The Case for an Independent Ron Paul Run

[superschupp]

The Case for an Independent Ron Paul Run

Don’t shoot me for suggesting that Dr Paul should consider an independent run for the White House. I still believe that the Republican nomination is the best road to the presidency, and until the nominee is chosen, I will continue to fight for that outcome. But...

In the very unlikely event that Dr Paul is not the party’s choice, and in view of his stated opposition to the idea of a 3rd party run, I believe that we need a contingency plan.

I propose that right here in this thread we cuss and discuss this idea with the eventual goal (if necessary) of revising this document to include the best arguments for a 3rd party candidacy and once fleshed out, forwarding it to the campaign in the form of an open letter with a million signatures.

So here goes...

Date: (probably never)

Dear Dr. Paul,

We, your supporters, come together today to implore you to reconsider you decision to run for President of the United States as a 3rd party candidate. Your stated reason of the deck being stacked against 3rd parties is acknowledged as valid, however we would like to voice the following opinions and facts for your consideration.

1. If your candidacy stops, so does the conversation. All the other candidates, regardless of party, stand for one thing, a larger and more intrusive government. With your continued participation, your voice will continue to provide a counter point to the din. Already you have sufficient support in insure your inclusion in the presidential debates. With such a forum, our cause will receive the airing it deserves.

2. I know it is not technically polite to discuss one’s age but now is not the time for pleasantries, we are trying to save this country. At 72, how likely is it that you will make another run in 4 years.

3. You cannot be easily replaced. Even if we elected another freedom loving individual to national office today, it would 20 years before that person would achieve the political standing that you have.

4. The impact of the loss of your seat in the House, while a valid concern, pails in comparison to the mark you can make in the national debate as a presidential candidate.

5. We promise to give you a grass roots campaign like the world has never seen.

Sincerely,
The Ron Paul Revolution

Ok, get the discussion going! Am I nuts? (flame retardant at the ready)

 

[angelatc]

Not going to happen, because he will get the Republican nomination.

 

[angrydragon]

The odds aren't that good for a third-party presidential candidate.

 

[robertwerden]

The problem with this is by the time a third party run presents it self as the only option, the individual state deadlines will have come and gone. There is just not enough time to raise the signatures and money to meet the state requirements to be on the ballot. The only possibility is if the Libertarian nominee is willing to take Ron Paul as a Running mate.

 

[superschupp]

Agreed!

But since Dr Paul is the greatest American since Thomas Jefferson, I don't want to take any chances...

 

[me3]

This is a little premature. The first primary is over a month away.

 

[superschupp]

The problem with this is by the time a third party run presents it self as the only option, the individual state deadlines will have come and gone. There is just not enough time to raise the signatures and money to meet the state requirements to be on the ballot. The only possibility is if the Libertarian nominee is willing to take Ron Paul as a Running mate.

Perhaps we could persuade the Libertarians to move their convention until after the Republicans

 

[Paulitician]

Shove the independent/3rd party run until after the primaries. Sheesh.

 

[reaver]

Ron will get the nomination and run against a media powered independant.

 

[Midnight77]

Didn't Jesse Ventura win in Minnesota running as an Independent because voters were frustrated there?

This country is frustrated as a whole. They aren't happy with the Republicans. They aren't happy with the Democrats in Congress. I think Paul would actually stand a better chance than ever running Independent in the General Election.

With that being said, all focus needs to be on the Primaries at this point and securing the GOP Nomination.

 

[andreww]

An independant run would hurt his chances of winning his house seat again.

 

[xao]

An independant run would hurt his chances of winning his house seat again.

He won't need to be in the house. He'll be president.

 

[xao]

The problem with this is by the time a third party run presents it self as the only option, the individual state deadlines will have come and gone. There is just not enough time to raise the signatures and money to meet the state requirements to be on the ballot. The only possibility is if the Libertarian nominee is willing to take Ron Paul as a Running mate.

I've read that the libertarian part is going to welcome him with open arms if the 1 in a billion chance happens and he doesn't get the republican nominee.

 

[nigh_eve]

My suspicion is that if RP wins the republican nomination, Bloomberg will run as an independent.

 

[axiomata]

I know you mean no harm, but frankly, talk of a independent run at this stage is foolish. Ron Paul has said many times that he has no intention. When you bring it up you are no better than the MSM journalists who bring it up again and again.

 

[jmdrake]

Really, what's the point of this premature "Ron Paul should run third party" nonsense? Cross that bridge IF we get to it! Right now it's just distracting and counterproductive. Keep your eyes squarely on getting him nominated. Everything we do toward winning the nomination would also work for a third party bid. (Name recognition is name recognition. And I'm pretty sure he'd be able to carry over the donations. Plus the grassroots network isn't going anywhere). Other than that party hacks are looking to brand Ron Paul supporters as "disloyal" so they can further marginalize Dr. Paul.

Regards,

John M. Drak

 

[Richie]

Ron will get the nomination and run against a media powered independant.

QFT! Mark my words - it will be either Blomberg or Dobbs.

 

[livinitup]

Unless you are Ross Perot $$$$$$$, there is no chance for a 3rd party candidate to get into the presidential debates. Which are extremely important to the exposure of a candidate.

If you watch the Ralph Nater documentary An Unreasonable Man, you can see that they will not even let a 3rd party candidate in the same building as the presidential debates.

The time for Ron Paul is now! It is up to us to make it happen!

 

[american.swan]

I disagree with any third party run. We need to focus on control of the GOP nomination process so OUR freedom loving candidate wins the next GOP nomination, and the next, and the next.

We have two party system. We can run and hide in some obscure part of the Internet under the banner of some third party creation OR we can overrun the local and state GOP. I think the choice is obvious. Focus on delegates now and delegates for 2012.

 

[Swmorgan77]

The Case for an Independent Ron Paul Run

Don’t shoot me for suggesting that Dr Paul should consider an independent run for the White House. I still believe that the Republican nomination is the best road to the presidency, and until the nominee is chosen, I will continue to fight for that outcome. But...

In the very unlikely event that Dr Paul is not the party’s choice, and in view of his stated opposition to the idea of a 3rd party run, I believe that we need a contingency plan.

I propose that right here in this thread we cuss and discuss this idea with the eventual goal (if necessary) of revising this document to include the best arguments for a 3rd party candidacy and once fleshed out, forwarding it to the campaign in the form of an open letter with a million signatures.

So here goes...

Date: (probably never)

Dear Dr. Paul,

We, your supporters, come together today to implore you to reconsider you decision to run for President of the United States as a 3rd party candidate. Your stated reason of the deck being stacked against 3rd parties is acknowledged as valid, however we would like to voice the following opinions and facts for your consideration.

1. If your candidacy stops, so does the conversation. All the other candidates, regardless of party, stand for one thing, a larger and more intrusive government. With your continued participation, your voice will continue to provide a counter point to the din. Already you have sufficient support in insure your inclusion in the presidential debates. With such a forum, our cause will receive the airing it deserves.

2. I know it is not technically polite to discuss one’s age but now is not the time for pleasantries, we are trying to save this country. At 72, how likely is it that you will make another run in 4 years.

3. You cannot be easily replaced. Even if we elected another freedom loving individual to national office today, it would 20 years before that person would achieve the political standing that you have.

4. The impact of the loss of your seat in the House, while a valid concern, pails in comparison to the mark you can make in the national debate as a presidential candidate.

5. We promise to give you a grass roots campaign like the world has never seen.

Sincerely,
The Ron Paul Revolution

Ok, get the discussion going! Am I nuts? (flame retardant at the ready)

But we need him in Congress too. He's pretty much all we've got there.