They are dogging RP hard

Has anyone listened to: "Paul, what is he good for?" It's a retrospective montage of quotes done to the song" War, what is it good for"? It sux.

I registered, and put that I am a Ron Paul supporter. Do you think they will admit me? :rolleyes:

They might admit you, but I doubt it is worth it... have you read the last couple pages of this thread?
 
Wow. I have an email saying they approved me, then when I tried to post, they banned me before I submitted my first post.
 
I can't even get back to it now. I guess when they ban you, you have no access at all.

Yes, it appears to be an IP ban... shrug.. They mustn't let in dangerous ideas such as ours.. Maybe theyve only watched enough news to be at the point where Glenn Beck called Ron Paul suppoters terrorists.. Maybe they need another year or two to catch up.
:rolleyes:
 
They tracked us back here and a mod PM'd a bunch of us, explaining that Chimpsy does not want the RP agenda on their site and will ban anyone promoting it. He was respectful, and almost apologetic, but admin on that site is not going to let us talk there, regardless. As Mike Mitrosky said, it is their private property...
 
Thanks for the updates.

Greetings and Salutations,

There is a common misconception among many paleoconservatives that those in the Republican party who support - at least in theory, if not in current practice - the policy of preemptive military engagement in the Middle East, are largely accepting of most of the policies embraced by the current Republican party leadership. This is entirely untrue, and in my estimation, downright silly. As a representative (of sorts) of the Republican Revolution network on this fine forum, I can assure you all that the vast majority of those Chimpsy conservatives with which I have had the pleasure to become acquainted over the years are anything but pleased with the direction of the Republican hierarchy... especially as that direction pertains to government spending, border security, free market autonomy and the cancer of political correctness.

I would also like to add that while there are many devout Christians within the Chimpsy movement at this time, few of them seriously believe that one's religious perspective should overshadow one's obligation as an American to adhere to the foundational principles of our Constitution in matters of governmental policy. That is to say that while religion and politics can never be severed entirely in the minds of leaders - nor, in my opinion, should they be - one's faith is only a guiding factor in one's decision-making process, and should never nullify the necessity for sound Constitutional prerequisits in these respects.

Clearly there remains a deep divide between the aforementioned Chimpsy conservatives (or Chimpsyites, as we like to be called) and Ron Paul-supporting paleoconservatives (or Paulies, as we oft' refer to you). This chasm lies between those of you who adhere to a strict non-interventionist view relative to American foreign relations, and the rest of us who think you folks are entirely full of shit. This gulf I fear will not be bridged anytime soon, but hey, my own sister has never really forgiven me completely for calling her an insufferable bitch back in 1973, and we still manage not to throw food at each other during Thanksgiving festivities, so I figure there's always hope for reconciliation.

By the way, we Chimpsyites take great offense to being called neocons, and would rather our Paulie conterparts just kick us squarely in the nuts instead. In our collective estimation, the word neocon is a derogatory term used mostly by leftists as a means of demeaning all conservatives, regardless of their foreign policy views, and if future positive relations between our two camps is to ever become a reality, I would strongly urge everyone who reads this post to refrain from referring to me or my Chimpsyite brethren as such.

Oh, and just in case you were wondering, we're also not Zionists merely because we have decided to side with Israel over a pack of hate-filled, notoriously anti-Semitic, and completely despicable Arabs, who call themselves Palestinians and single-mindedly seek the ultimate destruction of the only pre-Iraq War democracy in the Middle East. If giving billions of dollars in aid to that tiny Republic is something that you believe America shouldn't do, then I say FAIR ENOUGH, but please do not pretend that the Israelis and the "Palestinians" are somehow moral equals in this fight. The "Palestinians" wouldn't recognize moral decency if the concept were water and they were dying of thirst.

But then, that's just my opinion. I welcome yours.

Most sincerely,

Edward - your humble Chimpsy ambassador
 
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Edward, would you care to explain your comment regarding those of us having a non-interventionist foreign policy being "entirely full of shit"? On what premise do you base your comment?
 
