GunnyFreedom
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The true movement is toward freedom. People who claim to be "Social Libertarians" and support universal health care, people who think Dennis Kuchinich would be a good VP even though he supports socialistic ideals... if this group is made up largely of people with those beliefs, then we are doomed to be nothing more than Republicrats in the end.
My perspective is that there are a LOT of folks here that support those views, and if that's true, we're really just rallying around the good doctor, not forging a movement toward freedom that will outlast us all.
That is the ideological failure that I fear... that people really don't realize what freedom is.
Not everyone who supports RP is a hard-core libertarian like we are. There are many who support RP and like Kucinich, not because DK is 'libertarian' but because he is constitutionalist.
Do not think that merely because RP attracts *both* libertarians and constitutionalists (of which I happen to be both) means that he *shouldn't* attract liberal constitutionalists (ie Kucinich) and conservative constitutionalists (ie Gingritch) as well as Libertarians.
The core of RP's support indeed comes from libertarians, while also drawing constitutionalists from both sides of the L-R spectrum. Now, while the Constitution is a very libertarian document, do not think that just because someone is a constitutionalist automatically implies that they are libertarian.
Myself, I have always been a constitutionalist libertarian, I voted 'yes' that taxation is theft. I would caveat that to say that some taxations are not -- excise tax, use tax, some tariffs, and so on; while income and property taxes are obviously and obscenely theft.
Point being, while RP is a huge bonus for the Liberty movement, he also draws constitutionalists from without the liberty movement. This can only be a good thing. say 70% of RP supporters are libertarian minded, with 15% leftist constitutionalists, and 15% rightist constitutionalists.
In no way, shape, or form can that be a 'bad thing' for the liberty movement. IMHO