RP said he wouldnt have had OBL killed?

[tmg19103]

So let the press jump all over RP on not killing OBL and heroin.

He will explain it in a manner that will win votes by turning it on its head in regards to wrong headed policies like all these wars in the Middle East, the "war on drugs", and how these failures are helping along the bankruptcy of this country.

 

[SilentBull]

Man, those comments are shit.

 

[SilentBull]

The conclusion I have come to is that the biggest problem in our country is actually the fact that voters really do not care for Liberty and Justice. They don't want liberty for their neighbors, only for themselves. They don't really believe in the rule of law. They only believe in what benefits them. This, my friends, is the biggest obstacle. The people are hypocritical garbage. "Live and let ME live, but please don't let my neighbor smoke, gamble, or do anything else I find offensive." F**k these a**holes!

 

[Romulus]

The conclusion I have come to is that the biggest problem in our country is actually the fact that voters really do not care for Liberty and Justice. They don't want liberty for their neighbors, only for themselves. They don't really believe in the rule of law. They only believe in what benefits them. This, my friends, is the biggest obstacle. The people are hypocritical garbage. "Live and let ME live, but please don't let my neighbor smoke, gamble, or do anything else I find offensive." F**k these a**holes!

Absolutely 100% Correct.

That is what we are up against.

+ rep.

 

[low preference guy]

Just because the Pakistanis "authorize" the assassination of an unarmed and unconvicted person does not mean it is moral, legal, or in any other way defensible for a U.S. President. Ron did not make a big mistake.

I was referring to his statement that he wouldn't have gone in.

 

[ronpaulitician]

All it takes is one well-thought out written statement by Ron Paul regarding this issue. That's really ALL it takes for any of these soundbites that can be spun against him.

"That Ru Paul dude is off his medz. He is unhappy that Obama bin Laden got killed!"

Reply: "Well, that is indeed how it is being spun by the mainstream media. Here's what Ron Paul has to say about the issue. <link to statement>."

 

[cornell]

Can someone clarify a point brought up on Page 1: was RP aware of the Pakistani authorization of a US raid on OBL before he gave this radio interview?

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

I agree this was a mistake. He should really consider the consequences of what he's saying.

He's also making himself seem ignorant. The "consensus" is that Pakistanis can't be fully trusted (whether that is true or not) and his answer is that he would basically rely on the Pakistani's.

How does this square with his original plan for Letters of Marque and Reprisal? He needs to differentiate himself from Obama while at the same time sounding sufficiently badass when answering this question.

 

[klamath]

I agree this was a mistake. He should really consider the consequences of what he's saying.

He's also making himself seem ignorant. The "consensus" is that Pakistanis can't be fully trusted (whether that is true or not) and his answer is that he would basically rely on the Pakistani's.

How does this square with his original plan for Letters of Marque and Reprisal? He needs to differentiate himself from Obama while at the same time sounding sufficiently badass when answering this question.

Unfortunately this it it. Do a poll right now and find out how many americans believe pakistan didn't know OBL was there. The majority believe they knew including myself. Tell the pakistanis and they would have tipped him off. It contradicts the arguemnt that I have been using for RP's defence that he would have gone directly for those responsible for 911. Well aparently not!

 

[low preference guy]

I agree this was a mistake. He should really consider the consequences of what he's saying.

The answer RP gave is the answer I would've given if I tried my best to destroy my electoral chances. Still, I think RP might be able to explain it away.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

I thought he had good people working for him now? Someone needs to get out with a clarifying statement right quick.

 

[Romulus]

This is a bunch of neocons trying to make hay out of this.... they don't like RP to begin with they can go support the O campaign.

That is officialy my answer to someone frothing at the mouth about RP didn't want to kill Osama!!!

Obama/Cheney 2012
War & Blowback Forever

 

[cornell]

Unfortunately this is being spun out of control, it's hit Fox News and other mainstream sites already.

As a RP supporter I can understand his principled approach, but 30-second soundbites from this will really hurt him, especially if it is happening at the same time as he announces his candidacy. He or someone from the campaign really needs to clarify this or issue an explanatory statement to nip it in the bud.

It also seems somewhat inconsistent with other things he has said, specifically with this being a vindication of his position that foreign aid is a poor investment.

 

[Eric21ND]

I agree this was a mistake. He should really consider the consequences of what he's saying.

He's also making himself seem ignorant. The "consensus" is that Pakistanis can't be fully trusted (whether that is true or not) and his answer is that he would basically rely on the Pakistani's.

How does this square with his original plan for Letters of Marque and Reprisal? He needs to differentiate himself from Obama while at the same time sounding sufficiently badass when answering this question.

Precisely! We failed to get OBL at Tora Bora because we outsourced the job to the Pakistanis, and with a wink and a nod they let him escape. Ron's answer no matter how you slice it sounds, either ignorant of the debacle at Tora Bora or pacifist in nature.

 

[Eric21ND]

Unfortunately this it it. Do a poll right now and find out how many americans believe pakistan didn't know OBL was there. The majority believe they knew including myself. Tell the pakistanis and they would have tipped him off. It contradicts the arguemnt that I have been using for RP's defence that he would have gone directly for those responsible for 911. Well aparently not!

Yup I know the feeling. I'm getting blasted on other message boards because I defended Ron so vehemently about his small elite force, special forces, or mark and reprisal approach.

Now I'm just like, well then...

 

[Eric21ND]

This is a bunch of neocons trying to make hay out of this.... they don't like RP to begin with they can go support the O campaign.

That is officialy my answer to someone frothing at the mouth about RP didn't want to kill Osama!!!

Obama/Cheney 2012
War & Blowback Forever

It's not just neocons, its ABC news, CBS, etc...

 

[JoshLowry]

He announces tomorrow. I'm sure this isn't coincidental timing.

 

[belian78]

I'm with him regardless. I supported him last time....i even drove across the country to see him at the debate in florida..... But he cannot win the republican primary now. At best, he can spread the message again...but i want to WIN. I still love him and i will still support him either way....but i acknowledge the political reality of what he said. I will be brought up in every debate and will be used to undermine him....and it will work. I do pray that Rand steps in.

GTFO then, good luck to ya. Seriously, someone that signed up in 07 and has under 70 posts saying 'oh I lubs me some Ron Paul but he can't win now'?... Forgive me if I'm not moved by this rock of a supporter.

 

[Eric21ND]

He announces tomorrow. I'm sure this isn't coincidental timing.

It stems from the WHO radio interview he did the other day in Des Moines no less. *Double face palm*

I don't know about you all, but this really let the wind out of my sail. We probably lost any chance of the nomination with this fumble.

 

[Romulus]

It stems from the WHO radio interview he did the other day in Des Moines no less. *Double face palm*

I don't know about you all, but this really let the wind out of my sail. We probably lost any chance of the nomination with this fumble.

I think you might be panicking.... RP has never endorsed a 'kill at will' policy that Obama is taking on. The MSM is finding something to make hay out of... Neocons are up in a tizzy.. nothing new..