Total RP Pres. Texas votes 69,824 vs RP district14 Total votes 54,111

[Agent CSL]

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[Highstreet]

Notice the "bone" that Ron Paul gets in most state primaries is 5% or 7%....

The difference between district 14 votes and total TX state votes for RP is stated as only 15,713 votes (= 69,824 - 54,111)...

There is *NO WAY* that is accurate. Not in Texas. (Not that vote rigging is new to TX, or any other state...now it's just more scalable...)

Steve Forbes won the AZ primary out of the blue in the 90's, and he didn't even have the broad support or political experience that RP has in his own Lone Star State of TX - yet Forbes won. (Of course, that was before electronic voting)...

IMHO, these Republican Presidential Primary Elections are being essentially stolen from Ron Paul, all the way back to the NH primary, and the electronic voting machines are the main culprit. Look at the caucus states for comparison.

Rather than just going door to door trying to recreate the vote with ballots (not a bad idea, btw), among other things, we the People need to get signatures on the petitions to restore publicly counted paper ballots (download petitions at http://www.voterescue.org), and action taken at the county and state level. Otherwise, this scourge will continue to persist with the goal of turning America into a "voting" dictatorship of the few over the many...

Why don't we ask HQ to HIRE an Exit poll company for random districts, and especially those that have high support for Paul?

This would have been the easiest and cheapest way to verify it in this specific case, where we know he had HIGH support.

 

[syborius]

it's not a bad idea, I don't know why it hasn't be done, but why not just organize a polling system by the grassroots. We have precinct captains, and vote observers, why not have exit poll captains, something I suggested before.

 

[constituent]

How often do you go fishing for, say...hmmm bass is it, no no, thats not your favourite, I think yours is "red herring".

i disagree with you strongly, and partially agree w/ the individual you are seeking to antagonize.

do you have something to say that might refute his claims, or are you just going to shout "troll" and "red herring?"

 

[SteveMartin]

Our HQ has never been interested in winning. That is now amply clear to anyone who has followed them from the beginning.

We have precincts all over the country where RP's name was crossed off the ballot and where election officials told people RP had dropped out and they could not vote for them. Absolute proof in the form of documents and photos was sent to Joe Becker by registered mail and he has done NOTHING.

I'd like to believe they would say/do something about this obvious and blatant vote fraud in Texas, but they won't. They are not on our side.

 

[Phantom]

Bump!

 

[syborius]

Our HQ has never been interested in winning. That is now amply clear to anyone who has followed them from the beginning.

We have precincts all over the country where RP's name was crossed off the ballot and where election officials told people RP had dropped out and they could not vote for them. Absolute proof in the form of documents and photos was sent to Joe Becker by registered mail and he has done NOTHING.

I'd like to believe they would say/do something about this obvious and blatant vote fraud in Texas, but they won't. They are not on our side.

That is probably the case, but you still have knuckle heads here that refuse to acknowledge that vote fraud exists even when the statistical anomaly is so blatant it fly's in the face of all probability.

 

[SteveMartin]

The math doesn't lie, even if the morons do.

 

[syborius]

i disagree with you strongly, and partially agree w/ the individual you are seeking to antagonize.

do you have something to say that might refute his claims, or are you just going to shout "troll" and "red herring?"

You should look up what red herring actually means. This is not a question about where RP's focus is, was, or had been or HQ incompetence for that matter, the question is about probability and statical anomaly which that person completely failed to address, or maybe doesn't understand the significance of, which is exactly what this whole freakin thread is about.

 

[SteveMartin]

Let's not let the "HQ incompetence" theory get started....it's worse than that...

 

[SteveMartin]

This is the most important thread ever posted on any Ron Paul message board anywhere. We need to find out why HQ won't even comment on blatant vote fraud (even though RP himself did in an indirect way in that nearby thread about his most recent statement).

If the grassroots can FORCE the people in Arlington to do their jobs on this ONE ISSUE, we can accomplish something yet and WIN THE WHITE HOUSE--with or without them. If they refuse to acknowlegde this, we will KNOW the truth about what really happened there, and RP will eventually take action.

 

[golfboy]

i wonder if we will play the voter fraud card at some point in the future?

This is something the grassroots or a PAC should be working on though.

 

[SteveMartin]

It is something Arlington HQ better be working on, or they are traitors--pure and simple.

