Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

You can bet Russia and other geo-political foes will covertly support this with funds, propaganda, etc... If the US does it all over the world, you can bet they will divide and conquer here as well
 
I support California's right to succeed but they would be crazy to do so.

Water rights from Colorado have been federal diverted into Cali. If they succeed that stops or they pay for the water. California would become a wasteland.
 
There's not going to be any California secession. The people behind it seem to be serious (unlike in Texas circa 2009), but the popular support for secession is just more CA liberals virtue signaling how much they hate Trump.
 
There's not going to be any California secession. The people behind it seem to be serious (unlike in Texas circa 2009), but the popular support for secession is just more CA liberals virtue signaling how much they hate Trump.

i am going to do everything I can to help them get serious . I fully expect it to be on the ballot in 2018.
 
I can see this passing, the states saying "no", and civil war breaking out.

Or, I can see them seceding, going to hell in about 5 years, and crawling back.

Or, they go indie, do something to piss DC off, we send in troops, kick their asses, and reannex as a FEDERAL territory.

Either way, I do not se them coming through this in good shape. How could a place that stupidly managed maintain themselves? I don't see it.
 
Buzzkill.
I know my home state. Despite whether we're a tax drain or contributor, independence would be a disaster for CA. Mass immigration would crater wages, high taxation and regulation would drive businesses out of business and the rich to flee the state. California would also probably allow illegals to vote the moment they stepped foot South of San Diego. It would become a third world shithole within a decade or maybe two.
 
I know my home state. Despite whether we're a tax drain or contributor, independence would be a disaster for CA. Mass immigration would crater wages, high taxation and regulation would drive businesses out of business and the rich to flee the state. California would also probably allow illegals to vote the moment they stepped foot South of San Diego. It would become a third world shithole within a decade or maybe two.

NH is beautiful this time of year.
 
In support of CalExit, from June, 2016:

Georgia Now tied for 3rd Worldwide in Film Production

And for the first time on record, California did not host any of the top 25 live-action films at the worldwide box office in 2015, according to the study.

In fiscal 2015, Georgia hosted 248 total film and television productions, which had a $6 billion economic impact on the state, according to the Georgia Department of Economic Development. The direct spend of these projects was $1.7 billion.

"With all these new distribution models, we're seeing a lot of these projects pick Georgia," Thomas said. "Jason Bateman is directing a series, 'Ozark,' for Netflix that will be shooting here. Will Packer will have a series here, 'Buckhead.' At one point, we had nine pilots here."

Georgia revamped its tax incentives available to productions that choose to shoot here, and the industry has since skyrocketed. The film industry's economic impact increased over 2000 percent since 2008, and Thomas expects it will keep growing.
 
Here's a thought, if they chicken out and don't pass CalExit, should the new administration require some type of "reconstruction" for the state.

Not sure what form it would take but it needs to involve the establishment of a Dollywood type theme park, a Branson, Missouri type town, and at least one fossil fuel mine/plant.
 
How could a place that stupidly managed maintain themselves? I don't see it.

There is precedent.

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I know my home state. Despite whether we're a tax drain or contributor, independence would be a disaster for CA. Mass immigration would crater wages, high taxation and regulation would drive businesses out of business and the rich to flee the state. California would also probably allow illegals to vote the moment they stepped foot South of San Diego. It would become a third world shithole within a decade or maybe two.

My guess , maybe less than a decade and yes third world , but it must be done .
 
I notice all the people that are opposed are from Cali.

I'm thinking Ca. is like Ill. in that all the idiots are bunched up in concrete cubicles and the majority of the counties contain semi-regular folks...

But I don't know for sure......
 
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