The LP Sold Out: Nominates Anti-Freedom Drug Warrior Bob Barr!

[Menthol Patch]

I'm saddened and disturbed to hear that the LP has nominated Bob Barr the neo-con anti-freedom drug warrior as their presidential nominee. It's absolutely insane that the party of principle would nominate someone that is responsible for putting thousands or tens of thousands of innocent people in prison when they did not violate the rights of others. One fundamental principle of the Libertarian Party is that the drug war is insane and that everyone has a right to put what they want into their own bodies. To nominate someone that supported the Drug War and was one of it's biggest supporters is crazy!

THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY MIGHT AS WELL HAVE NOMINATED AN IRS AGENT!

Also, Bob Barr was so unprincipled that he voted for the Patriot Act. Bob Barr is an absolute NEO-CON and the fact that the LP nominated him should make true Libertarians vomit!

He also does not want to abolish the income tax and replace it with NOTHING! He actually supports the "Fair Tax" which would put a huge sales tax on all citizens!

It's sad that some libertarians are willing to give up their principles in order to try and get votes!

The Libertarian Party just died today.

 

[gerryb]

Here's hoping to the Constitution party...

 

[Menthol Patch]

Apparently, he still supports the War on Drugs because there is no mention of ending the drug war on his website.

 

[ClayTrainor]

if he supports the war on drugs, voted for the iraq war and patriot act, it's pretty hard to support this guy.

i want to like him, but i now trust him about as much as obama.

Baldwin should get the support of the revolution this election imo.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

"The Libertarian Party just died today."


- The Libertarian Party just GREW today.

I'm not huge Barr fan but his notoriety will get hundreds of thousands of people exposed to the Libertarian Party that would've NEVER looked at it before.

He's not a "pure" libertarian but pure libertarians are what has kept the party in the gutter since it's inception. You have to be realistic and look at this from the general dumbed down public's perspective. They will will not support a pure libertarian overnight. That's too big of a plunge for people. They have to be spoon fed a little at a time. This Libertarian ticket will get ALOT more exposure, thus empowering the party which over time will result in ALOT more people becoming "pure" libertarians.

You take what you can get right now. It's not like they have a chance to win anyway. Our number 1 goal at this juncture is exposure to the liberty message.

 

[familydog]

But he has an (L) next to his name! Who cares if he waffles and isn't clear on all his positions!

 

[Menthol Patch]

The Libertarian Party died today because after today it cannot be the Libertarian Party.

The Libertarian Party would NEVER nominate someone that supports high taxes, supports big government, voted for the Patriot Act, and supports the war on drugs!

Once again, PRINCIPLES are more important than winning.

"The Libertarian Party just died today."


- The Libertarian Party just GREW today.

I'm not huge Barr fan but his notoriety will get hundreds of thousands of people exposed to the Libertarian Party that would've NEVER looked at it before.

He's not a "pure" libertarian but pure libertarians are what has kept the party in the gutter since it's inception. You have to be realistic and look at this from the general dumbed down public's perspective. They will will not support a pure libertarian overnight. That's too big of a plunge for people. They have to be spoon fed a little at a time. This Libertarian ticket will get ALOT more exposure, thus empowering the party which over time will result in ALOT more people becoming "pure" libertarians.

You take what you can get right now. It's not like they have a chance to win anyway. Our number 1 goal at this juncture is exposure to the liberty message.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Apparently, he still supports the War on Drugs because there is no mention of ending the drug war on his website.

That's exactly why Rob Kampia of Marijuana Policy Project gave a nominating speech for him and stood on the stage with him after the announcement for recognition. Two-thirds of the DC delegation work in drug policy--and Barr got the unanimous vote from our delegation every ballot (all three of them!).

 

[DrSpock]

Baldwin should get the support of the revolution this election imo.

Based upon Baldwin's stance on the issues as opposed to Barr's voting record, I believe logic clearly supports your opinion.

 

[RevolutionSD]

I'm saddened and disturbed to hear that the LP has nominated Bob Barr the neo-con anti-freedom drug warrior as their presidential nominee. It's absolutely insane that the party of principle would nominate someone that is responsible for putting thousands or tens of thousands of innocent people in prison when they did not violate the rights of others. One fundamental principle of the Libertarian Party is that the drug war is insane and that everyone has a right to put what they want into their own bodies. To nominate someone that supported the Drug War and was one of it's biggest supporters is crazy!

THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY MIGHT AS WELL HAVE NOMINATED AN IRS AGENT!

Also, Bob Barr was so unprincipled that he voted for the Patriot Act. Bob Barr is an absolute NEO-CON and the fact that the LP nominated him should make true Libertarians vomit!

He also does not want to abolish the income tax and replace it with NOTHING! He actually supports the "Fair Tax" which would put a huge sales tax on all citizens!

It's sad that some libertarians are willing to give up their principles in order to try and get votes!

The Libertarian Party just died today.

The LP is officially DONE!

Time to start working on non-political solutions to our problems.
Civil Disobedience comes to mind. Spreading philosophy, like voluntaryism, will help. We have to start over and forget about parties and governments to solve our problems.

Check out www.freedomainradio.com and see what you think.

 

[Bradley in DC]

The Libertarian Party died today because after today it cannot be the Libertarian Party.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Now that the irrational ideologue purists aren't ruining it, I can join again.

