Senate votes to block Trump's emergency declaration

Isn't Trump just using funds that were provided to the Executive branch by the Legislative branch?

No. Of course Congress in 1976 did not appropriate an indeterminate and possibly infinite number if dollars for an unknown number of future "emergencies". Few people believe something that silly, though those who do are spamming that opinion incessantly.
 
No. Of course Congress in 1976 did not appropriate an indeterminate and possibly infinite number if dollars for an unknown number of future "emergencies". Few people believe something that silly, though those who do are spamming that opinion incessantly.
Yes they did.
 
Yes they did.

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But the 1976 law authorizes the spending.

Yes.

There is an argument to be made that Congress can't or shouldn't give the President the kind of blank check that they did but that is not spelled out in the Constitution.

No it wasn't.

Congress appropriated them for emergencies in 1976.


Yes they did.

Keep repeating it until it's true like a propagandist XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Gee, I wonder why few of the regulars at ronpaulforums.com are buying that?
 
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Keep repeating it until it's true like a propagandist XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Gee, I wonder why few of the regulars at ronpaulforums.com are buying that?

Ron and Rand's argument is that the Constitution prevents Congress from doing what they did but the Constitution doesn't actually do that in so many words, it is a matter of interpretation.
 
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Keep repeating it until it's true like a propagandist XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Gee, I wonder why few of the regulars at ronpaulforums.com are buying that?

A bully who has no substance to what they say will simply outshout anyone who dares to disagree with them (or their Authoritairan Idol), almost always using the most emotionally imflamatory and divisive terms possible. Look at the average post count, and compare it to that of any legitimate Ron Paul supporter here. Then examine how well their empty rhetoric and tactics compare with Ron Paul's message of freedom bringing people together rather than dividing them, and following the golden rule. It doesn't take much to figure out what such people are really doing here, and it's shameful that the site owner and mods willfully condone this deliberate opposition to the site mission and conduct guidelines.
 
A bully who has no substance to what they say will simply outshout anyone who dares to disagree with them (or their Authoritairan Idol), almost always using the most emotionally imflamatory and divisive terms possible. Look at the average post count, and compare it to that of any legitimate Ron Paul supporter here. Then examine how well their empty rhetoric and tactics compare with Ron Paul's message of freedom bringing people together rather than dividing them, and following the golden rule. It doesn't take much to figure out what such people are really doing here, and it's shameful that the site owner and mods willfully condone this deliberate opposition to the site mission and conduct guidelines.
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There is one way Rand could have voted with Trump...the fiscal angle, illegal immigration is costing America millions of dollars via various means, whether it be criminals being incarcerated or lack of taxes paid or a drain on health care. He could have said the long term fiscal savings would Trump the overreach of power, and we will let the SCOTUS deal with an overreach that happens from the DNC on something like guns or abortion.
 
There is one way Rand could have voted with Trump...the fiscal angle, illegal immigration is costing America millions of dollars via various means, whether it be criminals being incarcerated or lack of taxes paid or a drain on health care. He could have said the long term fiscal savings would Trump the overreach of power, and we will let the SCOTUS deal with an overreach that happens from the DNC on something like guns or abortion.

And the Constitution? This Imperial Presidency you want Rand Paul to help prop up--how will you like it when next a Democrat is in the office?
 
No. Of course Congress in 1976 did not appropriate an indeterminate and possibly infinite number if dollars for an unknown number of future "emergencies". Few people believe something that silly, though those who do are spamming that opinion incessantly.

I certainly don't believe that. What I thought was happening is that in the latest budget, Congress appropriated funds to the DoD and now Trump is saying he will use those funds for national defense at the border. I haven't looked into it all that deeply so I have a lot of ignorance here. If this is just spending DoD money in a way that Democrats don't want, I doubt they can stop him because I figure most money isn't appropriated at a very detailed level.
 
And the Constitution? This Imperial Presidency you want Rand Paul to help prop up--how will you like it when next a Democrat is in the office?


The Constitution? Come now, my friend. Surely you know by now that as far as many of the "constitutionalists" around here any more are concerned, the Constitution means precisely what it must in order to allow for their desired outcomes, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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But the 1976 law authorizes the spending.

You keep saying that. And I've repeatedly asked you to find that provision in that law, and you have never been able to. Have you found it yet?

If not, then please stop saying this as if you know it to be true, when in fact you have absolutely no reason to believe it.
 
Isn't Trump just using funds that were provided to the Executive branch by the Legislative branch?

Yes. Funds that were provided to the Executive branch and appropriated to be spent on other things and not the fence that Trump wants to spend it on.
 
Yes. Funds that were provided to the Executive branch and appropriated to be spent on other things and not the fence that Trump wants to spend it on.

What other things I wonder. Does the Congress provide a detailed list as to what the funds are supposed to be spent on? I doubt that they do. Does anyone know where we can find the list of the things Congress did appropriate the money for?
 
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