TeaParty11.com - Dec 16th Money Bomb - Ron Paul Tea Party

[harikaried]

This software looks pretty amazing. It almost seems like you could extract all the e-mails from the Ron Paul fan page with this.

That video is from over a year ago and I doubt the software works that great on the new Facebook structure. I don't think you can even view all the followers of a page. You could try scraping from those that posted recently, but those people probably know about money bombs, etc.

 

[TexMac]

It's my understanding that you lose the ability to message after 5000 attending, not counting maybes and waiting.

I'm wrong about this - here's what facebook says:

How do I send a message to my event guest list?

To message the event guest list, go to the event’s main page and click "Message All Guests" beneath the event photo. You will be able to send a message to all guests, or to different groups of guests based on RSVP status.


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Please note that you can only message all guests if the total number of guests who are attending, maybe attending, or who have not yet replied does not exceed 5,000. Also, if an event is hosted by a Page, the Page admin will not see the option to send a message to event guests.

 

[qwerty]

I would argue that the centralized method's benefits outweigh the detriments. The psychological effect of the large increasing number alone is worth not being able to message them. Knowing you are apart of a larger group is always motivating.

So I vote centralization and then work on a way to message them even if it means setting up a database of attendants as they join and messaging them manually.

Totally agree!

Let´s just try to get people to pledge on the site too that we can sent them update e-mails.

I would like to see the website ready so that we could start... we are wasting time here...

AND i really hope that the BTO e-mail list WILL BE USED FROM DAY ONE!

 

[qwerty]

BTO didn't break records but it was our most successful money bomb of this cycle. With time before the Iowa caucuses running out why don't we just follow the same formula that made BTO a success.

We need 1 facebook event, and to agree on a goal of facebook attendees. Having the goal of 25,000 attendees set early last time is what really got the ball rolling. People were more motivated to promote because they had a goal to achieve and a way to measure their efforts daily.

The pledge site and the competition on the site were great motivators as well, the competition started late imagine if it would have started earlier.

Trying to reach the goal of 25,000 attendees motivated me to spend hours everyday promoting on facebook, I know it motivated others to do the same.

Without everyone working towards achieving clear attainable daily goals people won't be motivated to help promote.

This is one of the best posts on this thread!

 

[qwerty]

Decentralized sounds good. The first event that is there will be closed as soon as it is close to 5,000.

Facebook page is up:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/TeaParty11com-Dec-16th-Money-Bomb-Ron-Paul-Tea-Party/146300715469380

For the most up to date info, see the first post.

NO NO NO! THAT`S A HORRIBLE IDEA!!!!

We just must try to encourage people to pledge on the site too everyway we can, like " pledge on the site also to get update e-mails" etc...

 

[GHoeberX]

Whenever this event ends up taking place, I have a stack of cash with Dr. Pauls name on it.

If we do a moneybomb every week it's not going to work either; as mentioned already a lot of times 'moneybomb-fatigue' will arrive and no-one is going to pay attention. We've just had one (not-extremely succesfull) moneybomb yesterday, and you can't have another succesful moneybomb in 2 weeks without preparation.

I have my video ready to promote the Tea Party-moneybomb, but I'm waiting until the website teaparty11.com-website is up!

 

[speciallyblend]

If we do a moneybomb every week it's not going to work either; as mentioned already a lot of times 'moneybomb-fatigue' will arrive and no-one is going to pay attention. We've just had one (not-extremely succesfull) moneybomb yesterday, and you can't have another succesful moneybomb in 2 weeks without preparation.

I have my video ready to promote the Tea Party-moneybomb, but I'm waiting until the website teaparty11.com-website is up!

opened this thread cause i saw your id patiently waiting on your new video hurry up just post it on rpf, we will keep it a secret note sarcasm.

 

[nathanielyao]

What do you guys think about this?

This is what the description of the FB event would say:

Welcome FB Patriot,

You have been invited to attend the December 16th Money Bomb for Ron Paul. Here's what to do next:

-Visit TeaParty11.com and join the pledge to Restore America Now and to receive updates about this event. There you will see the total number of attendees.
-Invite your FB friends to this event
-Once you have pledged at TeaParty11.com, please come back and click "Not Attending." We will then remove you from this Facebook event.

We are trying to keep the Facebook event to under 5,000 total in order to direct everyone to the main event at TeaParty11.com. A message will be sent out daily to everyone still on this Facebook event to remind them to pledge at TeaParty11.com. If you want to see the total number of attendees, join us at TeaParty11.com!

BTO didn't break records but it was our most successful money bomb of this cycle. With time before the Iowa caucuses running out why don't we just follow the same formula that made BTO a success.

We need 1 facebook event, and to agree on a goal of facebook attendees. Having the goal of 25,000 attendees set early last time is what really got the ball rolling. People were more motivated to promote because they had a goal to achieve and a way to measure their efforts daily.

