RP said he wouldnt have had OBL killed?

You are a very strong believer in mainstream Bin Laden stories. You do know which country originally trained and armed his 'brave fighters' don't you?
I probably know more than you. Read "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll and catch up on your Michael Scheuer as well. Another good book is "Holy War Inc" by Peter Bergen.

Bin Laden was very much an independent operator.
 


According to Dick Cheney, Osama is NOT responsible for 9/11.

So, Ron's statement that you bolded holds water. No?

It has been a long time since I believed anything Cheney says. If RP doesn't believe OBL did it then why in the interview did he say he would have pakistan turn him over to us?
 
Knowing what 'we' know.America might be the least trustworthy country in the World right now?Sending people to war on lies.Torture.incarceration without trial.For an honest man like Paul,the jingoism doesn't ring true like it does to the mindless 'USA,USA!' chanters.The interviewer knew it and pressed the right buttons.Maybe America is ready for an honest man to be President?
I know exactly what RP was saying however if RP had any electoral sense he would never have played with the heroin term. Yes the MSM can spin it but RP made it damned easy for them. Time magazine this morning just made the comment this morning that the only thing that made the Republican debate stand out was RP saying we should legalized heroin.
This deal with OBL goes to the heart of RP's weakness. A hell of a lot of republicans have come over to RP's beliefs and were only holding off because of the belief that RP is not a decisive strong leader. This whole thing reinforces that image. Coordinate with Pakistan? Give me a break, Pakistan is about the least trusted country in the world right now. Almost nobody believes that if we had told Pakistan about OBL they would have turned him over to us or would not have warned him to get out of town.
 
It has been a long time since I believed anything Cheney says. If RP doesn't believe OBL did it then why in the interview did he say he would have pakistan turn him over to us?

Because Osama did commit crimes that had nothing to do with 9/11?
 
Ideas are very important to the shaping of society. In fact, they are more powerful than bombs or armies or guns. And this is because ideas are capable of spreading without limit. They are behind all the choices we make. They can transform the world in a way that governments and armies cannot. Fighting for liberty with ideas makes much more sense to me than fighting with guns or politics or political power. With ideas, we can make real change that lasts.

- Ron Paul

If anyone wants Ron to change the way he operates to make a run at the president, you're backing the wrong guy.
 
"Last week marked an important milestone in the war on terrorism for our country. Osama bin Laden applauded the 9/11 attacks. Such deliberate killing of innocent lives deserved retaliation. It is good that bin Laden is dead and justice is served. The way in which he was finally captured and killed shows that targeted retribution is far superior to wars of aggression and nation-building. In 2001 I supported giving the president the authority to pursue those responsible for the vicious 9/11 attacks. However, misusing that authority to pursue nation-building and remaking the Middle East was cynical and dangerous, as the past ten years have proven."
--Ron Paul

He should have stuck with that.
 
"Last week marked an important milestone in the war on terrorism for our country. Osama bin Laden applauded the 9/11 attacks. Such deliberate killing of innocent lives deserved retaliation. It is good that bin Laden is dead and justice is served. The way in which he was finally captured and killed shows that targeted retribution is far superior to wars of aggression and nation-building. In 2001 I supported giving the president the authority to pursue those responsible for the vicious 9/11 attacks. However, misusing that authority to pursue nation-building and remaking the Middle East was cynical and dangerous, as the past ten years have proven."
--Ron Paul

He should have stuck with that.

That was such a perfect statement. This is how I always defended him.
 
Watching Matt Collins' posting of Judge Napolitano.Obama should have asked Pakistan for Bin Laden and if they refused,declare war for the express purpose of seeking (not killing) him.I'm actually glad now that RP told the truth.Your country is a Republic.A country based on the rule of law.If a man like Paul becomes your President,the World will be a much better place for all of us.It would be the hope we all had for Obama realised and increased manifold.Also,I'm looking forward to them questioning him further!He won't back down and play for political purpose.When are we going to get a man like this in British politics!?He's like El Cid.

 
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"Last week marked an important milestone in the war on terrorism for our country. Osama bin Laden applauded the 9/11 attacks. Such deliberate killing of innocent lives deserved retaliation. It is good that bin Laden is dead and justice is served. The way in which he was finally captured and killed shows that targeted retribution is far superior to wars of aggression and nation-building. In 2001 I supported giving the president the authority to pursue those responsible for the vicious 9/11 attacks. However, misusing that authority to pursue nation-building and remaking the Middle East was cynical and dangerous, as the past ten years have proven."
--Ron Paul

He should have stuck with that.
That works as a general statement. Not as a direct answer to a question.
The only time Ron Paul doesn't directly answer a question is when he misunderstands a question.
 
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