Speculation Mounts That Ron Paul Will Launch Third Party Presidential Bid On Tuesday’s Ton

[phill4paul]

Can we please NOT spread rumors?

Don't be mad. If it does nothing more than drive some to watch the show out of a sense of curiosity then they will be greeted by a consistent message from Ron. I don't see a down side seeing as this rumour will be confirmed or denied in a matter of hours.

 

[rp08orbust]

We'd end up with a situation where Ron might get 11-12% with Gary getting 3-4%.

I'll be very surprised if Gary Johnson gets 2% without Ron Paul in the race.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I'll be very surprised if Gary Johnson gets 2% without Ron Paul in the race.

Same here, much as I hate to say it. Nader got around 2.7% in 2000, and he had pretty significant media coverage for a third party candidate plus large rallies. He received well under 1% the last two times he ran after that.

 

[PreDeadMan]

what time does it start?? i have band practice at 7-9

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

what time does it start?? i have band practice at 7-9

it's 11 or 11:30pm EST - pretty sure 11:30.

Leno's ratings tonight are going to be on ORBIT!

-t

 

[69360]

This is getting like silly season. Ron won't even endorse Gary and people think they will run on the same ticket?

Ron and Jay will have a nice chat about the election and maybe touch on the RNC. That's all it is.

 

[rp08orbust]

This is getting like silly season. Ron won't even endorse Gary and people think they will run on the same ticket?

Would you endorse someone you were about to replace?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I don't really know. But Hillary was just offered Biden's spot. How would that work procedurally?

Link? - I'm finding nothing in the news.

-t

 

[Matt Collins]

Have you spoken to Ron yourself to verify that the speculation and rumors have no legs?

Why would an unsubstantiated rumor be assumed to have legs? The default position is that it has no merit unless it originates from some sort of authoritative or at least verifiable source.

As far as we know he isn't going on to endorse Johnson or Romney, so what do you think his announcement will be?
Also, why do you care if it turns out to be a false rumor? I think everyone's expectations have already been tempered after the convention for this go round.

I have no idea what to expect, but I would bet everything I have that he won't be running for President any more. Also, false hope is worse than no hope.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Can we please NOT spread rumors?

Good god, now I know what it feels like to be crushed by a trainload of irony.

 

[coffeewithgames]

Why would an unsubstantiated rumor be assumed to have legs? The default position is that it has no merit unless it originates from some sort of authoritative or at least verifiable source.

So, when the media reported of a Romney/Paul alliance, we were told, "No way, that's not true, not even possible." Now, we find out it was true, and that RP's campaign effectively campaigned for Mitt Romney by attacking Rick Santorum. I guess "verifiable source" would be a media outlet right?

I have no idea what to expect, but I would bet everything I have that he won't be running for President any more. Also, false hope is worse than no hope.

Exactly. Two campaigns wasting time, money, efforts, sacrifices of supporters/donors. It's the worst possible outcome possible. When you run a presidential campaign, you run it to win it. Or, you get out and go back to C4L ASAP. You don't drag your feet along, just so you can keep getting donations apparently for staff salaries.

In general, I agree though. Unless CNN, Fox, MSNBC, Rush, Sean, or somebody else within the media has a source (how about somebody that was in the crowd for the taping of the show?), this has no legs.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This is getting like silly season. Ron won't even endorse Gary and people think they will run on the same ticket?

Ron and Jay will have a nice chat about the election and maybe touch on the RNC. That's all it is.

In spite of how nice it is to speculate, I think you are right.

They'll mildly chat election stuff, perhaps some vague future plans that Ron has, maybe talk cars and tractors for minute, and that's it.

 

[TheGrinch]

Why would an unsubstantiated rumor be assumed to have legs? The default position is that it has no merit unless it originates from some sort of authoritative or at least verifiable source.

I have no idea what to expect, but I would bet everything I have that he won't be running for President any more. Also, false hope is worse than no hope.

Bullshit. Apathy never got anyone anything but nothing. You seem to think we're not mature enough to where we need to be coddled, instead of keeping up hope until it is truly over to move on to the next fights.

So while I agree that the expectations should not be raised to where one is crushed if it doesn't happen, but I will never give up hope, and that doesn't end with Dr. Paul. Most of here realize the kind of long odds we're working with, but if we don't have hope we have nothing...

 

[Liberty74]

Link? - I'm finding nothing in the news.

The VP spot was Hillary's for the taking but she refused.

 

[Matt Collins]

So, when the media reported of a Romney/Paul alliance, we were told, "No way, that's not true, not even possible." Now, we find out it was true, and that RP's campaign effectively campaigned for Mitt Romney by attacking Rick Santorum. I guess "verifiable source" would be a media outlet right?

Uhh.. no that's not true. In some areas RP's Campaign worked together with other campaigns on specific tactics. But there wasn't any sort of widespread collusion as you are alleging.

Exactly. Two campaigns wasting time, money, efforts, sacrifices of supporters/donors. It's the worst possible outcome possible.

You make no sense. We more than doubled what we did in 2008, and we are trending upwards. And we'll do much better next time. If you don't see that then you obviously are blinded by your own preconceived notions.

 

[RickyJ]

I hope he runs but only as Presidential candidate, and I'm getting the feeling the idea that the LP was open to that was false. Ron would have to be able to use his polling to get into the presidential debates, and without being on the LP ticket (or CP if we can get them on more ballots still) I don't know if that can happen. I hope to be proven unnecessarily skeptical, but the reason I was getting into this is I had gotten the impression the LP had put the ticket on the table.

We need to get through to both the LP and Gary Johnson that if they aren't willing to have Ron Paul head their ticket that they can't expect our votes in November.

 

[Liberty74]

In spite of how nice it is to speculate, I think you are right.

They'll mildly chat election stuff, perhaps some vague future plans that Ron has, maybe talk cars and tractors for minute, and that's it.

And people go on these late night shows to chat about news and stuff? Since when? Honestly, I don't watch these shows anymore because I haven't had cable or basic TV in 6 years but when I did, the people were always on these shows to PROMOTE THEMSELVES for a reason (movie, TV show, campaign, music albums, etc). Why is Ron Paul promoting himself? For what reason?

I guess we will find out in about 6 hours.

 

[RickyJ]

And people go on these late night shows to chat about news and stuff? Since when? Honestly, I don't watch these shows anymore because I haven't had cable or basic TV in 6 years but when I did, the people were always on these shows to PROMOTE THEMSELVES for a reason (movie, TV show, campaign, music albums, etc). Why is Ron Paul promoting himself? For what reason?

I guess we will find out in about 6 hours.

No, we will find out in about 20 minutes or so. This is happening NOW! Ron Paul supporters will get the word out as soon as they know what he says concerning running third party.

 

[phill4paul]

You make no sense. We more than doubled what we did in 2008, and we are trending upwards. And we'll do much better next time. If you don't see that then you obviously are blinded by your own preconceived notions.

And you attribute that to the campaign? LOL. No, I guess grassroots weren't out there in the trenches between campaigns winning hearts and minds?

 

[Liberty74]

You make no sense. We more than doubled what we did in 2008, and we are trending upwards. And we'll do much better next time. If you don't see that then you obviously are blinded by your own preconceived notions.

So what if we doubled in size from 2008? That does not mean there is an upward trajectory considering the Stalin GOP tactics to silence us through rules. People are blinded to think the GOP party can be overtaken. It cannot! It's a lost cause at the national level. Gary North has even acknowledged this fact. Seriously, some of you live in la la land, far from reality.