It is something the RNC (and TPTB generally) better be hoping they aren't working on.

Meanwhile, the rest of us need to organize our own analysis effort, and not wait for anybody in Arlington.

 

[SteveMartin]

bump

 

[SteveMartin]

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[Tedhunter]

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[nc4rp]

think about it, what is the single most important aspect of waging a vote fraud?

its the consistent numbers to manipulate public perception.

This was the illuminati's Rosetta stone. Polls = 5-7% votes = 5-7% across the board mostly (ala cell phone and internal diebold modem-chip?)

The reason this is the single most important aspect is that it prevents mass awareness of the fraud and circumvents a national inquiry/revolt.

with the constant numbers people (millions and millions of people) will say "well the votes matched the polls and Ron Paul is too libertarian for the GoP blah blah"

So the illuminati dont care how hard we fight, how right we are, how deserving the country is, etc as long as they maintain control and prevent mass revolt.

their manipulation of public perception through media and vote hacking has insured then against a public revolt on a mass scale. and leaves Paul supporters kind of disorganized without the resources to fight the CFR.

Ill wager that the stealing of this election was so simple and elementary to them, and we havnt a clue or resource to fight it (except Albert Howard is STILL fighting in NH. he was our one saving grace but they had a trillion $ to manipulate NH vote with Hoppy and Butch etc)

So were working from underneath the plane of this election and working upwards.

The CFR is working from above with Trillions of dollars and just throwing money into every crook's hands that can hack the election (and into every law enforcement pyramid) Its easy for them to throw around trillions$ and with these OLD alliances they have built up since the corperate gangs took over.

for us its hard, tryiong to scrape up $25 to send to Paul, and still have money to pay the electric bill.

We are like a ford escort racing a lamborghini.

CFR/trilateral/fremasons/illuminati/etc has its fangs sunk so deep into the nation; we are fooling ourselves if we think we can bowl over the tide. im not saying give up, but DO NOT expect a fair fight. in fact expect to be racing a lamborghini in your ford escort running on 3 cylinders.


PS in my precinct we had 8 delegate slots. 5 people showed up. 3 became delegates. 2 of those were Ron Paul delegates. So i dont for one second beleive that Mcain has the delegates they say he does. (thats part of the manipulation of public perception though) See yall in Minnesota September 1st.

and what happens when mcain delegates dont show up and all our alternates get the slots?

THEN we get to give the speeches to the PEOPLE at the Convention. I think thats the cross-point at which Lincoln won. (Paul a long long long-shot? sure. but thats nothing new)

 

[rancher89]

think about it, what is the single most important aspect of waging a vote fraud?

its the consistent numbers to manipulate public perception.

This was the illuminati's Rosetta stone. Polls = 5-7% votes = 5-7% across the board mostly (ala cell phone and internal diebold modem-chip?)

The reason this is the single most important aspect is that it prevents mass awareness of the fraud and circumvents a national inquiry/revolt.

with the constant numbers people (millions and millions of people) will say "well the votes matched the polls and Ron Paul is too libertarian for the GoP blah blah"

So the illuminati dont care how hard we fight, how right we are, how deserving the country is, etc as long as they maintain control and prevent mass revolt.

their manipulation of public perception through media and vote hacking has insured then against a public revolt on a mass scale. and leaves Paul supporters kind of disorganized without the resources to fight the CFR.

Ill wager that the stealing of this election was so simple and elementary to them, and we havnt a clue or resource to fight it (except Albert Howard is STILL fighting in NH. he was our one saving grace but they had a trillion $ to manipulate NH vote with Hoppy and Butch etc)

So were working from underneath the plane of this election and working upwards.

The CFR is working from above with Trillions of dollars and just throwing money into every crook's hands that can hack the election (and into every law enforcement pyramid) Its easy for them to throw around trillions$ and with these OLD alliances they have built up since the corperate gangs took over.

for us its hard, tryiong to scrape up $25 to send to Paul, and still have money to pay the electric bill.

We are like a ford escort racing a lamborghini.

CFR/trilateral/fremasons/illuminati/etc has its fangs sunk so deep into the nation; we are fooling ourselves if we think we can bowl over the tide. im not saying give up, but DO NOT expect a fair fight. in fact expect to be racing a lamborghini in your ford escort running on 3 cylinders.


