The GOP will change its tune on Donald Trump. Just wait.

[thoughtomator]

I seriously do not understand how you think that the guy who buys the politicians and makes them do his bidding is going to be any better than the bought politicians who do his bidding. If anything, by removing the middleman and making the corruption more efficient, it will become an order of magnitude worse.

My bet is not that he'll be better, but that the chance he'll be better is not zero as it is with all other options.

Again, naysaying with no alternative. What's the alternative? There's one second on the clock and we're 99 yards from the goal line. This is a Hail Mary play.

 

[georgiaboy]

let the goose stepping begin.

 

[Feelgood]

there should be no support for authoritarianism here.

Does that include coming from moderators?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

lol just go away if you support trump. this forum is not the place for it. (saying that as a poster, not as a mod)

there should be no support for authoritarianism here.

im a trump supporter but i dont like authoritarianism.... trumps not perfect by any means.. but ill take someone who meets me halfway and whos might help liberty in a left handed fashion... plus hes definitely destroying the old GOP guard that kept Ron Paul down.

 

[Aratus]

lol just go away if you support trump. this forum is not the place for it.

(saying that as a poster, not as a mod)

there should be no support for authoritarianism here.

Vox populi, vox Dei.

Together Grimace, we can own this town.

FIVE DAYz UNTIL SUPER~TUESDAY. KEEP AN EYE ON MITT ROMNEY.

 

[seapilot]

Together Grimace, we can own this town.

Trump is First a business man , second an entertainer and third a politician. He figured out there was more money in entertainment than real estate, hence Reality TV show, Miss USA etc. Now he probably is looking around and seeing all these know nothing politicians making millions on insider trading, Bill Clinton making hundreds of thousands talking for an hour and figured the big money is in politics. He invests 50 million and by being President it gives his brand a lot more selling power. From a business stand point the ROI is lucrative.

Even if he loses the election he already has won from a business perspective.

 

[Aratus]

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-mitt-romney-tweets-tax-returns-2016-2

"Mitt Romney, who was one of the dumbest and worst candidates in the history of Republican
politics, is now pushing me on tax returns," Trump wrote on Twitter. "Dope!" he added.

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

How is he any more Authoritarian than anyone else who is in the running?

When in God's Green Fuck did that become the parameter we set for elections?

 

[kahless]

Trump is the only candidate effectively or proposing to:

- deal with trade in-balances that have created high unemployment and driven out manufacturing and jobs. Check.
- deal with mass immigration and open borders that for American citizens has driven down wages and created high unemployment. Check.
- allow health care competition across state lines. - Proposed by Rand/Ron. Check.
- change US foreign policy and is calling out the Neocons on foreign intervention more effectively than Ron/Rand. Check.
- end the Democratic and news media tool of using political correctness to control the political process. Check.

Sure, there are issues where he is a problem but achieving the above is a hell of allot better than the alternative or the status quo. A Trump win leaves the party open for other groups to make in roads and end the stranglehold of the Neocons.

 

[nikcers]

Trump is the only candidate effectively or proposing to:

- deal with trade in-balances that have created high unemployment and driven out manufacturing and jobs. Check.
- deal with mass immigration and open borders that for American citizens has driven down wages and created high unemployment. Check.
- allow health care competition across state lines. - Proposed by Rand/Ron. Check.
- change US foreign policy and is calling out the Neocons on foreign intervention more effectively than Ron/Rand. Check.
- end the Democratic and news media tool of using political correctness to control the political process. Check.

Sure, there are issues where he is a problem but achieving the above is a hell of allot better than the alternative or the status quo. A Trump win leaves the party open for other groups to make in roads and end the stranglehold of the Neocons.

Really, so automation hasn't driven down manufacturing jobs, it was all trade in-balances? He is also for single payer. That last one is a pipe dream.

 

[kahless]

Really, so automation hasn't driven down manufacturing jobs, it was all trade in-balances? He is also for single payer. That last one is a pipe dream.

Not to the extent of the mass exodus of plants from the US. You can still automate and remain here, there are still jobs to be had in plants with automation.

He is not for "single payer". He has been preaching this "health care competition across state lines" and instead of Obamacare providing some sort of coverage for the homeless. This is what Obama and Romney could have done for the poor rather than screw with everyone's health care.

This is far better than the status quo even before Obamacare was passed it would have been far better just to open up competition and make a deal with the Democrats with Medicare or hospital contracts to cover the indigent.

 

[wmmonk]

lol just go away if you support trump. this forum is not the place for it. (saying that as a poster, not as a mod)

there should be no support for authoritarianism here.

Did you say the last line as a mod?
I support you turning in your resignation.

And I agree, most that say they won't vote for him, will vote for him if it's Trump vs. Clinton or Sanders.
They will do so, as they always have.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

My bet is not that he'll be better, but that the chance he'll be better is not zero as it is with all other options.

My parents said the same thing in Cuba in 1959 when they supported Fidel Castro over Batista. After 57 years of the regime, they have so many regrets. Because of this my mom would tell me that no matter how bad things are, they can certainly get worse.

 

[AuH20]

My parents said the same thing in Cuba in 1959 when they supported Fidel Castro over Batista. After 57 years of the regime, they have so many regrets. Because of this my mom would tell me that no matter how bad things are, they can certainly get worse.

Castro was pushed by the CIA and then went rogue.

 

[thoughtomator]

My parents said the same thing in Cuba in 1959 when they supported Fidel Castro over Batista. After 57 years of the regime, they have so many regrets. Because of this my mom would tell me that no matter how bad things are, they can certainly get worse.

It's perfectly possible - nay, even probable - that the roll of the dice won't have a favorable outcome.

Not rolling the dice has a 100% chance of an unfavorable outcome.

Make a list of what you think you have to lose and present it.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

It's perfectly possible - nay, even probable - that the roll of the dice won't have a favorable outcome.

Not rolling the dice has a 100% chance of an unfavorable outcome.

Make a list of what you think you have to lose and present it.

If you think Bush and Obama wiped their a*s with the Constitution and ignored Congress, wait and see what Trump will do if he ever lays foot in the White House. If Trump does, God help us all.

 

[AuH20]

If you think Bush and Obama wiped their a*s with the Constitution and ignored Congress, wait and see what Trump will do if he ever lays foot in the White House. If Trump does, God help us all.

Declassifying the 28 pages would be well worth it. Using the NSA to spy on the CFR would be great too. I'm with Cantwell, unleash the hounds of hell!

Christopher Cantwell laid out an incredible thesis citing that as soon as these monsters willfully destroyed the Constitution, that they are no longer entitled to hide behind it's remnants when it suits them. These sickos broke the checks and balances between the branches and now they are crying about a madman coming to power? Ya don't say, asshole!

 

[misterx]

Declassifying the 28 pages would be well worth it. Using the NSA to spy on the CFR would be great too. I'm with Cantwell, unleash the hounds of hell!

Wouldn't that be ironic if their own system was used to end their dominance for which it was created to maintain.

 

[thoughtomator]

If you think Bush and Obama wiped their a*s with the Constitution and ignored Congress, wait and see what Trump will do if he ever lays foot in the White House. If Trump does, God help us all.

There's not a single part of the Constitution that Trump could violate that Bush and Obama have not already violated. It is not physically possible to do so.

Try it. Name a part of the Constitution NOT violated by Bush or Obama or both.

 

[AuH20]

Wouldn't that be ironic if their own system was used to end their dominance for which it was created to maintain.

Did you really think that waving those pocket constitutions would make them stop from treating us as chattel? That sure helped Lavoy Finicum repel bullets............actually it didn't.