Teenager killed by neighborhood watch captain

[BlackTerrel]

You're right. I'm wrong. I'm sure you would be devoting the exact same amount of attention and passion to this case if the races were reversed, and your position wouldn't shift even the slightest, because YOU are not a racist, not even a little bit. See, the problem here that other people have with this case -- not YOU, of course -- is that this case has become too racially charged for other people -- not YOU -- to maintain their objectivity. So, you continue to be right, and I'll just be wrong, because I suggested that the president should be just as concerned about the 17 year old American kids whose lives are directly in his hands. But, what the hell do I know? Nothing, apparently. You're right.

Here's the reality:

1. I don't think this guy would have gotten away without ever being charged if the races were reversed

2. If it did happen. I for damn sure wouldn't interrupt the discussion by constantly bringing up a war in Afghanistan to diminish the death of a white kid, or Hispanic kid or whatever.

I can compartmentalize issues. There is Travyon Martin a 17 year old unarmed kid who was shot dead in cold blood, and there is a war in Afghanistan. Two completely unrelated issues.

 

[MelissaWV]

Seems so. I heard that yesterday,, my wife was reading something from the next room. She went OFF.

I wear hoodies occasionally. my 66 yr old White Wife wears Hoodies.

To some they are style,, to others they are practical convenience.

This is the level of stupidity we have to deal with.

It was raining and he was grabbing a couple of things from the store. That's pretty much a great time to wear a hoodie; the candy and tea fit in your pockets, the hood keeps you mostly dry in the event of the rain picking up suddenly.

"Disguise" my butt.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Oh great... that's all we need... a freaking race war.

Talk of a "race war" just like the many threads I read here about "WW3 is just around the corner" are greatly exaggerated.

What does that even mean? We all start shooting each other? 100% no chance.

Americans are a pretty united bunch and for the most part we all get along. In this case most everyone I know is outraged by this - black, white, Asian, Hispanic... my Indian girlfriend thinks this is as fucked up as I do.

For the record the Black Panthers are idiots. Maybe 50 years ago they were worth something positive I don't know. Today I'd put them in the same category as the KKK. Wannabe idiots who wish they still had the same clout they did decades ago. They're worthless and they'll talk a big game but they won't do shit.

 

[MelissaWV]

Talk of a "race war" just like the many threads I read here about "WW3 is just around the corner" are greatly exaggerated.

What does that even mean? We all start shooting each other? 100% no chance.

Americans are a pretty united bunch and for the most part we all get along. In this case most everyone I know is outraged by this - black, white, Asian, Hispanic... my Indian girlfriend thinks this is as fucked up as I do.

For the record the Black Panthers are idiots. Maybe 50 years ago they were worth something positive I don't know. Today I'd put them in the same category as the KKK. Wannabe idiots who wish they still had the same clout they did decades ago. They're worthless and they'll talk a big game but they won't do shit.

What's meant by "race war" is the overheated tensions that will be played upon in the media now for months and months about this. It usually ends in a "race riot" which does not go well for anyone involved.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Here's the reality:

1. I don't think this guy would have gotten away without ever being charged if the races were reversed

2. If it did happen. I for damn sure wouldn't interrupt the discussion by constantly bringing up a war in Afghanistan to diminish the death of a white kid, or Hispanic kid or whatever.

FWIW, Zimmerman looks Hispanic to me.

 

[puppetmaster]

Talk of a "race war" just like the many threads I read here about "WW3 is just around the corner" are greatly exaggerated.

What does that even mean? We all start shooting each other? 100% no chance.

Americans are a pretty united bunch and for the most part we all get along. In this case most everyone I know is outraged by this - black, white, Asian, Hispanic... my Indian girlfriend thinks this is as fucked up as I do.

For the record the Black Panthers are idiots. Maybe 50 years ago they were worth something positive I don't know. Today I'd put them in the same category as the KKK. Wannabe idiots who wish they still had the same clout they did decades ago. They're worthless and they'll talk a big game but they won't do shit.

They incite racism and are dangerous to the human race.

 

[puppetmaster]

FWIW, Zimmerman looks Hispanic to me.

I believe he is.

 

[Anti Federalist]

For the record the Black Panthers are idiots. Maybe 50 years ago they were worth something positive I don't know. Today I'd put them in the same category as the KKK. Wannabe idiots who wish they still had the same clout they did decades ago. They're worthless and they'll talk a big game but they won't do shit.

Yet another example of how upside down things get when it comes to race.

How fast would KKK members no, strike that, KKK is mostly feds these days, how fast would a bunch of OathKeepers have been arrested if they said the same thing?

 

[JWZguy]

I believe he is.

Several articles have stated that he is. For what that's worth.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I believe he is.

So is Hispanic "white"?

This is all very confusing...

 

[BlackTerrel]

FWIW, Zimmerman looks Hispanic to me.

It appears so. His race is not the issue. His actions are.