The pledge site and the competition on the site were great motivators as well, the competition started late imagine if it would have started earlier.

Trying to reach the goal of 25,000 attendees motivated me to spend hours everyday promoting on facebook, I know it motivated others to do the same.

Without everyone working towards achieving clear attainable daily goals people won't be motivated to help promote.

Have you checked to see if you can do that? I just looked at an event I have and it can't be changed from public to private, but I don't know what makes it unchangeable. It may be that after some people attend and invite other guests, it can't be changed? Don't know. And if you change it to private, what happens to all the "waiting for reply" people? Are they no longer allowed to attend? It's my understanding that you lose the ability to message after 5000 attending, not counting maybes and waiting.

Totally agree!

Let´s just try to get people to pledge on the site too that we can sent them update e-mails.

I would like to see the website ready so that we could start... we are wasting time here...

AND i really hope that the BTO e-mail list WILL BE USED FROM DAY ONE!

 

[pkoury]

Four years ago Facebook was not nearly what it is today. Decentralizing is quite possibly the best way to shoot yourself in the foot. I highly suggest working out another way. As the campaign moves forward Ron's support goes up. You should be able to do much more with the same approach to BTO. If you are building on the success of the 2007 bomb (which you should in videos - the main motivator for these bombs) you will have a much more viral campaign than 2007.

Do not decentralize. It's too difficult for viral comprehension and it breaks the momentum.

Need to find another way.

 

[Sentinelrv]

Four years ago Facebook was not nearly what it is today. Decentralizing is quite possibly the best way to shoot yourself in the foot. I highly suggest working out another way. As the campaign moves forward Ron's support goes up. You should be able to do much more with the same approach to BTO. If you are building on the success of the 2007 bomb (which you should in videos - the main motivator for these bombs) you will have a much more viral campaign than 2007.

Do not decentralize. It's too difficult for viral comprehension and it breaks the momentum.

Need to find another way.

I'm starting to agree with this more and more. Unfortunately, I think it was wishful thinking that decentralization would work in our favor. It's just way too difficult to manage. There are too many issues to deal with. People just won't participate if it isn't made as simple as possible. Requiring people to read my entire strategy thread before even understanding this method is not going to work. People don't have the time to do all that. As you said, decentralization inhibits the capacity for it to go viral and destroys momentum. I'm starting to regret even pushing this strategy.

What do you guys think about this?

Like I said above, I think that's just going to be too difficult to manage. I bet upwards of 90% of people visiting the Facebook event won't even read the event description and an even higher amount won't even follow through. It needs to be extremely simple for massive amounts of people to participate. 1, 2, 3 done.

I may have found a solution.

I think this may be our best bet if the program still works. Let's not assume it doesn't work just because the video is older. Why would they still be selling the program? Even if it didn't work though, I think we still need to try doing something similar to capture emails from these websites. We did this in 2007 and I think it's a big reason why we got so many people to pledge. Our promotion manpower may have a much smaller impact in this money bomb formula than we realize. We've been focusing on manpower this entire year. Maybe we should try out something like this instead. Is there an update on this Dusman? Do you need any funding to obtain the program? We need to figure this out as fast as possible.

 

[Sentinelrv]

I just checked and the program was last updated on 10/26/2011...

Here's the highlights of this update:
- Export to OpenOffice
- Improved Facebook email extraction
- Email search can be paused now
- Better statistics reports
- Updated list of supported search engines

Dusman, if you need us to help you get this software just say the word.

 

[nathanielyao]

I was thinking that this would be simple. We would be sending the description out as a message daily to get people to follow through and pledge on the site and then removing them as they pledge.

Like I said above, I think that's just going to be too difficult to manage. I bet upwards of 90% of people visiting the Facebook event won't even read the event description and an even higher amount won't even follow through. It needs to be extremely simple for massive amounts of people to participate. 1, 2, 3 done.

 

[lucent]

I was thinking that this would be simple. We would be sending the description out as a message daily to get people to follow through and pledge on the site and then removing them as they pledge.

As I said before, the benefits of a single centralized Facebook event far out weigh the detriments. The psychological benefit of having a large increasing number alone is worth sacrificing the ability to contact them via Facebook. When there is a large number of people involved in something, it encourages even more people to become involved. The more the people, the more it will grow. It is better to come into this with the understanding we cannot contact them via Facebook and then figure out a way to contact as many people as possible.

 

[Appalachia]

I approve of this 16th december moneybomb. The campaign maybe needs cash more early but you will get a shitty moneybomb if you don't prepare a moneybomb well enough.

 

[speciallyblend]

What do you guys think about this?

This is what the description of the FB event would say:

Welcome FB Patriot,

You have been invited to attend the December 16th Money Bomb for Ron Paul. Here's what to do next:

-Visit TeaParty11.com and join the pledge to Restore America Now and to receive updates about this event. There you will see the total number of attendees.
-Invite your FB friends to this event
-Once you have pledged at TeaParty11.com, please come back and click "Not Attending." We will then remove you from this Facebook event.

