The "TikTok ban" goes beyond TikTok. It is another huge step toward total control.

[TheTexan]

The 100+ Republicans and fake freedom advocates that pushed this bill in the House should be voted out....

"voted out", yes, ahem

 

[TheCount]

I didn't say "highly", I said "more ... than".

I think highly.

Imagine a world in which our politicians are indebted to Chinese interests to the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more.

 

[unknown]

Voting will save us!

 

[unknown]

https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1768031398865342941

 

[unknown]

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1768441414667358405

 

[CaptUSA]

Imagine a world in which our politicians are indebted to Chinese interests to the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more.

Imagine...

 

[Snowball]

Yes, I am well aware of that as well.

If I had my way, firing squads would be too good for those Quislings and traitors.

But the fact remains, it was a Chinese state run facility that finished the gain of function work, released this virus on the world and then lied about it after the fact.

Must be why the US troops from Fort Detrick all had the virus before they even set foot in that Wuhan hotel.

 

[unknown]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1768692526523777065

 

[WarriorLiberty]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1768692526523777065

0:21
Rep. Dan Crenshaw is lying through his face.

This is someone who supports Ukraine more than the American citizens.

dont you just love the hypocrisy of these Fraud Republicans?

 

[TheCount]

Imagine...

Pennies in comparison.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I think highly.

Imagine a world in which our politicians are indebted to Chinese interests to the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more.

Whether "highly" or not, it's still something to be concerned about far more than some damned phone app one has to choose to install and use - especially when it comes to the question of using government force to prevent the latter.

I don't care what one thinks about TikTok, it is beyond me how anyone who gives a damn about freedom can think it is at all tolerable (let alone a good idea) to allow the likes of Joe Biden, Dan Crenshaw, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Mitch McConnell, et al. to dictate whether other people should be allowed to use it.

Here are some questions for those (such as [MENTION=32418]69360[/MENTION] or [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] who say they oppose this particular bill but would nevertheless support banning TikTok specifically:

1. If TikTok is to be banned because it is "controlled" by China, are other apps that are "controlled" by China also to be banned? (If not, why not?)
2. What about apps that are merely "influenced" or "guided" by China? Shouldn't they be banned, too? (If not, why not? If so, by what standard?)
3. What about apps that are "controlled" (or "influenced" or "guided") by other countries (such as Russia or Israel)? Shouldn't they be banned, too? (If not, why not? If so, which ones and by what standard?)
4. What about apps that are "controlled" (or "influenced" or "guided") by native groups or organizations that are or could be deemed "objectionable" (such as commie-symps, or antisemites, or so on)? Shouldn't they be banned, too? (If not, why not? If so, which ones and by what standard?)
5. Who gets to decide that an app is "controlled" (or "influenced" or "guided") by whomever such that it should (by whatever standard) be banned for use by anyone else?
6. What are to be the consequences if anyone referenced in any possible answer to (5) makes an erroneous "false positive" decision, and how are those consequences to be effected?
7. Why should anyone referenced in any possible answer to (5) ever be given (let alone trusted with) that kind of power?
8. Given whatever answers to the previous questions - and whatever one might expect the benefits to be - is it really at all reasonable to expect that the ultimate results will actually be anything but a net loss for liberty?

https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1768441414667358405

 

[Anti Federalist]

Given whatever answers to the previous questions - and whatever one might expect the benefits to be - is it really at all reasonable to expect that the ultimate results will actually be anything but a net loss for liberty?

Yes, it is reasonable, because we are at war for our very survival.

Our survival includes the preservation of western civilization, unique and alone in its defense of the individual and the rights thereof.

If we do not accept that there will have to be sacrifices made, and a collective effort made, and harden ourselves, in order to defend that civilization, then the forces of global Marxism will win, and a 1000 year dark age will descend across the globe, resulting in tyranny and loss of liberty, globally, for centuries.

I was very specific in saying I would support shutting down TikTok due to the fact that it is toxic mind poison and enemy propaganda.

