State of the Union address 2014 - Official thread

[devil21]

It's not necessarily what you say, but how you say it. And so far, I would be passed out if I wasn't drinking coffee watching this response......

Actually, it's not what you say, it's what the person hears. That's the key to political speech. The SOTU was full of this sort of thing and Obama is a master of it. "Pay equality" could mean raising wages....or it can mean lowering them. People want to think it's raising wages so that's what they hear. Obama got elected on a platform of saying what people wanted to hear, not what he actually said. It continues 6 years later.

 

[devil21]

It's not necessarily what you say, but how you say it. And so far, I would be passed out if I wasn't drinking coffee watching this response......



If he was aiming to put people to sleep, I think he hit the target. Other than that, I'm honestly not sure what type of response this was to the actual State of the Union.
I'm going to get another cup of coffee now. Seriously, whoever is "helping" Rand with this stuff, either should quit now or go take a class (I'm assuming they never have).

He did much better in the Sunday interviews with questions/answers, than here. And this was pre-tapped, or pre-written and ready to go before the recording?

Rand got a lot more coverage than I expected. His response got attention. Still years till serious campaigning. He looks great imho. I have some great ad ideas but it's too early to post them. Here's a hint though. Dem rhetoric reminds me of late night personal injury attorney ads. Have you ever xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx? We have someone to blame! Call now!

 

[Occam's Banana]

h/t Charles Burris: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/obamanomics/

Obamanomics

The State of the Union in less than five minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08

 

[devil21]

Cruz is excoriating Obama for selective enforcement of the laws.

Did Cruz mention cannabis again??


Also, what is a "first time saver" that Obama mentioned?

 

[jjdoyle]

Nooooo. It's now apparent that you just have an axe to grind. Obama could have removed prisoners from Gitmo. It's a fucking joke that he hasn't after all these years but has kept talking about doing so even today.

The majority of Obama's speech was about spending money on training, unemployment and equalizing salaries. Rand spoke directly to what most of Obama's speech was about.

Not sure if you know some of the details on Gitmo, but apparently Congress has some purse strings involved, at least according to the article below:
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/15/why-obama-cant-close-guantanamo/

"The responsibility lies not so much with the White House but with Congress, which has thwarted President Barack Obama's plans to close the detention center, which the Bush administration opened on January 11, 2002 with 20 captives.Congress has used its spending oversight authority both to forbid the White House from financing trials of Guantánamo captives on U.S. soil and to block the acquisition of a state prison in Illinois to hold captives currently held in Cuba who would not be put on trial - a sort of Guantánamo North. The current defense bill now before Congress not only reinforces these restrictions but moves to mandate military detention for most future al Qaeda cases unless the president signs a waiver. The White House withdrew a veto threat on the eve of likely passage Wednesday, saying the latest language gives the executive enough wiggle room to avoid military custody.
On paper, at least, the Obama administration would be set to release almost half the current captives at Guantánamo. The 2009 Task Force Review concluded that about 80 of the 171 detainees now held at Guantánamo could be let go if their home country was stable enough to help resettle them or if a foreign country could safely give them a new start."

So, no, no axe to grind. I just didn't think it was a very good response, to the State of the Union. His interviews on Sunday were much better.

 

[alucard13mm]

Photoshop for Great Justice.

Dear leader does not approve.

poison!!

 

[Travlyr]

starts at 9 pm ET



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5djtYZuqz_8

At 5:21:30 when Obama tells Congress he is going to usurp their authority and act unconstitutionally, he gets a standing ovation from Congress. Absolutely disgusting.