Senate votes to block Trump's emergency declaration

[enhanced_deficit]

In a setback for GOP-Adelson wing, Senate that rarely comes across a domestic/foreign spending bill that it doesn't like has finally voted against a spending Bill that MAGA desperately needed after recent gov shutdown fiasco that was seen as a political defeat by big part of GOP base and caused some high profile defections, 'scam' allegations and controversial FOLDing memes etc. This in turn may cause POTUS to finally take out veto pen that has not been seen in last couple of years of 'small gummit' America-Firster big spender debt exploding governance (national debt has surpassed $22T mark now).


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Senate votes to block Trump's emergency declaration

The Senate voted to block President Trump's emergency declaration, with 12 Republicans joining Democrats.
The final vote was 59 to 41.

What this means: The vote is a defeat for the White House. Both Trump and Vice President Mike Pence campaigned against the measure and now Trump will be forced to veto the resolution -- the first veto of his presidency.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/senate-vote-trump-national-emergency/index.html




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[oyarde]

We have a roll call ?

 

[Superfluous Man]

We have a roll call ?

CNN got that up quick I guess. As of now, the roll call isn't up on senate.gov yet.

 

[Superfluous Man]

It's not a full roll call, but here's a list of the 12 Republicans who voted for the bill (i.e. against Trump's emergency declaration):
http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/meet-12-gop-senators-voted-terminate-trumps-national-emergency

 

[Cleaner44]

So it looks like this doesn't really matter because Trump will veto it and there won't be any override. Am I wrong?

 

[juleswin]

So it looks like this doesn't really matter because Trump will veto it and there won't be any override. Am I wrong?

There is nothing to veto, nothing will be coming to his desk to sign.

 

[Superfluous Man]

There is nothing to veto, nothing will be coming to his desk to sign.

Why not?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

There is nothing to veto, nothing will be coming to his desk to sign.

This doesn't apply to current outcome then or was fakenews?




March 14, 2019 / 6:58 AM / Updated 9 hours ago
Trump vows to veto bill that would end border emergency declaration

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would reject legislation that would end his national emergency declaration at the U.S. border, if the bill passes the U.S. Senate.
“I am prepared to veto, if necessary,” Trump said in an early morning tweet sent as the Senate prepared to take up the measure later on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nd-border-emergency-declaration-idUSKCN1QV1FS

 

[juleswin]

Why not?

Nvm, I see it now. The bill is to block his emergency declaration

 

[enhanced_deficit]

So it looks like this doesn't really matter because Trump will veto it and there won't be any override. Am I wrong?

While this is technical step in a process but this is a significant political rebuke.
This was bound to be stuck for years in courts/ rejected and Senate vote shows a political Will also confirming same.
Even MAGA allies had similar view:

Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer hints courts may not agree with MAGA's "emergency declaration"

 

[Brett85]

Paul and Lee voted to uphold the Constitution. Cruz voted for blatant partisanship over principle.

 

[oyarde]

It's not a full roll call, but here's a list of the 12 Republicans who voted for the bill (i.e. against Trump's emergency declaration):
http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/meet-12-gop-senators-voted-terminate-trumps-national-emergency

Seems like trump could have gotten Lee and Portman if he had given them something .

 

[oyarde]

So it looks like this doesn't really matter because Trump will veto it and there won't be any override. Am I wrong?

There will never be 2/3 of anything to overide anything I suspect ?

 

[oyarde]

A lot of the GOP Senators have switched positions just in the past couple weeks . They seem confused .

 

[fedupinmo]

How did they invoke cloture with only 59 votes? Are the usual weak excuses ineffective in this matter?

 

[Superfluous Man]

How did they invoke cloture with only 59 votes? Are the usual weak excuses ineffective in this matter?

Do they need cloture if nobody filibusters?

 

[Cleaner44]

While this is technical step in a process but this is a significant political rebuke.
This was bound to be stuck for years in courts/ rejected and Senate vote shows a political Will also confirming same.
Even MAGA allies had similar view:

Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer hints courts may not agree with MAGA's "emergency declaration"

Significant political rebuke? What the hell does that matter? Washington DC is built on people doing whatever they want, even if it is blatantly unconstitutional and rarely are they stopped. Words don't matter, knowledge isn't power... the one thing that matters is action. Trump is taking action while the Congress is blabbering words. The barriers will keep going up on the border regardless of any rebuke.

Congress gave away much of their power of many decades. Stupid voters and politicians cheered creating a extra strong Executive branch. Nobody tried to seriously stop Obama or Bush or Clinton. We have had presidents create wars without Congressional declarations. We have unconstitutional spying on American citizens not suspected of any crimes. Let's face facts, the federal government of the US doesn't work for We The People.

Significant political rebuke. What next, strong words of disapproval from NY media corporations?

 

[spudea]

Hypocrites, didn't do shit all the times Obama abused executive powers. Remember DACA??? legal status created without congress???

 

[ProBlue33]

These are the 12 that would contribute to his impeachment if it ever got that far.
Now some are really mad at Rand, calling for a primary challenge.
Here is my issue with both sides on this Rand needs to be able to vote as a constitutional supporter on ideological grounds, Romney can go !@#$ himself he is the biggest traitor ever, he is just joining an Anti-Trump voting block.
It bothers me when the MAGA faction has gone full cult devotion basically saying nobody can vote against Trump for any reason, their reaction to Rand, "I liked Rand, but I can't forgive him for this, primary the traitor" That is not rational or helpful to political discourse and we despise it when the DNC does their cult devotion thing.

 

[dillo]

I smell a lot of politics in this move. The republicans can look like the good guys in a sense by voting to block it, however they dont have the 67 to override a veto. Then they pass legislation to remove emergency powers so the next Dem president can't do it.