Speculation Mounts That Ron Paul Will Launch Third Party Presidential Bid On Tuesday’s Ton

[tangent4ronpaul]

Are you shitting me!!!

Now I know why Collins is taking even more heat than he normally does.

See what happens when you start rumors Collins? It was actually you that I'm pissed at right now. Time will tell if the other rumor becomes verified or not, but I'm now fully on board us trying. I seee far mroe positive than negative. We have a kickass grassroots PR division here (some campaign excluded )

Yeah - the way I remember it unfolding is Collins started it here
Someone unknown posted a lets drft Paul thing and referenced Collins thing in saying announcement on Leno
Then ronpaulrocks1 dragged it over and posted it here
then Elantz(sp?) started an events page on FB and a bunch of us started pushing it
then Evan caught wind of it, started another FB page after contacting Dr. Paul and did the conference call.
now he's gotten through to the heads of the LP and they seem open to the prospect.

Now it all depends on us asking him to, Dr. paul saying yes and the LP universally wanting him. oh, and maybe GJ stepping down too.

-t

 

[CPUd]

Yeah - the way I remember it unfolding is Collins started it here
(*)
Someone unknown posted a lets drft Paul thing and referenced Collins thing in saying announcement on Leno
Then ronpaulrocks1 dragged it over and posted it here
then Elantz(sp?) started an events page on FB and a bunch of us started pushing it
then Evan caught wind of it, started another FB page after contacting Dr. Paul and did the conference call.
now he's gotten through to the heads of the LP and they seem open to the prospect.

Now it all depends on us asking him to, Dr. paul saying yes and the LP universally wanting him. oh, and maybe GJ stepping down too.

-t

* the Bloomberg interview was rehashed on a couple blogs, by the time it got here, it was "Ron Paul washed his hands of the GOP"

 

[ClydeCoulter]

No way should Ron accept VP imho. It would be an incredible demotion and he wouldn't get in the debates because only Gary would be polled and Gary gets 1%.

Yes, it HAS to be Ron as President. No other option makes sense. Read my letter to LP members at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...uesday’s-Ton&p=4628149&viewfull=1#post4628149

 

[Carlybee]

Maybe someone should make a poll. I tried but it didn't work.

Yes as Pres only
Yes VP is fine too
No he should retire
Undecided

or something like that

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Another Collins-induced speculation frenzy comes to nothing.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Maybe someone should make a poll. I tried but it didn't work.

Yes as Pres only
Yes VP is fine too
No he should retire
Undecided

or something like that

Post a new message
enter title
enter body off message
scroll down under where it says post
click the box that says post a poll with this message
enter number of questions (2-20)
hit post
your post comes up, then it takes you to the create poll page

-t

 

[Matt Collins]

Another Collins-induced speculation frenzy comes to nothing.

I didn't speculate or induce anyone to think that he was going to launch a 3rd party bid. In fact I did the opposite. Nice try and blaming me though.

 

[bw68]

As much as I'd like to see Ron Paul run as a third party it is not going to happen. He would have to alienate all his local supporters who were voted into the local Republican party committees. Here in Maine over half of the committee positions were replaced by Ron Paul supporters. I'm sure that happened in many other states as well.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

As much as I'd like to see Ron Paul run as a third party it is not going to happen. He would have to alienate all his local supporters who were voted into the local Republican party committees. Here in Maine over half of the committee positions were replaced by Ron Paul supporters. I'm sure that happened in many other states as well.

If Ron Paul gets into the debates, they will have ammo, lot's of ammo to use to support their support. Don't they want to stop Obama?

 

[Veteran Citizen]

Yeah - the way I remember it unfolding is Collins started it here
Someone unknown posted a lets drft Paul thing and referenced Collins thing in saying announcement on Leno
Then ronpaulrocks1 dragged it over and posted it here
then Elantz(sp?) started an events page on FB and a bunch of us started pushing it
then Evan caught wind of it, started another FB page after contacting Dr. Paul and did the conference call.
now he's gotten through to the heads of the LP and they seem open to the prospect.

Now it all depends on us asking him to, Dr. paul saying yes and the LP universally wanting him. oh, and maybe GJ stepping down too.

-t

There are some other issues out there.

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In United States politics, a sore-loser law is a law which states that the loser in a primary election can't then run as an independent in the general election.[1] In most states, these laws do not apply to presidential candidates. Many states accomplish the same requirement by having simultaneous registration dates for the primary and the general election; in fact only the states of Connecticut, Iowa, New York and Vermont don't have either a sore-loser law or simultaneous registration deadlines.[2]

In Michigan, one of the few states where this law applies to Presidential elections as well, Gary Johnson was three minutes late to withdraw from the 2012 Republican Primary and was therefore on the ballot. As a result, he was denied ballot access as a Libertarian. The case is currently pending arguments in the Michigan Supreme Court. However, the Libertarian Party stated that since petitioning in Michigan is by party, not by person, a Texas businessman who is also named Gary E. Johnson will stand in and run for president as a Libertarian in Michigan in the event that Governor Johnson is denied access. [3]

I think GJ/JG deserve our support. Paul should be promised a high level cabinet position, and endorse them. It is really the best chance we have. I've had enough dreams shattered to start considering reality as an alternative.

 

[Occam's Banana]

People are blinded to think the GOP party can be overtaken. It cannot! It's a lost cause at the national level. Gary North has even acknowledged this fact. Seriously, some of you live in la la land, far from reality.

You are being disingenuous. The only people indulging fantasies about about winning at the national level are those who insist on imagining that a special candidate (such as Ron Paul) or a 3rd-party bid or an "Indy" party will somehow magically be able to get around the cold, hard facts of electoral reality. Those of us who see a GOP insurgency as the only viable option have repeatedly stated that it must be of a bottom-up nature at the local/state level - the *exact* opposite of a "national level" approach. You conveniently ignore that *that* is the fact that Gary North acknowledged.

FTA:

CONCLUSION

If the followers of Ron Paul will ever make any difference, they are going to have to spread out and burrow in. They are going to have to go back to their hometowns, get active in local politics, and spend the next 25 years or even 50 years figuring out how the local system runs, and then taking it over. This has to be a bottom-up transformation. There is no possibility of capturing power at the top of either party. To capture control of either party will require fringe people to go to the local county level and to spend at least a generation, and maybe two generations, building a political network that will enable them to control the terms of discourse at the top. They have to do an end run around Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. This will not be easy.

 

[torchbearer]

You are being disingenuous. The only people indulging fantasies about about winning at the national level are those who insist on imagining that a special candidate (such as Ron Paul) or a 3rd-party bid or an "Indy" party will somehow magically be able to get around the cold, hard facts of electoral reality. Those of us who see a GOP insurgency as the only viable option have repeatedly stated that it must be of a bottom-up nature at the local/state level - the *exact* opposite of a "national level" approach. You conveniently ignore that *that* is the fact that Gary North acknowledged.

FTA:

my plans for next election cycle will be focused 90% on getting scc members elected so we take this mofo over-
that is the only way we get a fair election.

 

[Occam's Banana]

my plans for next election cycle will be focused 90% on getting scc members elected so we take this mofo over-
that is the only way we get a fair election.

Exactly! Good luck & give 'em hell!