I would support no manner of "mission creep" past that point.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Trump on TikTok: ‘There’s a Danger to Banning it with Freedom of Speech’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...-danger-to-banning-it-with-freedom-of-speech/

IAN HANCHETT 15 Mar 2024

During portions of an interview with the Fox News Channel that took place on Thursday and was aired on Friday’s “Special Report,” 2024 Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump said “there’s a danger to banning” TikTok “with freedom of speech.” And “what can you do is, let them sell TikTok, let them sell it in the market, maybe get a good price, maybe not get a good price, I don’t know, but take it away from China control. But I think China controls Facebook,” as well.

Kurtz said, [relevant remarks begin around 2:30] “After the House voted to overwhelmingly ban TikTok if it doesn’t cut ties with its China-based parent company, Trump told Fox News why he no longer favors a government ban that he pushed as President on national security grounds, citing the free exchange of ideas.”

He then played a clip of Trump saying, “But there’s a danger to banning it with freedom of speech. I found Facebook to be extremely dishonest. And what would happen is, if you ban TikTok, if you take it away, we have a new concept, but if you take it away, those people are going to go into Facebook. And Facebook, in my opinion, was worse than TikTok by a lot.”

Kurtz then stated, “Trump, who recently met with philanthropist Jeff Yass, says he didn’t know the billionaire owns a stake in TikTok’s parent firm.”

He then played a clip of Trump saying, “f you’re going to do it to TikTok, do it to Facebook, and what can you do is, let them sell TikTok, let them sell it in the market, maybe get a good price, maybe not get a good price, I don’t know, but take it away from China control. But I think China controls Facebook, also, because they have tremendous power in that company.”

 

[unknown]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1768692526523777065

Not for nothing, was thinking about this, Tucker has a LOT of reach.

I love that he called out Eyepatch McCain.

 

[Intrepid]

Not for nothing, was thinking about this, Tucker has a LOT of reach.

I love that he called out Eyepatch McCain.

Wasn't Crenshaw one of the good guys when he first came on the scene? What the hell happened to him?

 

[Valli6]

Wasn't Crenshaw one of the good guys when he first came on the scene? What the hell happened to him?

No. Never. He was just pushed as a good guy because he was in the service - "HE LOST AN EYE! HE'S A HERO!" - and they hoped that would be enough to fool everyone - and it did fool many for a while. Pretended for a while, probably cast a few decent votes in the beginning.

Just like how Rubio was pushed as a "tea party" candidate at the time, even though he was just another obedient young neocon.

Always beware of the fast-rising-star gop darlings - including the females*.
They are always, ALWAYS, obedient, malleable, young neocons!


(*every female on Trump's VP short list except maybe Tulsi Gabbard)

 

[TheCount]

Wasn't Crenshaw one of the good guys when he first came on the scene? What the hell happened to him?

He "had all the right enemies" and "made all the right people mad"

 

[Occam's Banana]

Biden & Trump Split on New TikTok Ban. PLUS: Briahna Joy Gray on Israel-Gaza, Dems 2024, and More | SYSTEM UPDATE #241
https://rumble.com/v4i0ygf-system-update-241.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 08 March 2024}

CLIP:

Trump Rejects Biden-Endorsed TikTok Ban
https://rumble.com/v4i7ld8-trump-rejects-biden-endorsed-tiktok-ban.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 09 March 2024}

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[Occam's Banana]

Bipartisan House Vote Pushes Deep State TikTok Ban—Who Really Benefits? w/ Michael Tracey | SYSTEM UPDATE #242
https://rumble.com/v4j9vyc-system-update-show-242.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 14 March 2024}

CLIPS:

A Vital Question on This New, Bipartisan TikTok Ban
https://rumble.com/v4jfjdc-a-vital-question-on-this-new-bipartisan-tiktok-ban.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 15 March 2024}

Is Biden Owned by China—Or a TikTok-Banning Patriot?
https://rumble.com/v4jg6lc-is-biden-owned-by-chinaor-a-tiktok-banning-patriot.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 15 March 2024}

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[devil21]

Total coincidence I'm sure that WEF Davos members Warner and Thune introduce this bill a couple months after the 2024 Davos main theme was censorship. Total coincidence.