Time for a BOLD MOVE: Run as a Libertarian, with 400+ congressional LP candidates.

[MN Patriot]

If Ron stays with the Republican Party and fails to receive the nomination, which is highly likely at this point, the Ron Paul revolution dies in another month.

Then suppose he does win re-election to Congress for another 2 years. He will go back to being ignored by the rest of the country until he retires. He is 72 years old. Who will take his place?

If this revolution is to continue for years and not days, Ron should announce, sooner than later, that he intends to run as a Libertarian. The LP has ballot access in many states, and Ron has run for the LP before.

Then the LP needs to run a candidate for EVERY congressional race, so that Ron has local grassroots support in every congressional district in the country.

I know many people think he will never win as a third party candidate, and I agree it would be tough to do at this point. But we need to build a party that can compete with the Democrats and Republicans. Every LP campaign should be an effort to build that party so that in 2 years we CAN start winning elections.

In a 3 way race you only need 34% to win, not 51%. And who cares if a Republican or Democrat wins? There is hardly any difference anymore.

http://www.lp.org

 

[losinglife]

If Ron stays with the Republican Party and fails to receive the nomination, which is highly likely at this point, the Ron Paul revolution dies in another month.

Seriously ... stop with that shit you asshat. He WILL win the republican nomination.. that is all

 

[american empire]

Seriously ... stop with that shit you asshat. He WILL win the republican nomination.. that is all
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look every idea should be encouraged and argued reasonably ...Patriot I like the bigger picture of what you are saying and injecting the third party( a real force)....but for now lets stick with the campaign and get through to feb 5th ...we will have plenty of time to ponder this till November....great idea though ...and I support it ...but not yet

 

[losinglife]

look every idea should be encouraged and argued reasonably ...Patriot I like the bigger picture of what you are saying and injecting the third party( a real force)....but for now lets stick with the campaign and get through to feb 5th ...we will have plenty of time to ponder this till November....great idea though ...and I support it ...but not yet

if you keep talking about it, everyone will think it and start focusing on that.

ANother thing 3rd party is a waste unless we see bloomberg pop up as 3rd party. Not to mention the rumblins of a possible mccain/lieberman 3rd party

 

[Caulfield]

Seriously ... stop with that shit you asshat. He WILL win the republican nomination.. that is all

I appreciate your optimism, but sometimes a cold assessment of the facts need to be done. Paul is not an establishment candidate, and therefore, will not will in an establishment party. I'm sorry, it's not anything we can control. The America mindset of pro-government can't be changed in a matter of months. Patriot is right, this movement is going to be going on for years. Stick it out till Feb. 5, assess the situation, and then decide. This is no room for blind optimism or counter-productive pessimism. Exploring "Plan B" is neither of those two things.

 

[MN Patriot]

Seriously ... stop with that shit you asshat. He WILL win the republican nomination.. that is all

High expectations don't lead to expected results.

For proof that my prediction will come true: Ron won't get the nomination, and will probably continue getting 10% or less after this, just look at the number of people who visit the Precinct Captain section of these forums.

Few people here are doing anything besides chatting and typing. We need to get people out there doing things in the next 3 weeks. But it isn't happening.

But if Ron runs as a third party candidate, then we have all spring, summer and fall to keep hammering people with our message.

 

[Talldude1412]

If Ron stays with the Republican Party and fails to receive the nomination, which is highly likely at this point, the Ron Paul revolution dies in another month.
http://www.lp.org

Just like Goldwater Conservatism died when he lost the primaries? Is your resolve so weak that you would give up on the ideals of freedom, liberty, federalism, and the constitution just because Ron Paul lost the primaries? How insanely worthless. This movement should never have been hyped to be a one year overhaul in the workings of US gov't, from the top down no less. Those of us who are true patriots to the ideals Dr. Paul has offered this election will not be bowing out of the primaries so soon. I intend to make it known to the parties that there is a very strong group of people who have realized they are outright lying too us when they make promises of cutting the budget of the federal gov't, and only pay lip service to states rights, and small gov't. You can spew your defeatist attitudes elsewhere.

Going over to the LP might be a good idea in some ways, but we will have a hard time taking voters from the republican party if they view us as the spoilers who got Hillary into office in 09'.

 

[losinglife]

wow ... its a good thing you guys are voting for paul right?

 

[Richie]

The Libertarian Party of Maryland is planning on running a full-slate of Congressional candidates. That's not too hard, considering there's a Ron Paul Republican running for Congress in every district here.

The Libertarian Party of Texas is BOOKED, I've heard.

 

[TXcarlosTX]

If Ron stays with the Republican Party and fails to receive the nomination, which is highly likely at this point, the Ron Paul revolution dies in another month.

Then suppose he does win re-election to Congress for another 2 years. He will go back to being ignored by the rest of the country until he retires. He is 72 years old. Who will take his place?

If this revolution is to continue for years and not days, Ron should announce, sooner than later, that he intends to run as a Libertarian. The LP has ballot access in many states, and Ron has run for the LP before.

Then the LP needs to run a candidate for EVERY congressional race, so that Ron has local grassroots support in every congressional district in the country.

I know many people think he will never win as a third party candidate, and I agree it would be tough to do at this point. But we need to build a party that can compete with the Democrats and Republicans. Every LP campaign should be an effort to build that party so that in 2 years we CAN start winning elections.

