Teenager killed by neighborhood watch captain

[BlackTerrel]

Personally i dont like the whole "sign a petition" and get the case heard system. There should be no place in the justice system for popular vote

It's a start. This Zimmerman killed an unarmed kid and is still free.

Outside of vigiliante justice (which could end with more innocents dead) what else should people do?

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Unfortunately, instead of focusing on the alleged murderer, it is causing people to question the "stand your ground" laws.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/20/us/florida-teen-shooting-law/

Cops routinely kill unarmed people. This, being private security of sorts, is a pretty rare event. And I've heard that he followed the kid before killing him, so it's hardly a "stand your ground" issue anyway.

 

[Stupified]

Personally i dont like the whole "sign a petition" and get the case heard system. There should be no place in the justice system for popular vote.

You mean, like a jury? And how else are we supposed to let justice system know - peacefully - that we're not going to take this bullshit much longer?

 

[Vanilluxe]

The murder shouted a profanity and possibly a racial slur over the phone line before shooting the teen. The police are still doing nothing about it, even though they heard evidence over phone records. If the murder was convicted, this might be considered a hate crime.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2703918/lawyer-girl-on-phone-with-trayvon.html

 

[puppetmaster]

The murder shouted a profanity and possibly a racial slur over the phone line before shooting the teen. The police are still doing nothing about it, even though they heard evidence over phone records. If the murder was convicted, this might be considered a hate crime.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2703918/lawyer-girl-on-phone-with-trayvon.html

hate crimes are BS....murder is murder

 

[BlackTerrel]

George Zimmerman, 28, an aspiring police officer who once attended a citizen police academy

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2703918/lawyer-girl-on-phone-with-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy

How big of an idiot is this guy if he's 28 year old and can't even become a cop? This is like saying "an aspiring subway sandwich artist".

 

[BlackTerrel]

Million hoodie march in NYC

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/trayvon-martin-million-hoodie-march_n_1371403.html

NEW YORK — The parents of a black teenager shot to death by a Hispanic neighborhood watch captain in Florida marched in his memory on Wednesday with hundreds of other people demanding arrests in the case.

"We're not going to stop until we get justice," said the teenager's father, Tracy Martin, after thanking the crowd. "My son did not deserve to die."

Martin's son, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, was killed Feb. 26, in Sanford, Fla. He was returning to a gated community in the city after buying candy at a convenience store. He was unarmed and was wearing a hooded sweat shirt, called a hoodie.

The neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, has not been charged in the shooting. Zimmerman has said the teen attacked him and he shot him in self-defense.

On Wednesday night, demonstrators chanted "we want arrests" during the Million Hoodie March in Manhattan's Union Square.

The teen's mother, Sybrina Fulton, told the crowd: "My heart is in pain, but to see the support of all of you really makes a difference."

The demonstrators responded: "God bless you!"

The case has ignited a furor against the police department of the Orlando suburb of 53,500 people, prompting rallies and a protest in Gov. Rick Scott's office on Tuesday. The Justice Department's Civil Rights Division said it is sending its community relations service this week to Sanford to "address tension in the community."

Earlier in the week, the federal agency opened a civil rights probe into the shooting, and in Florida, Seminole County State Attorney Norm Wolfinger said a grand jury will meet April 10 to consider evidence in the case.

Yeah right. An unarmed 17 year old attacks a guy with a gun?? Are we on Mars? Someone with common sense step into this case please.

 

[awake]

What is not being mentioned is that Zimmerman is Hispanic... the silence on this is key to the political interests who are riding the crises to gain more power.

 

[jmdrake]

Read a couple other stories. The "watch Captain" needs to be arrested for murder.
He stalked assaulted and shot the kid. The kid was unarmed.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to pcosmar again.

I need to bookmark this thread for the next time there is senseless police violence and someone falsely accuses those who speak out of "cop hating". It isn't hating on "cops". It's hating on "goons with guns" who try to mask their violence behind a thin veneer of "fighting crime". For self defense to be legitimate there must actually be a deadly threat.

 

[jmdrake]

What is not being mentioned is that Zimmerman is Hispanic... the silence on this is key to the political interests who are riding the crises to gain more power.

Zimmerman sounds like a German name, but I'll take your word for it. Still there is racial tension between blacks and hispanics in some parts of the country.

 

[BlackTerrel]

What is not being mentioned is that Zimmerman is Hispanic... the silence on this is key to the political interests who are riding the crises to gain more power.