We are trying to keep the Facebook event to under 5,000 total in order to direct everyone to the main event at TeaParty11.com. A message will be sent out daily to everyone still on this Facebook event to remind them to pledge at TeaParty11.com. If you want to see the total number of attendees, join us at TeaParty11.com!

i agree bottom line we need organization period. Yes folks can do their own thing but we need to focus like bto and previous moneybombs. Decentralization is not working. I like the idea of a website and also having fb and twitter and other social pages but focus on the website and directing folks there. The main op(thread and website) for this moneybomb should include avatars,flyers and any various info so they do not get lost in threads.

 

[nathanielyao]

As I said before, the benefits of a single centralized Facebook event far out weigh the detriments. The psychological benefit of having a large increasing number alone is worth sacrificing the ability to contact them via Facebook. When there is a large number of people involved in something, it encourages even more people to become involved. The more the people, the more it will grow. It is better to come into this with the understanding we cannot contact them via Facebook and then figure out a way to contact as many people as possible.

What I proposed for the FB event page should address most of the concerns, again is the planned description:

Welcome FB Patriot,

You have been invited to attend the December 16th Money Bomb for Ron Paul. Here's what to do next:

-Visit TeaParty11.com and join the pledge to Restore America Now and to receive updates about this event. There you will see the total number of attendees.
-Invite your FB friends to this event
-Once you have pledged at TeaParty11.com, please come back and click "Not Attending." We will then remove you from this Facebook event.

We are trying to keep the Facebook event to under 5,000 total in order to direct everyone to the main event at TeaParty11.com. A message will be sent out occasionally to everyone still on this Facebook event to remind them to pledge at TeaParty11.com. If you want to see the total number of attendees, join us at TeaParty11.com!

1. Large increasing number: The above description will be messaged daily to the people who are remaining on the FB event site to go over to the main website to see the actual number of attendees which would increase daily, way above the FB event since there will be promotions other than FB.

2. Messaging and invitation capability: by keeping the number low at the FB event and directing everyone over to the TeaParty11.com site, people can continue to easily promote the event on FB and have a way to direct everyone to the main site instead of messaging people one by one.

3. Centralized FB event: one event to keep things simple.

I think if the above happened for BTO, the BTO list would have been close to 30k.
This directs everyone to the TeaParty11.com website and it allows FB patriots to have easy way to invite people on FB. FB is a great tool, but it should not be the only one.

 

[speciallyblend]

What I proposed for the FB event page should address most of the concerns, again is the planned description:



1. Large increasing number: The above description will be messaged daily to the people who are remaining on the FB event site to go over to the main website to see the actual number of attendees which would increase daily, way above the FB event since there will be promotions other than FB.

2. Messaging and invitation capability: by keeping the number low at the FB event and directing everyone over to the TeaParty11.com site, people can continue to easily promote the event on FB and have a way to direct everyone to the main site instead of messaging people one by one.

3. Centralized FB event: one event to keep things simple.

I think if the above happened for BTO, the BTO list would have been close to 30k.
This directs everyone to the TeaParty11.com website and it allows FB patriots to have easy way to invite people on FB. FB is a great tool, but it should not be the only one.

i totally agree, there is no reason each social site cannot have a page directing folks to the main website. These social sites can be directed thru email to main site etc and getting folks involved . I see this as centralized! What your suggesting is critical to keeping it centralized! edit they should all be directing folks to the website to sign up for sure and if folks decide to follow like or sign up and friend on a social network then fine.

 

[speciallyblend]

just a post note to get folks back down to earth!! If you guys think the moneybomb was failure. Feel free to call the campaign and have the 1/2 mil directed to my paycard ,sincerely thank you kenny!!!!

 

[speciallyblend]

As I said before, the benefits of a single centralized Facebook event far out weigh the detriments. The psychological benefit of having a large increasing number alone is worth sacrificing the ability to contact them via Facebook. When there is a large number of people involved in something, it encourages even more people to become involved. The more the people, the more it will grow. It is better to come into this with the understanding we cannot contact them via Facebook and then figure out a way to contact as many people as possible.

the goal should be to sign up on the main website. obviously people will friend ,like or whatever on the social networks but we do need pages on all the social networks promoting the moneybomb and website. This we can agree on!

 

[pkoury]

FB Page should have large text to direct the eye of a first time visitor. Maybe something like this:

STEPS TO MAKE THIS MONEY BOMB A SUCCESS:
1. Visit TeaParty11.com and join the pledge to Restore America Now and to receive updates about this event. There you will see the total number of attendees.
2. Invite your FB friends to this event.

The goal is to go beyond 2007... blah blah blah

May I also suggest a larger photo on for the event? Something that says Pledge At TeaParty11.com

Just a few observations, I have been doing social media marketing for a while now. People look at pictures, and big text, and links over pretty much everything.