TeaParty11.com - Dec 16th Money Bomb - Ron Paul Tea Party

And, if you think we're going to work on adding any names to that list so you all can hoard them, think again. Like I said, we don't need a list that we can't use.
 
How about this for the text of the pledge:

Dear fellow patriot,

On December 16th, 1773, American colonists dumped tea into the Boston Harbor to protest an oppressive tax. This was one of first acts of the patriots that sparked the American Revolution that brought about our great country.

There is a new rEVOLution going on. (with EVOL in red or tea color). This rEVOLution has inspired millions of Americans to come together and unite behind a message of freedom and fiscal responsibility (might want to tweak this a bit). This message is embodied in the Presidential Campaign of Congressman Ron Paul.

We have seen its spark in 2007. We have seen its first fruits in 2010. Now we are aiming for the top. Join us this December 16th, 2011, as we dump millions of dollars into the Ron Paul presidential campaign to Restore America Now. Our goal is to bring together 100,000 patriots to donate $100 each, creating a one day donation total of $10,000,000.
 
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how about this...

Here is an idea.. how about Dec. 16th Paul supporters show up to Occupy events around the country?

I asked Doug Wead to ask Ron Paul to ask us to take our tea party back. We need leadership from Ron on this historic date.
 
nathanielyao said:
How about this for the text of the pledge:

Dear fellow patriot,

On December 16th, 1773, American colonists dumped tea into the Boston Harbor to protest an
oppressive tax. This was one of first acts of the patriots that sparked the American Revolution that brought about our great country.

There is a new rEVOLution going on. (with EVOL in red or tea color). This rEVOLution has inspired millions of Americans to come together and unite behind a message of freedom and fiscal responsibility (might want to tweak this a bit). This message is embodied in the Presidential Campaign of Congressman Ron Paul.

We have seen it's spark in 2007. We have seen its first fruits in 2010. Now we are aiming for the top. Join us this December 16th, 2011, as we dump millions of dollars into the Ron Paul presidential campaign to Restore America Now. Our goal is to bring together 100,000 patriots to donate $100 each, creating a one day donation total of $10,000,000.
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I like the text: it's great and definitely better then the one you showed before. Only two things:

- "its sparks" instead of "it's sparks" in last paragraph
- I'd say aim for $5,000,000 something which is more realistic and we can get close to. If we are on let's say 40.000 pledges (which would be really great) it might encourage people to go for 50.000 pledges more. If at the same time we are aiming for 100.000 pledges, it doesn't psychology help the fundraising I think. I'd rather say 50.000 pledges, or maybe even lower 30.000 pledges.
 
TexMac said:
Well, I think you guys are getting sucked into the black hole of feeling sorry for yourselves, because from the vantage point of all of us working on the vet's day bomb, it looks like we've asked and asked for some emails to OUR email list and the guys who hold the access are ignoring us. All of you have withdrawn from the forum and are difficult to reach by PM and you certainly aren't reading our posts on the moneybomb threads, where we've talked about emails repeatedly. So, to us, it looks like you took your football and went home because you're mad or something. Too bad for us, right?
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TexMac, I think you're allowing your emotions to get to you here. Dusman has been very helpful to us and was partly responsible for BTO's success. If you read his reply, he said that he was waiting on a communication from the leader of this money bomb (Gage) on how to handle these emails, yet there has been no communication. Dusman didn't want to just ignore Gage in this process and send out an email on his own. I know I'd probably feel uncomfortable as well if I were in his position. I wouldn't want Gage to accuse me of trying to take over the project. That's why he was waiting on a communication from him on it, but unfortunately we have a leader that doesn't want to lead and take responsibility for doing everything necessary to make this thing a success. Instead, I contacted Dusman about it and now that he's received an official word on it (Even though I'm not the leader) he's working on putting together an email to be sent out. As he said, he didn't want to step on Gage's toes in this process and I can understand that.

TexMac said:
It belongs to all of us, not you.

And, if you think we're going to work on adding any names to that list so you all can hoard them, think again. Like I said, we don't need a list that we can't use
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You must not have read this...

dusman said:
My primary objective for BTO was to start rebuilding the list we had available in 07, that was carelessly handled in the lieu of profit-potential, and to keep it available to the grassroots so that the mistakes made in 07 aren't made again.
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The whole point of obtaining a new email list was to make it more available for the grasroots to use. It's not Dusman's fault that we have someone in charge that isn't communicating properly with the grassroots and taking responsibility for getting all these tasks done like getting emails sent out. Dusman was actually supposed to head up this money bomb and transition his money bomb system into 11/11/11, but Gage jumped in before we could get things setup and is now acting like a wall between the campaign and $4.2 million. If Gage had just come on the forum and discussed it with everybody and what his plans were for 11/11/11 instead of just making the official website and deciding the theme for everybody, we'd be in a much different situation right now. I orginally said that we should just ignore Gage's website and continue with our own plans with Dusman as the head of the project. The market would have decided which person was better to lead the project.