Might Edward the humble Chimpsy ambassador be willing to drop by RPFs to read a few responses and perhaps answer a few questions? ;)
 
Might Edward the humble Chimpsy ambassador be willing to drop by RPFs to read a few responses and perhaps answer a few questions? ;)


Might he? What I don't get is why anyone would have a forum and not allow a discourse of ideas? I mean how boring would it be to just talk to people who always agreed with you? How do you learn anything? What are they afaid of? Getting their feelings hurt?
 
Greetings and Salutations,

There is a common misconception among many paleoconservatives that those in the Republican party who support - at least in theory, if not in current practice - the policy of preemptive military engagement in the Middle East, are largely accepting of most of the policies embraced by the current Republican party leadership. This is entirely untrue, and in my estimation, downright silly. As a representative (of sorts) of the Republican Revolution network on this fine forum, I can assure you all that the vast majority of those Chimpsy conservatives with which I have had the pleasure to become acquainted over the years are anything but pleased with the direction of the Republican hierarchy... especially as that direction pertains to government spending, border security, free market autonomy and the cancer of political correctness.

I would also like to add that while there are many devout Christians within the Chimpsy movement at this time, few of them seriously believe that one's religious perspective should overshadow one's obligation as an American to adhere to the foundational principles of our Constitution in matters of governmental policy. That is to say that while religion and politics can never be severed entirely in the minds of leaders - nor, in my opinion, should they be - one's faith is only a guiding factor in one's decision-making process, and should never nullify the necessity for sound Constitutional prerequisits in these respects.

Clearly there remains a deep divide between the aforementioned Chimpsy conservatives (or Chimpsyites, as we like to be called) and Ron Paul-supporting paleoconservatives (or Paulies, as we oft' refer to you). This chasm lies between those of you who adhere to a strict non-interventionist view relative to American foreign relations, and the rest of us who think you folks are entirely full of shit. This gulf I fear will not be bridged anytime soon, but hey, my own sister has never really forgiven me completely for calling her an insufferable bitch back in 1973, and we still manage not to throw food at each other during Thanksgiving festivities, so I figure there's always hope for reconciliation.

By the way, we Chimpsyites take great offense to being called neocons, and would rather our Paulie conterparts just kick us squarely in the nuts instead. The word neocon is derogatory term used mostly by leftists as a means of demeaning all conservatives, regardless of their foreign policy views, and if future positive relations between our two camps is to ever become a reality, I would strongly urge everyone who reads this post to refrain from referring to me or my Chimpsyite brethren as such.

Oh, and just in case you were wondering, we're also not Zionists merely because we have decided to side with Israel over a pack of hate-filled, notoriously anti-Semitic, and completely despicable Arabs, who call themselves Palestinians and single-mindedly seek the ultimate destruction of the only pre-Iraq War democracy in the Middle East. If giving billions of dollars in aid to that tiny Republic is something that you believe America shouldn't do, then I say FAIR ENOUGH, but please do not pretend that the Israelis and the "Palestinians" are somehow moral equals in this fight. The "Palestinians" wouldn't recognize moral decency if the concept were water and they were dying of thirst.

But then, that's just my opinion. I welcome yours.

Most sincerely,

Edward - your humble Chimpsy ambassador

Yawn. Would you like some book recommendations on the concept of blow-back and a dictionary so you can communicate your opinion without cussing like a poorly raised school-boy?

Fact of the matter your views on foreign policy are not truly republican, no matter how much you wish and believe them to be. We can debate this topic if you'd like, but I'd hope you could do so without personal insults. If the way you talk to your family during debate is any indication of the way you support an opinion, perhaps we'd be better off if you left. Keep in mind, the lack of tact presented by you and your members are polarizing and destructive to the party. Correction; the party that you hijacked.
 
DarcPrynce,

That's "Paulians" to you, pal. Harumph! Okay, got that out.

On a very serious note, let's say both sides -- Israel and the Palestinians -- are killing each other equally. (The news I've heard does not put the fatalaties nor the victims' ages in proximity, but let's say that for the sake of argument.) Who is forcing us to side with either of the killers?

