Rudy Giuliani Calls Ron Paul 'a Kook' And a 'Cranky Old Man'

[heavenlyboy34]

This may be the most disturbing thread I've ever read.

I've seen worse.

 

[The Free Hornet]

Ironically enough, the Ghoul is the guy that made Ron Paul famous.

Do you have a reference for this? Is it one of the 2007 debate moments? Was it all that pivotal?

 

[devil21]

He's desperately trying to remain relevant. Ignore him.

 

[liveandletlive]

i used to respect Rudy as a law and order man, he sure cleaned up New York after Dinkins and i respected him for that...but like J Edgar Hoover he turned into a monster. "Mr. 9/11" has exposed himself as nothing more than a fascistic thug and a big government RINO pig. Oh and a Yankee fan.

what a disgrace

 

[Akus]

I've got a little harsher words for what I would call Giuliani.

you shouldn't get angry
when a drag wearing two timing prostitute like Guliani who is shunned, I understand, even by his own immediate family, calls Ron Paul a kook, it's a badge of honor for Ron Paul, and, in an indirect way, you.....

 

[Weston White]

Rudy Giuliani? Wasn't he at one time a prosecutor or the mayor of some vastly corrupt city (New York I think), that then ran for POTUS purely on a victimization platform or something like that? Oh, and his first name was that of a fictitious reindeer, something like “Rudolph”? So whatever happened to that guy?

 

[AdamT]

Benito Giuliani on freedom:

What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/20/n...y-excerpts-from-giuliani-speech-on-crime.html

Like, wow. Spoken like a true fascist. Facepalm.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Do you have a reference for this? Is it one of the 2007 debate moments? Was it all that pivotal?

It was the 2nd GOP debate during the last election cycle...Its the moment many Americans saw a relatively unknown politician standing up to a well known politician and the relatively unknown politician shocked the hell out of everybody.

 

[Weston White]

A kook is someone who says:

[ Interruption by someone in the audience. ]

You have free speech so I can be heard.

[ Another interruption. ]

Norman Siegel, the executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, said he was "floored" by the Mayor's definition.

"Order is an element of freedom," Mr. Siegel said. "But to put the emphasis on order rather than on a just and fair society is inverting the meaning and significance of freedom."

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/20/n...y-excerpts-from-giuliani-speech-on-crime.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/17/nyregion/some-free-speech-on-mayor-s-words.html

 

[Weston White]

lolol I had just realized the absolute atrociousness and hypocrisy of that guys misstatements:

We see only the oppressive side of authority. . . .

What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority.

Definition of AUTHORITY: power to influence or command thought, opinion, or behavior;


Gee now I wonder why that is, huh!

 

[UNC08]

For about three months in 2001 I thought the world of this guy. What a dick.

 

[QuickZ06]

And get "motorboated" by "The Donald".

So this is what the gop wants, drag queens and perverts.......

 

[Origanalist]

Says a guy whose been married 3 times, has no contact with his kids, and is often seen running around in a dress.

Typical republican..............

 

[Matt Collins]

He's still around? Who knew?

 

[radiofriendly]

Can anyone find audio/video of Giuliani calling Dr. Paul a crank? I did post what I think is the original video report on my live blog - it will give you the context...
but it's just the reporter recounting the back/forth with him:

http://iroots.org/2012/08/30/live-blog-rnc-convention-thursday-83012/

Here's the moment that blew fire in the Paul campaign in 2007.
I was already on board (for just a few months) but I knew this was the moment...I was jumping up and down
and thanking Rudy (and our Lord)...


and then things just kept getting fun...

 

[Kilrain]

and then things just kept getting fun...

Oh yeah, I remember this one. Especially "thumbs up" guy. I loved how they essentially trolled the news team, but did so in an almost respectful way. No shouting or anything, just so much positive energy.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Does anyone care what Giuliani says?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Does anyone care what Giuliani says?

I don't care. But I *am* mightily entertained.