Also, Dusman isn't ignoring our pleas on the forum to send out an email. He's just hasn't been working on this money bomb and so he has not been reading the planning thread. The only way for him to be made aware of it was for someone to contact him about it and the only official communication he received about sending one out came from me. If Gage was actually here on the forum helping us to plan this thing, he would have contacted Dusman himself and talked about the content of the email that was to be sent out. If you want to find someone to blame, I think you should put the blame on the leader of this money bomb and the lack of communication/discussion.
 
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If Gage isn't responding, go around him. You guys are letting this inane "waiting for Gage" thing HURT THE MONEYBOMB which in turn hurts RON PAUL. I get that you want to show Gage up about how awful he's being but GET OVER IT.

It does not take a week to send out an email! There should have been TEN sent out by now. Get it going! Write the damn email and get it sent out. We are 2 days out,no time for hurt feelings getting in the way of what must be done.

Just because Trevor did the website and "lead" the moneybomb doesn't mean everyone who puts up the website is a leader. Clearly Gage has no idea what to do, so let's get it done! Give me the list and I WILL get it done! Or give it to someone who will!

dusman, you are NOT acting like a leader, either. You have walked away from this moneybomb, which is fine except you took stuff we need! Leave us the list and go abandon the moneybomb on your own! You have no right to hold that list and not send out the emails you, as a "leader" know NEED to be sent.

Now quit acting like spoiled brats and let's get this DONE.
 
I've done what I can without having to wait for Gage, but there are many things where we do need his help, since he's the one controlling the website. Dusman didn't simply abandon this money bomb. He tried to influence its direction through Gage in the beginning, but as he found out, he was being ignored and so he moved his focus back to his business and the next money bomb, things that he could control. There's not much he can do to influence the direction of 11/11/11 if he can't control the website and add features that would help promotion efforts.

I agree though that we should have dropped the "Waiting for Gage" thing a long time ago. That's why I contacted Dusman to tell him to send one out. It probably shouldn't have taken this long to figure this out so I agree with you there. It should have been sent out on the 1st, but there's nothing we can do about that now. If nothing is sent out by today then I'd say that we have a problem.

One other thing though, and it's something Dusman brought up in his post. We were able to attain those 11,000 emails starting from scratch. We didn't have an email list to help kickstart BTO. We did it on our own. Since this one hasn't even passed 1,000 pledges yet with the money bomb only a couple days away, I think it's safe to assume there were some serious structural problems with this thing to begin with, most of it probably stemming from the theme.

What I'm saying is that 11/11/11 was started from scratch also without an email list and wasn't even able to pass 1,000 pledges, where BTO reached 11,000 easily. So even if Dusman had used the BTO email list several times leading up to 11/11/11, I don't think it would have made any significant difference. The problems are more structural and less to do with our ability to inform supporters about it. The theme was decided without our input, so there's nothing any of us could have done to salvage this mess anyway. Actually, scratch that. There is one thing we could have done. We could have just built a different website with a better theme and pushed that instead. That could have made all the difference. So on leading instead of waiting, you're definitely right that we failed there. We could have just done our own thing, bulit our own website and our own theme and avoided this mess to begin with.
 
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Yes, so we have two days to do what we can to get this off the ground. I'm posting all day on FB and RP articles, who's in? Let's blitz the internet! This post is very effective:
Ron Paul has almost 600,000 "Likes" on his facebook page. What if each person who liked Ron gave his campaign $20? All on one day, Veteran's Day! It would be a historic donation day and Ron would be in the MSM for days! Please participate in the MoneyBomb and let's make history! For Ron Paul and freedom!https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117277025049386
Ron Paul Moneybomb!
Friday, November 11 at 12:00am


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Substitute your own event or use mine, whatever. Just get out there! We also have some useful graphics and suggestions here: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulMoneyBombers. I have that site set up so the same people will be able to work on the next moneybomb on facebook. The most active people will be invited to the MoneyBombers closed group after the 11-11-11 bomb is done. Anyone who wants in, let me know.