Take a look one post above you at the article I quoted. It's the first sentence in the article.

This is not about political interests - it's about a thug getting away with killing an unarmed teen.

 

[MelissaWV]

The race/ethnicity of the person doing the shooting does not negate the probability that this was at least in part about the impression that a dark-skinned teen walking around a gated community at night was up to no good. It seems that, from his communications with that girl before he died, he knew he was being followed... which would account for his walking faster, pulling up his hood, etc..

 

[BlackTerrel]

Zimmerman sounds like a German name, but I'll take your word for it. Still there is racial tension between blacks and hispanics in some parts of the country.

He looks Hispanic but this isn't about tension between Hispanics and blacks. It's about one failure of a human being who happens to be Hispanic. News reports say that Zimmerman who is 28 years old was "an aspiring cop"? Do you know how much of an idiot you have to be to be 28 years old and be an "aspiring cop"? It's not brain surgery. Anyone with an IQ above 70 can become a cop. Guy was a loser, wanna be tough guy and a racist - all three are usually correlated.

He can be head mumbling "fucking coons" at the end of the 911 recording.

 

[jmdrake]

Personally i dont like the whole "sign a petition" and get the case heard system. There should be no place in the justice system for popular vote.

Well actually the popular vote is the only recourse the public has against a prosecutor's decision not to prosecute. So a petition is quite appropriate.

 

[jmdrake]

He looks Hispanic but this isn't about tension between Hispanics and blacks. It's about one failure of a human being who happens to be Hispanic. News reports say that Zimmerman who is 28 years old was "an aspiring cop"? Do you know how much of an idiot you have to be to be 28 years old and be an "aspiring cop"? It's not brain surgery. Anyone with an IQ above 70 can become a cop. Guy was a loser, wanna be tough guy and a racist - all three are usually correlated.

He can be head mumbling "fucking coons" at the end of the 911 recording.

I don't disagree with your assessment that he's an idiot. But I'd say the same thing if he was a white racist. Your last point kind of underscores the point I was making (or attempting to make) which is that just because Zimmerman is hispanic doesn't mean he isn't racist against blacks. When I was in HS the hispanics got along with the racist whites just fine. And I'm not trying to imply there's some great racial rift between blacks and hispanics. Just that a hispanic that doesn't like blacks (or a black that doesn't like hispanics) isn't unheard of.

 

[jmdrake]

Just to be fair, here, the fact that Zimmerman was charged with a crime against a cop (for which there appears to be no accompanying primary charge) does NOT constitute evidence of anything -- especially since the charges were apparently dropped, which indicates that everyone from cop to judge recognized the charges as erroneous.

That's not to say that the shooting was valid. I only mean to indicate that using a usually trumped up default charge, particularly when it was dropped, to impeach someone's character is probably the wrong way to go.

The charges were NOT dropped! They were expunged!

From the article:

Yet public records showed that Zimmerman was charged with battery against on officer and resisting arrest in 2005, a charge that was later expunged.

What's the difference you ask? Well most things don't go to trial these days. Sometimes prosecutors will offer defendants something called "expungeble probation" in order to get them to plead guilty or no contest. If you keep your nose clear for the required period of time (usually a year) the charge is wiped off your record. But it is not the same as the charges being dropped.

 

[Stupified]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/21/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Read the comments section.



This country is not worth saving. Time to go Galt.

 

[awake]

Take a look one post above you at the article I quoted. It's the first sentence in the article.

This is not about political interests - it's about a thug getting away with killing an unarmed teen.

I agree 100%. It is a monumental injustice. Unfortunatly the politics can not be seperated from this story, this injustice stems from it.

 

[phill4paul]

Well I'm glad my brothers and cousin are in LE.

Btw, this guy needs to be arrested. This stinks to high heaven...

Brothers and cousins? You're in good standing then. A right good ward of the trustees.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I don't disagree with your assessment that he's an idiot. But I'd say the same thing if he was a white racist. Your last point kind of underscores the point I was making (or attempting to make) which is that just because Zimmerman is hispanic doesn't mean he isn't racist against blacks. When I was in HS the hispanics got along with the racist whites just fine. And I'm not trying to imply there's some great racial rift between blacks and hispanics. Just that a hispanic that doesn't like blacks (or a black that doesn't like hispanics) isn't unheard of.

I agree 100%. There are people of all races that are racist. Zimmerman happens to be Hispanic and racist by the evidence I've seen so far. And much worse - a murderer of an unarmed man.