 

[AJ Antimony]

Dude, it's not like Barr is going to win the election.

 

[DrSpock]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Not that the irrational ideologue purists aren't ruining it, I can join again.

Your willingness to "send people on their way" perplexes me. Is this not about "building" a movement or does that only apply when they agree with you?

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Apparently, he still supports the War on Drugs because there is no mention of ending the drug war on his website.

- Now, do you honestly believe that the millions of anti-McCain voters are going to automatically begin supporting ending the drug war overnight? C'mon. Again, for the greater good of the movement we've got to be realistic here. If you want the liberty message to appeal to the masses you've got to talk to them like children in a language they can relate to. You don't scare away a million potential voters in the political world that we unfortunately live in by saying "LEGALIZE CRACK COCAINE". Once again, the general public doesn't read that and think "Freedom". They see that and automatically envision their children strung out on drugs or killed.

Some of you have got the wagon in front of the horse. We can't go 100% with everything if we want to eventually have real impact. We're shooting ourselves in the foot by doing that.

 

[Libertarian_Rebel]

It is time to again trust individuals to make their own decisions. At the core of libertarianism is a trust in and respect for the personal choices of every individual. All Americans should be free to decide what is best for themselves and their families. At the same time, they must bear personal responsibility for the consequences of the decisions that they make, whether those decisions prove to be good or bad.

Menthol Patch, shame on you! You and and bunch of others are really jumping to conclusions now. I for one would NEVER support any anti-drug warrior and I used to HATE Barr. He even looked evil!! BUT this is NOT THE SAME MAN ANYMORE!!!!! Don't you and any others trying to smear him get it?! The above is pasted from his web page and to me thats the principal of a Libertarian, if its not then I'm no Libertarian. STOP dwelling in his past!!! I for one think he's seen the MISTAKE he made being a right wing neo con and we wouldn't be human if we didn't make mistakes. He should be the poster child for politicans that CAN CHANGE, because to be honest I'd never thought I'd see him turn to being a LIBERTARIAN in a million years. Well its just as I thought I KNEW this would drive a stake in our unity and divide the numbers that MAY have given us a fighting chance!!!!. I guess I better get ready to HAIL Obama the marxist economic terrorist

 

[Menthol Patch]

That's exactly why Rob Kampia of Marijuana Policy Project gave a nominating speech for him and stood on the stage with him after the announcement for recognition. Two-thirds of the DC delegation work in drug policy--and Barr got the unanimous vote from our delegation every ballot (all three of them!).

So are you saying he now supports drug legalization?

If so, will he apologize for all the people he helped send to prison?

 

[MozoVote]

Probably 1,000 of Menthol's 4000+ posts were anti-Blimp propaganda. I think the anti-Barr wailing will accomplish as much.

Sheesh. Ron Paul ran on a modified LP platform and the purists were crying "foul" then too.

 

[DrSpock]

BUT this is NOT THE SAME MAN ANYMORE!!!!!

Do you have any proof of this or is it just a "feeling"?

 

[qh4dotcom]

I'm saddened and disturbed to hear that the LP has nominated Bob Barr the neo-con anti-freedom drug warrior as their presidential nominee. It's absolutely insane that the party of principle would nominate someone that is responsible for putting thousands or tens of thousands of innocent people in prison when they did not violate the rights of others. One fundamental principle of the Libertarian Party is that the drug war is insane and that everyone has a right to put what they want into their own bodies. To nominate someone that supported the Drug War and was one of it's biggest supporters is crazy!

THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY MIGHT AS WELL HAVE NOMINATED AN IRS AGENT!

Also, Bob Barr was so unprincipled that he voted for the Patriot Act. Bob Barr is an absolute NEO-CON and the fact that the LP nominated him should make true Libertarians vomit!

He also does not want to abolish the income tax and replace it with NOTHING! He actually supports the "Fair Tax" which would put a huge sales tax on all citizens!

It's sad that some libertarians are willing to give up their principles in order to try and get votes!

The Libertarian Party just died today.

The Democrats and Republicans have nominated the wrong candidate in the past and they're still very popular....My guess is that few people will remember this Libertarian Party mistake in 2012 and will focus more on who the candidate is in 2012, not who the candidate was in 2008.

Looks like you haven't heard about how the FairTax works....you won't be taxed unless you spend more than the poverty level...the government will reimburse you via monthly checks for any FairTax you pay up to the poverty level. I don't know about you but I like the idea of getting government checks in the mail.

 

[qh4dotcom]

"The Libertarian Party just died today."


- The Libertarian Party just GREW today.

I'm not huge Barr fan but his notoriety will get hundreds of thousands of people exposed to the Libertarian Party that would've NEVER looked at it before.

He's not a "pure" libertarian but pure libertarians are what has kept the party in the gutter since it's inception. You have to be realistic and look at this from the general dumbed down public's perspective. They will will not support a pure libertarian overnight. That's too big of a plunge for people. They have to be spoon fed a little at a time. This Libertarian ticket will get ALOT more exposure, thus empowering the party which over time will result in ALOT more people becoming "pure" libertarians.

You take what you can get right now. It's not like they have a chance to win anyway. Our number 1 goal at this juncture is exposure to the liberty message.

Couldn't agree with you more and I also don't like Bob Barr.