ETA: Don't assume everyone knows what a moneybomb IS. We have a LOT of new Ron Paul supporters that have only the vaguest notion of what we mean by "moneybomb."
 
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Sounds great TexMac, thanks for taking the lead on the FB side of things. We also will need to focus on the rest of the non-FB users as well. I have been away for a while and many things have changed, is there a coordinated twitter effort?

TexMac said:
Yes, so we have two days to do what we can to get this off the ground. I'm posting all day on FB and RP articles, who's in? Let's blitz the internet! This post is very effective: Substitute your own event or use mine, whatever. Just get out there! We also have some useful graphics and suggestions here: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulMoneyBombers. I have that site set up so the same people will be able to work on the next moneybomb on facebook. The most active people will be invited to the MoneyBombers closed group after the 11-11-11 bomb is done. Anyone who wants in, let me know.

ETA: Don't assume everyone knows what a moneybomb IS. We have a LOT of new Ron Paul supporters that have only the vaguest notion of what we mean by "moneybomb."
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Dusman, did you ever look into that idea you were talking about with the Facebook app and my decentralized approach to Facebook events? I don't believe you ever really explained what you were talking about, but that you had an idea.

Personally, I think this decentralized approach to Facebook events would work a lot better if there was some way of organizing them on the Tea Party website. For example, people would manually add their events to the website and it would list them in order by the number of attendees. It would give an overall total and our strategy would be written out for people to read, which is basically to use the events as a way to push attendees to pledge on the official money bomb website.

Is there any way we could have something like this created to keep track of the events and organize them? It would basically be the central hub for managing our decentralized strategy. That might sound contradictory, but if you read about the strategy here, it should make sense. I think having a central location to organize and keep track of our progress would aid in our ability to carry this out. I tried to do it with an unoffical forum thread by keeping a leader board, but it just wasn't working out, at least for 11/11/11.
 
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Sentinelrv said:
Dusman, did you ever look into that idea you were talking about with the Facebook app and my decentralized approach to Facebook events? I don't believe you ever really explained what you were talking about, but that you had an idea.

Personally, I think this decentralized approach to Facebook events would work a lot better if there was some way of organizing them on the Tea Party website. For example, people would manually add their events to the website and it would list them in order by the number of attendees. It would give an overall total and our strategy would be written out for people to read, which is basically to use the events as a way to push attendees to pledge on the official money bomb website.

Is there any way we could have something like this created to keep track of the events and organize them? It would basically be the central hub for managing our decentralized strategy. That might sound contradictory, but if you read about the strategy here, it should make sense. I think having a central location to organize and keep track of our progress would aid in our ability to carry this out. I tried to do it with an unoffical forum thread by keeping a leader board, but it just wasn't working out, at least for 11/11/11.
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Here was the app, but unfortunately it won't work in this way for attendees: http://www.contestburner.com/facebookfanpageapp/

However, it might work as a good alternative.
 
Would someone like to take responsibility for reaching out to the meetups about having rallies for Dec 16th?
 
nathanielyao said:
Facebook event is up:
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=256624911052518
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Good idea putting the website address in the title, though this might look a little better...

TeaParty11.com - Ron Paul's Dec 16th Tea Party Money Bomb

Also, what are we going to do with the Facebook strategy TexMac came up with? We haven't really gotten the chance to see its effectiveness yet, since nobody was interested in promoting 11/11/11. If it's impossible to incorporate an automatically updating total of all the Facebook events, maybe we should think about doing a manually updated leaderboard. I actually just noticed today that Gage created this page where people can submit their Facebook event and he can list them, though it isn't a leader board and it doesn't keep track of numbers.

If a page on the Tea Party website could be setup just for this and Dusman or somebody gave me access, I could receive emails from people submitting their Facebook events and add them to the page. I would also manually update the rankings on the leader board and the attendee totals for everyone. The top 10 could be listed on the front page as well as the overall total and there would be a link to the expanded page with the entire leader board, the rules and the explanation of the decentralized strategy.

Maybe we could even run two separate competitions, one for the pledge competition that Dusman created for Black This Out and one for Facebook event attendees. Each top 10 leader board could be listed on the front page side by side underneath the main content. The pledge competition would automatically update and the Facebook competition would be manually updated by me every day.
 
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I just thought of this, so I figured I'd add it here also. If there were two separate leader boards, the Facebook events would aid the email pledges. People would keep track of their standing on the Facebook event leader board, which would motivate people to obtain more attendees. Then they could use the referral link they get from the email pledge competition to push people on their Facebook events to pledge on the official website. This would allow one to aid the other, ultimately increasing pledges.
 
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