Are you prolife? I am. That means I'm against the taking of all innocent life. Would an abortionist who commits fewer abortions that the one down the street be okay? (If you're prolife. If you're not, I'll have to come up with a different argument. :-)
 
Wow. I have an email saying they approved me, then when I tried to post, they banned me before I submitted my first post.
I signed up, too-- a few days ago. I haven't posted anything but I have gotten a number of friend requests already.

If I could find the account delete button I would use it. I do not want to be associated with the rubbish on that site. Honestly these people are not conservatives and they are the problem with the GOP. By continually labeling Ron Paul supporters as "liberals" they show that they are at the very best ignorant.

Yesterday I actually really believed that we had been conned-- that the whole site was a parody reminiscent of the playground, etc. Who knows, maybe it is. Maybe it's a wonkette craporama out to mess with us specifically.
 
Edward, would you care to explain your comment regarding those of us having a non-interventionist foreign policy being "entirely full of shit"? On what premise do you base your comment?

A very good question indeed, dear lady, and I am more than happy to answer it for you.

It is my considered opinion that we do not live in a world where we can simply retract from the policies which have lead us to this time and place, and then pretend that in doing so we have reversed the course upon which we've long sailed. There are ideological views and then there is cold reality, and it is the latter upon which I base my contentions. Would that we could turn back the clock and simply draw to a close the play we see unfolding before us, but unfortunately we cannot.

Suffice it to say that non-interventionism, for all its merits, is a non-starter in this day and age.
 
A very good question indeed, dear lady, and I am more than happy to answer it for you.

It is my considered opinion that we do not live in a world where we can simply retract from the policies which have lead us to this time and place, and then pretend that in doing so we have reversed the course upon which we've long sailed. There are ideological views and then there is cold reality, and it is the latter upon which I base my contentions. Would that we could turn back the clock and simply draw to a close the play we see unfolding before us, but unfortunately we cannot.

Suffice it to say that non-interventionism, for all its merits, is a non-starter in this day and age.

Do you have any evidence to support your views? There are entire books, studies, and experiments on the concept of blow-back, which is the basis for my non-interventionist view. The actions we take always come back to bite us. Regardless, even if you DO support interventionism, our Constitution pretty much prohibits it.

Do you realize we've worked alongside those we now call terrorists? Did you know Israel had roots in Hamas?
 
Greetings and Salutations,

There is a common misconception among many paleoconservatives that those in the Republican party who support - at least in theory, if not in current practice - the policy of preemptive military engagement in the Middle East, are largely accepting of most of the policies embraced by the current Republican party leadership.

I disagree. I think that foreign policy is the one area where any disagreement simply isn't tolerated by the neoconservatives.
It is my considered opinion that we do not live in a world where we can simply retract from the policies which have lead us to this time and place, and then pretend that in doing so we have reversed the course upon which we've long sailed.

SO the same Clinton policy that the GOP openly decried, (a staple of President Bush's 1992 platform was non-intervention) is now non-retractable? So, either the GOP was wrong 8 short years ago, or it is wrong now.

Fortunately, 70% of the country agrees with the paelo philosophy, that it is wrong now, despite desperate attempts to brand it as "dangerous isolationism."

However, and I'm talkin' to you Libertarians, there is an equal tendency to do the same thing on the other side of the argument. I think that by the time Obama is finished, the GOP will be united against Obama's policies. I had expected that the rebuilding of the party would include concessions on both the far right and the far left of the GOP, but apparently nobody but me is ready for that.

/rant
 
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Yawn. Would you like some book recommendations on the concept of blow-back and a dictionary so you can communicate your opinion without cussing like a poorly raised school-boy?

Fact of the matter your views on foreign policy are not truly republican, no matter how much you wish and believe them to be. We can debate this topic if you'd like, but I'd hope you could do so without personal insults. If the way you talk to your family during debate is any indication of the way you support an opinion, perhaps we'd be better off if you left. Keep in mind, the lack of tact presented by you and your members are polarizing and destructive to the party. Correction; the party that you hijacked.

Wow... the concepts of humorlessness and arrogance are certainly not lost on you, are they?
 
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