elites for help. In exchange, the RNC was able to further the power grab that happened in 2012. This was before the convention even started, and it shows exactly what Trump would do if he got elected.

 

[silverhandorder]

Trump could not stop a grassroots rebellion on his own, so he went to the party elites for help. In exchange, the RNC was able to further the power grab that happened in 2012. This was before the convention even started, and it shows exactly what Trump would do if he got elected.

Nice story now that your prediction ended up totally wrong.

Party elites are smarter than Ted Cruz and Trump is the grassroots. Ted Cruz left overs no longer exist they reoriented them selves after his explosion.

 

[CPUd]

Nice story now that your prediction ended up totally wrong.

Party elites are smarter than Ted Cruz and Trump is the grassroots. Ted Cruz left overs no longer exist they reoriented them selves after his explosion.

Not sure what you are talking about. There are dozens of reports from people who were there who say otherwise.

 

[silverhandorder]

Not sure what you are talking about. There are dozens of reports from people who were there who say otherwise.

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

You need to learn to see through BS. Maybe then you would start making accurate predictions.

Right now your predictions are totally wrong.

 

[CaptUSA]

I suspect you hate him more for pissing off liberals then you hate him for not being a pure libertarian.

Hate him? I don't hate him at all. (But that does say something about you, if you've reached that conclusion.)

No, I see him for what he is. A talented salesman and a great con artist. I do find it distasteful how he got so many people in the liberty movement to buy into the con. But I don't hate him. He's an authoritarian fraud - he's doing what an authoritarian fraud does.

...And if you think that the media is dumb and Trump is a genius manipulator, then I think you haven't been paying attention for the last century. It's all about the special interests. Trump's whole gameplan was to play to the special interest with the loudest megaphone. They love it and he loves it. He's gotten more money from them than any candidate in history - and it's all "off the books". But, you're going to have to see through the con before you can accept that.

 

[CPUd]

Hate him? I don't hate him at all. (But that does say something about you, if you've reached that conclusion.)

No, I see him for what he is. A talented salesman and a great con artist. I do find it distasteful how he got so many people in the liberty movement to buy into the con. But I don't hate him. He's an authoritarian fraud - he's doing what an authoritarian fraud does.

...And if you think that the media is dumb and Trump is a genius manipulator, then I think you haven't been paying attention for the last century. It's all about the special interests. Trump's whole gameplan was to play to the special interest with the loudest megaphone. They love it and he loves it. He's gotten more money from them than any candidate in history - and it's all "off the books". But, you're going to have to see through the con before you can accept that.

Yep, they can't see beyond love and hate to understand why people on a liberty-oriented board might not want to support a candidate who has shown himself to be an enemy of liberty, and destructive to the mission.

 

[silverhandorder]

Hate him? I don't hate him at all. (But that does say something about you, if you've reached that conclusion.)

No, I see him for what he is. A talented salesman and a great con artist. I do find it distasteful how he got so many people in the liberty movement to buy into the con. But I don't hate him. He's an authoritarian fraud - he's doing what an authoritarian fraud does.

...And if you think that the media is dumb and Trump is a genius manipulator, then I think you haven't been paying attention for the last century. It's all about the special interests. Trump's whole gameplan was to play to the special interest with the loudest megaphone. They love it and he loves it. He's gotten more money from them than any candidate in history - and it's all "off the books". But, you're going to have to see through the con before you can accept that.

Yep, they can't see beyond love and hate to understand why people on a liberty-oriented board might not want to support a candidate who has shown himself to be an enemy of liberty, and destructive to the mission.

It is absolutely about love and hate. I like Trump so on that part I can't do anything about it and I am not going to apologize for liking someone.

Hate is what people do when they spam the forum with lies about the man and spam. Using talking points of people I absolutely do not like.

He is a talented salesman as far as a con man I found your past arguments lacking.

And yes he is building a coalition and he is bringing in different interests. The interests he is not bringing in are neocons.

 

[Philmanoman]

Everytime I read a TrumpTurds post I cant help but LMAO.

Seriously though read this...plus other TrumpTurds posts.
Is this person even over 14years old?

It is absolutely about love and hate. I like Trump so on that part I can't do anything about it and I am not going to apologize for liking someone.

Hate is what people do when they spam the forum with lies about the man and spam. Using talking points of people I absolutely do not like.

He is a talented salesman as far as a con man I found your past arguments lacking.

And yes he is building a coalition and he is bringing in different interests. The interests he is not bringing in are neocons.