PS in my precinct we had 8 delegate slots. 5 people showed up. 3 became delegates. 2 of those were Ron Paul delegates. So i dont for one second beleive that Mcain has the delegates they say he does. (thats part of the manipulation of public perception though) See yall in Minnesota September 1st.

and what happens when mcain delegates dont show up and all our alternates get the slots?

THEN we get to give the speeches to the PEOPLE at the Convention. I think thats the cross-point at which Lincoln won. (Paul a long long long-shot? sure. but thats nothing new)

I'm with you 100% See you in Minnesota!!

 

[SteveMartin]

There will be people at the national convention saying they are McCain delegates who aren't even from the United States. Count on it.

They make the rules and break them at their whim and pleasure.

 

[SteveMartin]

From: "Virginia Brooks" <[email protected]>
Date: March 6, 2008 8:28:41 AM EST
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: VERY important: Forwarded: Numbers don't add up in Texas...








Of course it is fraud, no other answer to this, when you read about Ron Paul's own district in Tx....Virginia


(I am forwarding to all CD captains, and as many Ohio groups as possible):


Very Important on this thread: so keep the thread moving through the groups.


_I had a Gentleman call me when I got Home from the Kent Meeting last night from New York. _


He happens to be publishing a book with photos of all of the 2004 Election Fraud Evidence, that was supposed to be published by a company in Kent State? He literally has the photographs of burned and otherwise mutilated, destroyed ballots. He is very familiar with how to follow the fraud, due to his research in the book. I would call him an investigative Journalist, in Election Fraud.
I don't know him from Adam.
_He called me last night, from New York, upset about huge numbers of precincts in Texas, where there were thousands of registered voters, and ZERO votes at all, with 100 of the Precincts reporting in_.
He repeated so I understood.
He is saying there are precincts with over 2000 registered voters, and the official count is saying NO one voted at all in that precinct after the precinct has reported in officially!!
He said he has been studying elections now, for years. He has NEVER seen anything like this.
He said the number of zero precincts, are especially High in the Panhandle of Texas.
He also mentioned what Ron here is saying in this post.
Ron Paul got more votes in his precinct for Congressman, than he did for president in the same precinct. He said, by huge amounts.
Even More important, and possibly something we can all do to help... with this Ron Paul Fraud.


This investigative Journalist is just about to publish the research on the fraud, and now, the company that was going to print with his book, has suddenly pulled out, and refusing to publish.
He was supposed to be doing a book signing at Kent on the anniversary of the shootings, that happens annually there... I guess.
He now has to self publish, which, given the situation, and the fact that he is the only one with his "manual", puts him in a great deal of danger.
Maybe I am a little paranoid for him, because of my past experience with revolution researchers and publishers that have suddenly gone missing, or suddenly commit suicide, over the past ten years. But while we were on the phone, we were getting echoes, then, three or four voice cut outs for ten, then 20 then 30 seconds. Finally, we were disconnected, and could not get reconnected.
I did ask him to write to me so I could foreword the Texas research he did to all, and let you hear about the Ron Paul Information, since I know all of you would care a lot.
I explained to him how to get a hold of the Ron Paul Texas Meetups, so they could investigate, and move on the situation, if they chose.
I am hoping for an email from him this morning.
I will be trying to call him back all day today.
So please to the degree you can, keep an eye on this thread. If I get him on the phone, I will let you know. He needs some help getting his information out, and wants to investigate the Ron Paul campaign and election fraud, on a larger scale.
Will follow up.... and if he does send an email, I will be sure to post it to you all
Linda




Ron wrote:
They want us to believe that McCain won Texas in a landslide. A place where I have never heard anyone mention his name, never seen so much as a bumper sticker, and clearly a state that is covered by Ron Paul signs. Just for the sake of discussion let's say it's possible. What I find seriously hard to believe is this:


* Ron Paul got 70% of the vote in his district for Congress-----37,220 votes.


* In that same district they want us to believe he only got 6,697 votes for president.


* That equates to approximately ONLY 1 in 5 people that voted for him for Congress supported him for President. They can't be serious. Don't lie to me!!




Please don't take my word for it. Look at the numbers yourself.
Congressional District 14 Results - http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race4.htm


Presidential Race District 14 Results - http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race64.htm




Please pass it on. Our votes are not counted people. Restore the Republic!
Ron Paul 2008, the Revolution has begun!