What's meant by "race war" is the overheated tensions that will be played upon in the media now for months and months about this. It usually ends in a "race riot" which does not go well for anyone involved.

"Race war" sounds a lot more menacing than local race riot so at least call it like it is. "Race war" sounds like we're all going to start shooting each other in the streets and is unnecessarily inflammatory.

That said I think a riot is (a big one - meaning more than just a few idiots) is unlikely. No one I know is mad at white people, or Hispanics, or whoever. People I know are pissed off at Zimmerman and the authorities that let him get away. I haven't heard a single person say "let's take it out on Race X".

 

[Ender]

Neighbors account of what happened the night of the shooting
Mary Cutcher and her roommate Selma Mora Lamilla, were at the scene of the gated community, The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford the night Martin was killed.

Cutcher and Lamilla told Anderson Cooper Tuesday that they heard whimpers and cries for help, looked out their window, and saw Zimmerman straddling Martin while Martin was dead on the ground. Zimmerman allegedly got up, scratched his head, and paced around Martin's body.

When they called out to Zimmerman he did not respond until the third time, at which time he told them to call police. The women said they felt police were siding with Zimmerman the night of the incident, despite what they told police.

Here is the interview:
http://www.examiner.com/unsolved-ca...views-friend-of-trayvon-martin-s-killer-video

After listening to Zimmerman talk on the 911 tapes, it seems evident that he was running. And, after listening to the cries for help, it is my POV that the cries do not match Zimmerman's voice.

Also- the pictures that are on this post of Martin are a 140 kid having fun with the camera. All kids do this. And, Martin was barely 17, having had a birthday a week or so before he died.

Another fact is that Martin was walking BACK to his father's girlfriend's condo, Where, oh where, was Zimmerman when Martin had made his way to the store just a bit earlier?

It's too bad that the police did not do a better job, as now this thing has completely escalated into a national fiasco.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It appears so. His race is not the issue. His actions are.

But you yourself said that race had great deal to with it.

Here's the reality:

1. I don't think this guy would have gotten away without ever being charged if the races were reversed

"George Zimmermann" sounds as white and nerdy as you can get.

But the fact is, he is Hispanic.

That changes things, right or wrong.

Big difference in the public eye when they picture this:

And not this:

 

[pcosmar]

So is Hispanic "white"?

This is all very confusing...

Sometimes,, except when Hispanic is black.

To me it is all irrelevant.
Zimmerman stalked him (for no good reason) got out of his vehicle (for no good reason) and confronted him (for no good reason).

then shot him. (for no good reason)

Then was released by the police. (for no good reason)

 

[RideTheDirt]

Witness Says He Saw Trayvon Attack Zimmerman (Video)“The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: ‘help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911,” he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as “John,” and didn’t not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman’s claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

http://www.eurweb.com/2012/03/trayvon-martin-attacked-george-zimmerman-says-witnes/

 

[Machiavelli]

Hispanic is not a race...Hispanic means having origin from a Spanish speaking country. You can be black Hispanic, white, Asian, green, Jew whatever. When ignorant Americans think of "Hispanics" they are probably assuming or picturing that they are part or mostly native Amerindians. That is the so called Hispanic "look". The problem is if you look at the demographics of countries like Uruguay or Argentina they are more then 90% white. Not every Hispanic is mestizo.

Also words like Latin(o) and Hispanic being used interchangeably is ignorant as well. You can be from a Latin American country and not be Hispanic, in the case of Brazil. The Latin countries in Europe can be considered Latino as well. There are countries in South America that are not Latin like Suriname or Guyana.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Zimmerman stalked him (for no good reason) got out of his vehicle (for no good reason) and confronted him (for no good reason).

then shot him. (for no good reason)

Then was released by the police. (for no good reason)

I have seen nothing yet to dissuade me from thinking the same thing.

 

[AFPVet]

What's meant by "race war" is the overheated tensions that will be played upon in the media now for months and months about this. It usually ends in a "race riot" which does not go well for anyone involved.

Yup... and it detracts the mission of restoring the Republic. Race wars, entertainment and political fiascos, among other distractions, all too often, catch the attention of people.

 

[Voluntary Man]

I don't think this guy would have gotten away without ever being charged if the races were reversed

FWIW, Zimmerman looks Hispanic to me.

It appears so. His race is not the issue. His actions are.

So, you'd be just as interested in and passionate about this case, if both men were black...or if both were Hispanic?


Come on! You're not even a little bit embarrassed by you blatant intellectual dishonesty? Not even a little?

 

[A Son of Liberty]

What exactly drove you into a rage? A thread about an unarmed kid who got mowed down in Florida - and you were driven into a rage because of the war in Afghanistan? The two are not related AT ALL.

There are 100 threads about the war in Afghanistan and you are free to comment in them. This is about a kid who got mowed down here in the USA. Travyon Martin has nothing do with war or Afghanistan or Iraq or WMD's.

You're dense.

Obama commented on this issue. Obama is as guilty as this neighborhood watchman appears to be. Thus, my comments.