Total RP Pres. Texas votes 69,824 vs RP district14 Total votes 54,111

[NerveShocker]

You may very well be right. But are you going to the court or the media with "there is no way this could have happened?"

My answer is PROVE IT.

I'm NOT saying you are wrong. I'm just saying you need more than a hunch. The FACT is that you have absolutely no evidence to back up your claim. GO GET SOME and then maybe we can do something about it.

Yeah great idea maybe I'll take them to court. Ahh, damn they control the courts. Well I guess that won't work. (Goes back to waking people up on an individual basis).


Seriously, you should read his book.


Live Free or DieBold?

 

[TruthAtLast]

Yeah great idea maybe I'll take them to court. Ahh, damn they control the courts. Well I guess that won't work. (Goes back to waking people up on an individual basis).


Live Free or DieBold?

ok then, what are you going to do? What is this whole argument about then? If there is no action that can be taken then what does it matter WHAT the reason was?

 

[SteveMartin]

The numbers say he took only 4.3% in a 3-man race beyond CD #14 in a very independent-minded (especially among Republicans) State where INDEPENDENCE movements are born. That is Ron Paul's home state. That would be among the very poorest results he ever had in any state, including going back to when there were 8 guys still in the race!

You may say it's not proof. Some things in life are just empirically deduced, and never proven.

Prove the sun will come up tomorrow. I dare you.

 

[SteveMartin]

The FACT is that you have absolutely no evidence to back up your claim.

Patently false statement that can easily be proven false.

What else you got?....Bring it on....

 

[NerveShocker]

ok then, what are you going to do? What is this whole argument about then? If there is no action that can be taken then what does it matter WHAT the reason was?

Wow I really have to lay this out for you don't I? Ok.. as Edward Griffen said we need to overthrow the government.

Or since you suprisingly don't seem to know much about him.. maybe I'll use Thomas Jefferson who said for the good of the nation there should be a revolution once every twenty years. This in his opinion was the only way to not allow power to corrupt and to maintain the liberties and freedoms of the people.
Link:
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl64.htm


Live Free or Die-Bold?

 

[SteveMartin]

I submit that nobody who signs up a few days ago, piles up 300+ posts, claims to support the writings of G. Edward Griffin, and then challenges blatantly obvious evidence of vote fraud is what he purports to be.

Now that, I admit, can't be proven.

Just putting it out there....

 

[CurtisLow]

I did not read all the posts...

But don't worry about it, Didnt you hear that bush had Alberto Gonzales fire all those Supreme Court justices and replaced them with people that will deal with the 2008 vote fraud when they come up.


No worries..

 

[TruthAtLast]

You actually CAN prove that the sun come up tomorrow, or rather than the earth will continue to rotate on its axis and in orbit which gives the illusion of the sun coming up.

I look at the stats and I agree, it is odd. And I'm frustrated like you. But if you can't go to court, and you can't go to the media, and you can't go to the GOP, then what can you do?

If some action is going to be taken, whatever it is, we need something more than "it just doesn't make any sense".

Come on, you know this. You know how these things work. I'm not arguing that you're wrong, I'm just saying (as it appeared others were saying as well) that our proof must either be direct evidence of voter fraud, or hard evidence that it WASN'T any other factor (which may indirectly imply voter fraud).

 

[TruthAtLast]

Patently false statement that can easily be proven false.

What else you got?....Bring it on....

So you are saying you DO have evidence of voter fraud? SWEET! then lets take action!

 

[NerveShocker]

I submit that nobody who signs up a few days ago, piles up 300+ posts, claims to support the writings of G. Edward Griffin, and then challenges blatantly obvious evidence of vote fraud is what he purports to be.

Now that, I admit, can't be proven.

Just putting it out there....

Maybe just an off day for him.. Based on what I'm hearing he likely hasn't seen any of those videos recently, his mindset would be entirely different. We all go through phases in my opinion, he's in his skeptic phase (I've been too there even after knowing what I know). Notice he keeps demanding proof, as if the numbers are not proof themselves. The problem is once you pick a side of an argument your pretty much stuck on that side. Unless of course you understand how silly that is, sometimes you catch yourself.

 

[SteveMartin]

Another very common trait is that they never give up, even when proven wrong. They get paid the same either way.

Now look, we have already provided clear evidence of voter fraud to Joe Becker, and for whatever reason he has stymied all grassroots efforts to do anything about it. There are several threads on the official Ronpaul.meetup.com/boards/ message boards about this.

Our campaign has been as infiltrated as these boards.

We need to rise up and throw the bums out!

 

[TruthAtLast]

I submit that nobody who signs up a few days ago, piles up 300+ posts, claims to support the writings of G. Edward Griffin, and then challenges blatantly obvious evidence of vote fraud is what he purports to be.

Now that, I admit, can't be proven.

Just putting it out there....

I few days ago? you're joking. Again, read my posts. They aren't friggin *bump* posts I've done. Ask anyone here.

I've donated and have supported countless efforts. I've maxed out on both the presidential and congressional campaigns, i've donated to the blimp and the racing and the billboards, I've donated to many of the other Pauliticians as well.

if you think that the time at which someone signs up to this forum equates to their validity as a supporter, you haven't been paying attention.

 

[BigTimeMoe]

The Texas GOP platform already has a plank in it about returning to paper ballots. The problem is that is might not have made it to the national platform. If it is in the national platform, then, our reps just aren't reading it. If anyone hasn't done it yet I highly encourage you to read the GOP platform of Texas (www.texasgop.org). It reads as if Ron Paul wrote it himself, for the most part.

 

[SteveMartin]

Of course I have evidence. I have already given it and so have many others.

"Evidence" is not "proof." How old are you?

 

[SteveMartin]

I've donated and have supported countless efforts. I've maxed out on both the presidential and congressional campaigns, i've donated to the blimp and the racing and the billboards, I've donated to many of the other Pauliticians as well.

"Prove it."

 

[jrich4rpaul]

We passed a resolution in our precinct last night to abolish electronic voting machines for all Republican elections and replace it with paper ballots.

Good job!

 

[TruthAtLast]

Wow I really have to lay this out for you don't I? Ok.. as Edward Griffen said we need to overthrow the government.

Or since you suprisingly don't seem to know much about him.. maybe I'll use Thomas Jefferson who said for the good of the nation there should be a revolution once every twenty years. This in his opinion was the only way to not allow power to corrupt and to maintain the liberties and freedoms of the people.
Link:
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl64.htm


Live Free or Die-Bold?

I KNOW what the long term goal is. Geesh, can you please stay on topic. My point is that this entire thread is based on the numbers in Texas. I am saying we need proof. Then others say that proof wont matter because we can't take anyone to court (which I'm not arguing with). So I merely am responding that if there is no immediate action that can be taken regarding this alleged voter fraud, then why are we arguing WHAT the reason was?

 

[TruthAtLast]

"Prove it."

Private message me. Do you want be to scan copies of my bank statements?

 

[SteveMartin]

Don't back up obvious trolls like Mordan and hooyman, and I will give you the benefit of the doubt you are just having a bad day.

 

[SteveMartin]

I KNOW what the long term goal is. Geesh, can you please stay on topic. My point is that this entire thread is based on the numbers in Texas. I am saying we need proof. Then others say that proof wont matter because we can't take anyone to court (which I'm not arguing with). So I merely am responding that if there is no immediate action that can be taken regarding this alleged voter fraud, then why are we arguing WHAT the reason was?

Immediate action is being taken right here and right now. Information and knowledge lead to victory. Nothing much else ever has.