In a 3 way race you only need 34% to win, not 51%. And who cares if a Republican or Democrat wins? There is hardly any difference anymore.

http://www.lp.org

i think the ron campaign might be playing the game which is fine , get as much exposure as he can on mainstream. then make a run as 3rd party or LP for the general election. by that time hundreds of thousands of people know who he is. the money will pour in. he will get on debates. HE CAN WIN.

face it people. the republican party machine doesnt want paul. the party is changing.


RON PAUL IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. WASNT THAT OUR GOAL?

and he needs to make this run before bloomfag gets in.
ok im out!!!

 

[losinglife]

The Libertarian Party of Maryland is planning on running a full-slate of Congressional candidates. That's not too hard, considering there's a Ron Paul Republican running for Congress in every district here.

The Libertarian Party of Texas is BOOKED, I've heard.

and thats how the party needs to start... locally then up to the big dogs.

 

[Caulfield]

The Libertarian Party of Maryland is planning on running a full-slate of Congressional candidates. That's not too hard, considering there's a Ron Paul Republican running for Congress in every district here.

The Libertarian Party of Texas is BOOKED, I've heard.

They are the first state in the nation to file candidates, and the LPT filed 210 candidates, covering ALL statewide races and a good percentage of federal races. The press release was put up on the web site yesterday: http://www.lp.org/media/article_556.shtml

 

[MN Patriot]

Just like Goldwater Conservatism died when he lost the primaries? Is your resolve so weak that you would give up on the ideals of freedom, liberty, federalism, and the constitution just because Ron Paul lost the primaries? How insanely worthless. This movement should never have been hyped to be a one year overhaul in the workings of US gov't, from the top down no less. Those of us who are true patriots to the ideals Dr. Paul has offered this election will not be bowing out of the primaries so soon. I intend to make it known to the parties that there is a very strong group of people who have realized they are outright lying too us when they make promises of cutting the budget of the federal gov't, and only pay lip service to states rights, and small gov't. You can spew your defeatist attitudes elsewhere.

Going over to the LP might be a good idea in some ways, but we will have a hard time taking voters from the republican party if they view us as the spoilers who got Hillary into office in 09'.

I'm not giving up on the ideals of freedom because Ron is likely to lose the primaries. How do you arrive at that conclusion? It is just the opposite, the Republican and Democrat parties have given up on freedom, it is time to give up on them.

So what if the LP is a spoiler for the Republicans? Give all Americans a REAL choice between more freedom and less freedom. Then any Republican who is more interested in principle than party can join/vote for the LP.

 

[kyleAF]

No LP run.

I'll vote for him anyway, but running on an LP platform isn't the point. He needs to expose his message to the typical 2-party system.

 

[kmforpaul]

The problem with modern-day libertarians is they have no name recognition what-so-ever. This hurts them in the media, which translates over in the elections. If Ron Paul can pull a large army of supporters to get excited about freedom and the constitution then maybe libertarians can get a say in congress.

 

[MN Patriot]

i think the ron campaign might be playing the game which is fine , get as much exposure as he can on mainstream. then make a run as 3rd party or LP for the general election. by that time hundreds of thousands of people know who he is. the money will pour in. he will get on debates. HE CAN WIN.

face it people. the republican party machine doesnt want paul. the party is changing.

RON PAUL IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. WASNT THAT OUR GOAL?

Yes, Ron Paul in the general election for president is much better for the country than Ron Paul running for his house district in Texas.

Ron is in the process of creating a legacy of how a true patriot should lead and govern. He won't be around forever, the revolution needs to continue. We need to learn to emulate his fabulous leadership.

 

[hawkeyenick]

The Libertarian Party of Maryland is planning on running a full-slate of Congressional candidates. That's not too hard, considering there's a Ron Paul Republican running for Congress in every district here.

The Libertarian Party of Texas is BOOKED, I've heard.

You can actually vote straight ticket libertarian in some areas of texas, they are so close to breaking the threshold in certain areas there...just a little push and it's ours

 

[MN Patriot]

The problem with modern-day libertarians is they have no name recognition what-so-ever. This hurts them in the media, which translates over in the elections. If Ron Paul can pull a large army of supporters to get excited about freedom and the constitution then maybe libertarians can get a say in congress.

We need to copy the successful results of Jefferson County Iowa, where Ron won. I noticed there is a precinct in New Hampshire that he won, also. Find out what the people did there and repeat it in every congressional district so we can get our ideas out there.

Yes, most people still don't know what a libertarian is, but the word and the idea is increasing in exposure. I've seen it gradually get mentioned more for the last 10 years.

 

[rightobeleftalone]

Let's stick with the gop until super Tuesday. If Ron doesn't get the nod then we will implore him to run 3rd party. That will keep the message going along with the Revolution.

 

[DrNoZone]

The LP will NEVER build their party to a point where they can actually start winning elections (dog catcher and county water board doesn't count). They refuse to see that their platform and their membership pledge reduces the party to nothing more than a membership club for anarcho-capitalists. And if you're a committed anarcho-capitalist, you believe that voting is violence anyhow, so WTF is the point in having a political party? Oh yeah, to "educate" people. Why not just start your own school? Or think tank? Why waste time pretending you're a real political party? The LP thinks they have the corner on what a "real" libertarian is, and anyone who doesn't fit their definition isn't welcome.

Forget about the LP, it's never going anywhere (and yes, I am a past member...gave up my membership 6 years ago). If you are interested in a REAL third party, go over to Holistic Politics and start reading. The gentleman who runs the site, as well as myself and others who are interested, plan to start a third party from scratch that will actually win elections and speak to a HUGE market of voters that is NOT being served by ANY of the current parties, major or minor.