TeaParty11.com - Dec 16th Money Bomb - Ron Paul Tea Party

[TexMac]

TechnoRob? Has he used this?

Not that I know of, but he wrote the script we used on fb last campaign. I think I messaged you about that before BTO.

 

[lucent]

I may have found a solution.

This software looks pretty amazing. It almost seems like you could extract all the e-mails from the Ron Paul fan page with this.

Here is the web page: http://www.massmailsoftware.com/extractweb/index.htm

However, it does cost $79.85.

Now, with that said.. using this tool will piss a lot of people off, as these wouldn't be opt-ins. However, if we used it tactfully we could remain very transparent on what we are doing and encourage anyone who does not want to be added to the list to immediately unsubscribe. This is about the only tool I've seen do what it does. It's quite impressive. There are examples on YouTube of it extracting millions of e-mails from various web pages and such.

I honestly don't think any Ron Paul supporters are going to be mad about receiving an email about Ron Paul. If this works, well worth it. Just setup a chipin for it if you'd like.

It seems to also get MySpace emails? This would be nice. There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters with MySpace accounts.

 

[nathanielyao]

Have not heard from Rob since last month, can't get in touch with him for some reason.

 

[dusman]

I honestly don't think any Ron Paul supporters are going to be mad about receiving an email about Ron Paul. If this works, well worth it. Just setup a chipin for it if you'd like.

I kind of have the same sentiment. As long as it's a very cordial message that stresses the importance of the effort and then offering a very easy way for them to unsubscribe, I don't think there would be too huge of a fallout from it.

 

[dusman]

Not that I know of, but he wrote the script we used on fb last campaign. I think I messaged you about that before BTO.

Ah, I remember what you are talking about now. This seems somewhat similar to what he had now that you mention it. However, this tool looks like it could be used to extract millions of e-mails from across the internet.

 

[lucent]

I kind of have the same sentiment. As long as it's a very cordial message that stresses the importance of the effort and then offering a very easy way for them to unsubscribe, I don't think there would be too huge of a fallout from it.

Is it possible to verify an email via a click through? So you setup a webpage dedicated to the Facebook event. So if someone clicks through on the email and then attends the Facebook event, it notifies you that this email is participating?

 

[lucent]

Here is what I am picturing. Send out an email that has two options:

1. Pledge to donate which then adds to the pledge counter.
2. Let them go to the website and join Facebook event, which then notifies you that this email is attending and also adds them to the pledge counter.

Of course, there would need to be a filter to make sure the same email isn't on the counter twice for doing both things.

 

[dusman]

Here is what I am picturing. Send out an email that has two options:

1. Pledge to donate which then adds to the pledge counter.
2. Let them go to the website and join Facebook event, which then notifies you that this email is attending and also adds them to the pledge counter.

Of course, there would need to be a filter to make sure the same email isn't on the counter twice for doing both things.

Yes, I think this is generally how it would work.

 

[lucent]

dusman, your Inbox is full. I've got an idea I want to send via PM.

 

[lucent]

dusman, PM sent.

 

[jtbraine]

well blowback slamming is out of the question then

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[nathanielyao]

Propagation should be done. If you are seeing a blank page or an error when you go to the website, please post and let us know.

Most up to date info in the first post.

 

[1stAmendguy]

Reposting this.

I think a good slogan for the Tea Party/Dec. 16th moneybomb could be:

"Take Back Our Tea Party" or

"Take Back The Tea Party"

We really need a catchy name for this moneybomb to be as successful as it can be. Learn a lesson from Black THIS Out.

 

[TexMac]

Facebook event is up:
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=256624911052518
This event will be closed when it gets near 5,000. Please see the Decentralize Facebook thread for more info.

You can't "close" an event. Once it's over, it goes dead. We are using these things in ways facebook never intended them to be used. You have to look at what they actually do and adapt them. When you start an event, you have to put in the date of the event. It can be a range, like an ongoing event. But once the date of the event passes, the event dies. You can no longer edit anything or message anyone. So, there is no way to close an event unless you just want to kill it and what's the point in that?

Another thing about how events work is that they are set up so that people can invite their friends. What happens, like with BTO and almost any event we do, is that tens of thousands of people get invited. Not all of them click "attend" so they are left in a status called "waiting for reply." Some will click "maybe" and some will click "not attending." You may have 10,000+ people in "Waiting for Reply." As an administrator, you can message ALL of these people except the ones who clicked "not attending." UNTIL you get 5000 Attending, at that point messaging ability goes away. So, even if you could theoretically close an event somehow, which you can't, you would still have all these people in the "Waiting for Reply" status. As soon as the 5001st person "Attends," you can no longer communicate with any of your guests. As far as I can see, if you want to use a fb event, you either have to resign yourself to the fact that it will be enormous and you can never message any those people (and we saw how well that worked for BTO) or you have to use multiple events to keep them under 5000 attending.

 

[nathanielyao]

I was thinking of closing an event by making it no longer publicly accessible, but not actually cancelling the event. The 5001 attendees and loss of messaging, does that also include the "maybe" attendees?

You can't "close" an event. Once it's over, it goes dead. We are using these things in ways facebook never intended them to be used. You have to look at what they actually do and adapt them. When you start an event, you have to put in the date of the event. It can be a range, like an ongoing event. But once the date of the event passes, the event dies. You can no longer edit anything or message anyone. So, there is no way to close an event unless you just want to kill it and what's the point in that?

Another thing about how events work is that they are set up so that people can invite their friends. What happens, like with BTO and almost any event we do, is that tens of thousands of people get invited. Not all of them click "attend" so they are left in a status called "waiting for reply." Some will click "maybe" and some will click "not attending." You may have 10,000+ people in "Waiting for Reply." As an administrator, you can message ALL of these people except the ones who clicked "not attending." UNTIL you get 5000 Attending, at that point messaging ability goes away. So, even if you could theoretically close an event somehow, which you can't, you would still have all these people in the "Waiting for Reply" status. As soon as the 5001st person "Attends," you can no longer communicate with any of your guests. As far as I can see, if you want to use a fb event, you either have to resign yourself to the fact that it will be enormous and you can never message any those people (and we saw how well that worked for BTO) or you have to use multiple events to keep them under 5000 attending.

 

[Liber Team]

This is a bad idea. Dec 16th is way too late to have any effect on early states.

 

[DavidK]

Whenever this event ends up taking place, I have a stack of cash with Dr. Pauls name on it.

 

[TexMac]

I was thinking of closing an event by making it no longer publicly accessible, but not actually cancelling the event. The 5001 attendees and loss of messaging, does that also include the "maybe" attendees?

Have you checked to see if you can do that? I just looked at an event I have and it can't be changed from public to private, but I don't know what makes it unchangeable. It may be that after some people attend and invite other guests, it can't be changed? Don't know. And if you change it to private, what happens to all the "waiting for reply" people? Are they no longer allowed to attend? It's my understanding that you lose the ability to message after 5000 attending, not counting maybes and waiting.

 

[TexMac]

Whenever this event ends up taking place, I have a stack of cash with Dr. Pauls name on it.

There's a moneybomb going on this weekend, why don't you donate it now?

 

[McDermit]

Whenever this event ends up taking place, I have a stack of cash with Dr. Pauls name on it.

Then donate it today.

If you can afford to donate today, do it.